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Donnie
24th April 2005, 18:27
Land and freedom is the best film ive seen it protrays what happened in the spanish civil war. Here is the basic idea of what happens in the film:


The film begins in the present: a young woman in Liverpool discovers after her grandfather's death that he fought as a volunteer in the Spanish Civil War. The film transports us back to 1936. We see what befalls David (Ian Hart), a young unemployed worker and British Communist Party member, as he sets off for Spain and joins the fighting.

More or less accidentally, David ends up in a detachment loyal to the leftist POUM. After a number of experiences with this unit, including the seizure of a town from the fascists, he receives a wound and is sent to Barcelona for treatment.

The POUM militia, as well as other forces who retain their independence from the Communist Party Stalinists, have been increasingly deprived of weapons by the authorities. Once in Barcelona David succumbs to political pressure and signs up with the Stalinists' International Brigade.

The next sequences take place during the May Days in 1937, a working class uprising in Barcelona against the popular front regime. David sees for himself that the republican government and its Communist Party allies are defending the capitalist status quo. He tears up his party card and heads off to rejoin his old comrades.

After a battle in which POUM forces, desperately short of supplies, defeat the fascists, units of the republican army arrive to arrest the POUM leaders and disperse the militia. David returns to England. A voice-over explains that the Spanish revolution could have been won but for Stalinism and that such a victory would have changed the course of the twentieth century.

The film concludes in the present with the old man's funeral. His granddaughter makes a short speech in which she explains her faith in the struggle for socialism.


Its got your typical Anarchist vs Marxist querrels.
One of my favourite parts of the film is when all the Communists in the POUM decide that the POUM should join the republican army and defeat fascism that way. But the Anarchists in the POUM say that if the the POUM joins the army the POUM will loose its revolutionary heart. Inevitably the Anarchist manage to get one over on the Communists and so they don't join the army.

Anyway another great scene is where the POUM have just taken over a village. Once the village has been taken over the Anarchists start a meeting on how to collectivise the land. Its a great example of Anarchist theories put in practice. :)

The Grapes of Wrath
24th April 2005, 19:07
Dude, fabulous film!

I've been trying for years to get that on video or DVD or something. Any idea how to? I think they are all out of print or something, which is a shame because it is a fabulous film.

The war is very tragic and heartbreaking and the film does a great job of showing that. I also think they do a very good job of portraying the war, even though I think they had a budget of about 2 million dollars, which is beans.


Anyway another great scene is where the POUM have just taken over a village. Once the village has been taken over the Anarchists start a meeting on how to collectivise the land. Its a great example of Anarchist theories put in practice.

Well, the POUM were not Anarchists. The woman in the film is supposed to portray an Anarchist fighting in the POUM militia. The village decisions were made by the peasants of it, and were not interfered with by the POUM militia in the movie.

The film was greatly influenced by George Orwell's "Homage to Catalonia," especially the "May Days" infighting in Barcelona. The book itself is a great, and I highly recommend reading it.

Another good one is Antony Beevor's "The Spanish Civil War." He does a pretty good job of describing the whole war and all the factional problems during it.

In conclusion, great film. One of my favorites.

TGOW

Non-Sectarian Bastard!
14th June 2005, 21:22
Just saw it, it absolutly blew me away. Loved every second of it, especially when David realized what an absolutly scum the communist party is and teared his CP card apart. A very "touching" moment was when the CP was disarming the POUM and then they shot the girl. Anyway a tip: go to torrentspy.com and search on "Land and Freedom".

A great quote from the movie. After they liberated the town, the discussion on collectivizing the farmlands turns into a general discussion on reform/toning down radicalism to attract support from capitalist countries.

"Who are you trying to appease? Foreign governments? Foreign bankers? What is a revolution? It's nothing other then a radical change in privilege, wealth and power. What's going to happen, what . . the only way we'll appease these people when the ideas are dilluted and watered down till they mean absolutly nothing. Now I think you are dead right when you say we must look beyond this village and must look at what is happening outside. Okay, but not only to foreign bankers and governments. What we must look to as well is that outside these windows, as we speak, on this land are two million landless peasants. From the day they were born they had absolutly no hope other then a life of misery and unless we harness that energy now. The ideas will be dead, there'ill be no change and this will all be in vain. Ideas are the basis of this."