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refuse_resist
2nd May 2005, 18:40
The West Is Rewriting History

By IRINA MALENKO

The recent ceremonies to mark the liberation of the Auschwitz extermination camp by the Soviet Red Army brought into sharp focus the nature of the Nazi genocide war machine. And as the people of Europe were preparing to mark this important event, we saw the offspring of British Royalty ruling class holding a party in which one of these infantile lay-abouts dressed up as a Nazi, wearing a swastika armband. Well, that sort of politics runs in that particular family.

Then, we had the German neo-Nazis running amok in Leipzig, Germany, while other neo-Nazis walked out in protest at the minute’s silence for those who died in the death camps. These actions brought revulsion and a demand that the wearing of Nazi Swastika armbands be made illegal.

Not to be outdone, the belly-crawling cronies of US imperialism in the European Parliament from the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Lithuania and Slovakia – demanded that the proposed ban be extended to cover all Communist symbols as well. It is remarkable that all of these countries either had strong fascist governments before the Second World War and greatly admired Hitler, or had very strong collaborationist forces that fought alongside the Nazis in fascism’s efforts to crush the Bolsheviks, the Red Army and smash the Soviet Union.

In May of this year, we will mark the 60th Anniversary of the defeat of fascism in Europe. Of course Western TV screens will be full of pictures of old films showing how the British and the Yanks really beat Hitler themselves. These are nothing but Hollywood dream-factory productions. Yes, the Western Allies eventually opened up the Second Front, but only when it was clear that the Soviet Union was not going to collapse. But the fact was that it was defeating German fascism itself, with great human losses and suffering.

Of course the West will have a string of Second World War veterans and experts being paraded at meetings, on TV screens, in the press, in order to play down the Soviet Union and the struggles on the Eastern Front. They will of course equate Hitler with Stalin as evil twins, with twin-ideologies. Much will be said about the German-Soviet Pact, but nothing about the Soviet-Czechoslovak agreement, nor, about the efforts of the Soviets to sign an anti-fascist pact with the British, which was turned down flat.

Once the Soviet Union and Stalin could not secure political agreement with the British and the French, in relation to the threat of fascism that the Western powers were building up and agitating Hitler to invade the USSR – the military priorities became dominant for the Soviet Union. That was the reason for the pact between the Soviet Union and Germany: it bought the necessary military time for the Soviet government to prepare for the attack, which Stalin foresaw coming.

To this day, together with all the myths perpetrated by the capitalist ruling class of Eastern Europe in order to cover their own tracks and the extent of their collaboration with the Nazis, the Soviet-German Pact has been dragged up over and over again. No doubt, the ultra-left will also carry forward these myths in their never-ending search for the "Never, never land" of the ideal socialism, the ideal revolution. That is all that it is, removed from the factual material world!

The ruling class might ban the symbol of the hammer and sickle, or the red flag, or posters of working-class heroes – but they will never bury the struggle for social justice, for national liberation, or for peace and socialism.

They can erase inconvenient facts from the history books, but they cannot ever erase the debt of gratitude the whole world owes the Soviet Union, its people and the Red Army!

The Soviet Union lost over 26,000,000 people in the Great Patriotic War of the total 50,000,000 people that were killed during the Second World War!

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redstar2000
3rd May 2005, 02:09
Originally posted by Irina Malenko
To this day, together with all the myths perpetrated by the capitalist ruling class of Eastern Europe in order to cover their own tracks and the extent of their collaboration with the Nazis, the Soviet-German Pact has been dragged up over and over again. No doubt, the ultra-left will also carry forward these myths in their never-ending search for the "Never, never land" of the ideal socialism, the ideal revolution. That is all that it is, removed from the factual material world!

She doesn't like "ultra-leftists", does she? :lol:

Well, let's look at the question. Suppose the USSR had flatly turned down a pact with Nazi Germany under any circumstances. What would have happened?

Would Hitler have invaded Poland in 1939 anyway?

We don't know, of course, but I think it would have certainly caused him to hesitate.

Meanwhile, the USSR would have had to move to a "war-footing" much sooner than it did...there would have been no room for the complacency of 1940-41 that led to the catastrophic defeats and losses during the first months of the German invasion.

It's commonly asserted by admirers of Stalin that his treaty with Nazi Germany was necessary to "buy time" for the USSR to "get ready". There's some truth to that, perhaps...it would be interesting to know exactly when the USSR began to move crucial industrial plants beyond the Urals and "out of reach" of any German invasion.

I think that Stalin's "plan" was based on the hope that the pact would keep the USSR out of the war altogether; the fascists and the bourgeois "democracies" would ruin each other and open the way for revolution in Europe...as nearly happened after World War I.

It was a vain hope; Hitler made it clear from the beginning of his career that the conquest of Russian territory and its resettlement by Germans was his major ambition. If Stalin ever believed for a second that Hitler had abandoned this goal, he was guilty of extraordinary foolishness.

The lack of military preparedness in the face of the German invasion suggests, in fact, that Stalin was foolish...even though he received repeated warnings right up to the invasion itself.

"Ultra-lefts" who criticized the 1939 Stalin-Hitler pact were probably right!

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Jersey Devil
3rd May 2005, 02:43
Indeed, the Soviet non-aggression pact was a foolish move by Stalin.


Hitler made it clear from the beginning of his career that the conquest of Russian territory and its resettlement by Germans was his major ambition.

A quote by Hitler in his book "Mien Kampf" on Lebensraum "living space".

"If we speak today about gaining territory in Europe, we think primarily of Russia and its border states."

Can't get any clearer then that.

Furthermore, its not like Hitler actually respected treaties and international agreements. His entire base of supporters came from those who opposed the Treaty of Versallies and in power he broke with the Treaty. He also did not respect the elections of the Austrians on the question of annexation and more importantly with his invasion of Czechoslovakia he broke with the Munich Agreement that gave the Germans the Sudetenland. How Stalin deluded himself into believing that the Germans, who have then proven to have no respect for international law, would not attack the Soviet Union was indeed a 'foolish' move.

viva le revolution
3rd May 2005, 22:27
I would not judge Stalin's intellgence so soon. He had grounds for believing that Hitler may have been sincere with the peace talks, given the previous connections between the two countries. From 1921 , the germans secretly trained the Russian army in return for for being allowed to use Soviet armaments and arms with which German soldiers could manoevre in Russia, free from prying allied eyes, and in direct contravention of the Versailles treaty.
Hammerstein and Niedermayer were two senior German officers who set up a German mission in Moscow at this time.
The German military command was split up between "easterners" and "westerners"The easterners including Niedermayer and others who were gaining increasing support sought an alliance with Soviet Russia. This was the eastern's approach to the dilemma of being in the centre of Europe and fearing Bismarck's nightmare of a war on two fronts.
Officer's such as Witzelben and Von Stulpnagel consisted of the "westerners" who opposed any deal with soviet Russia.
At this time it was also rumoured that Neidermayer along with a few german officers had turned communist.
However dispite the diplomatic and military relationships in the past, Hitler broke off the Russian connection and Neidermayer left the german mission in moscow and returned to Germany in 1933.
Given the past relationship, it does not seem stupid that Stalin expected the german's were sincere. However it is probable that Stalin was also buying time. both sound pretty probable.

viva le revolution
4th May 2005, 21:25
Another scenario in my opinion was that during this time there was a plot to assasinate Hitler by admiral Canaris and other Eastern-linked senior german officers who favoured an alliance with soviet russia. Maybe the proposed non-aggression pact was viewed by Stalin as an insurance policy in case the plot failed, which it did.