Math against Capitalism

[Livetrueordie]

Hey, i was trying to convince one of my friends the drastic difference between capitalisms classes and got way to involved. if anything looks wrong tell me.
The star* is where the math really comes in, and even i was surprised.



alright look at it this way
the country is 100 people and theres 100$ between all of them, 80% of the Money is controlled by the top10% of the pop,
so 10 People have 80$ among them,
Then theres a middle class like doctors and such They are about 30% of the people and they have 10% of the money,
Last theres the lower class 60% They own the remain 10% among them.

Thats:
10People with $80
>$8 Each
30People With $10
>$.33 Each
60People With $10
>$.16 Each

One man can't possibly do 7.84$ Worth more work in the same amount of working time, no matter how hard they work.
$8 / $.16 = 50
^The capitalist get 50 times more money then the lower class.
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So if u have a worker that makes $30,000 a year
-A worker has to work 5825.24 hours at minimum wage to get this, 242.71 Full days of work,34.67 Full weeks, 66% of a year, while 24.6% of their life is spent sleeping (6 Hours a night; 7-9 hours is suggested) giveing them 9.4% of the year to eat and have a regular life, 34.31 days. Not mentioning commuting time.(Which the averagre is 28 minutes) this is 9.43 days a year, this is considering they work those continuous days, which they do not, so this will be even more. GRAND TOTAL: 24.87 Days a year to eat, live a life, and groom themeselves for work ie. showering :-) -

And The capitalist makes $1,500,000 a year
-A capitalist Has to work 122.88 hours to make $30,000 , 5.12 full days, not even one full week, 1% of the year

[Colombia]

You are right on the math but I doubt your friend really cares about the numbers!

[marxist_socialist_aussie]

true, they will probably simply argue that some work is worth more than other work. I get that answer a lot when I try to use explanations such as the one you have above. Still, for all of us who get the message, it is good to have it in a logical explanation. Good work dude, just a pitty others barely ever listen.

[bolshevik butcher]

I think that's an amazing calculation. It gives us more legitamacy though, even if people don't care about the exact figures.

[bezdomni]

Marx wrote something similar in Capital. Read the chapters on Surplus Value and MCM / CMC.

[ComradeRed]

That's good math, however it is slightly flawed. It assumes there is no change, that every capitalist profits an equal amount from money that falls out of the sky (a deus ex mechina if you will). There is a given amount of money in society, and to change it would cause inflation at a rate (I postulate) of the change of money over the new sum of money (e.g. if 5000 dollars are in circulation, but 50 is added then the value of a dollar inflates byt 50/5000 or 1%).

Further, you also have to think about capital. It needs repair, replacement, etc. This fluctuates the employment.

Speaking of employment, this model assumes that wages is a constant. Yet in order for this model to work more money needs to be issued. This in turn causes inflation, which causes an increase in wages (so that the workers can purchase goods and the capitalist can yield a profit). This model needs tending to, but it is interesting nonetheless.

[Super Mario Conspiracy]

But what about weekends, or vacation and such?

Anyway, socialism dominates over capitalism in all areas.

[OleMarxco]

Capitalism is an evil spiral, and that fact must be exposed! It goes endlessly in a circle that increases consumption with each turn, thus ending with an implosion! We -MUST- rally quickly and charge for socialistic revolution! :angry:

[Livetrueordie]

alright ill try to add inflation rate into my equation, what would you say the average rate is... Like 2.3% The rate for last year was around 3.0% maybe ill use that.