University or College/Major/Future

[Jersey Devil]

Indeed. Figured I'd make this thread to get some insight on posters.

Mine....

Uni- Going into my sophmore year at Rutgers University-New Brunswick. Taking summer courses as well, trying to get done as fast as possible.

Major- Undecided, though, I'll most likely major in either economics or finance, leaning towards economics.

Future- Would like to either go to law school or possibly to graduate school to get my master's/doctrine in economics. Surpass Milton Friedman as greatest Rutgers alumni.

[Aurora(inactive)]

I'm going to a community college here. I graduate May 20th, from there I am trying to find a full time job in radio or t.v broadcasting.

My major is communitcations with emphasis in broadcasting.

Future - I would like to own my own radio station.

[OleMarxco]

I have: Society-teaching (badly translated), and English as majors. Currently, I am guesting the school's resident house radio, and even 'tho I have no official voluntary subject, or whatever, I will have that as next year. Then I will go Company Economics (still, directly translated) to "get an insight on the enemy", sort of, i.e., the capitalists, and Media. I will top of it all off with joining a student corporation (shudder), and have in Jus/Laws and Chemistry. Then I will do two years of some job-related class (Probably construction), and I'm done. Meanwhile all this, I'll take some odd jobs here and there, perhaps as a layout-maker, fruit distrubutor, and journalist. Then, I'm aiming for politics, doing a bit beside of musical carriere. Also, I'm learning to do a guitar. 'Sides having homepage making knowledge, this shouldn't be too bad? So I'll take up mathematics at a privatist and educate as a sivil ingenior, which it's a bit lack of in Norway, heh, I 'spose. In secondary school I starred in the low-budget horror-movie, "Bosatt Ondskap" (http://www.BosattOndskap.tk) (translatable to "Resident Evil", ironically enough) and acted as a deranged psychologist at a school play. Heh, and I used to be a rapper I renember...HAH! Those times kicked ass, our schools are very creative.....

Or maybe not....I could probably just drop school ;)

[NovelGentry]

I have an associates degree in computer information systems and I'll be going back to school to Major in English. I'm hoping to become a teacher or part of a non-profit organization teaching underpriveledged kids and writing books on the side. I'd also maybe one day like to retire into freelance/independent journalism so I can travel and bring some things that really matter to public attention (or at least try).

[Wolnosc-Solidarnosc]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 04:55 PM
I have an associates degree in computer information systems and I'll be going back to school to Major in English. I'm hoping to become a teacher or part of a non-profit organization teaching underpriveledged kids and writing books on the side. I'd also maybe one day like to retire into freelance/independent journalism so I can travel and bring some things that really matter to public attention (or at least try).
A teacher in the American public school system? :blink:

[NovelGentry]

A teacher in the American public school system?

A teacher wherever I'm qualified to teach. But yes, I'd like to teach high school students. Run away, the reds are infiltrating your schools.

[Wolnosc-Solidarnosc]

Inflitrate? You'll have a curriculum to follow that you can't really stray from. I just found your decision to teach in the public school system interesting, considering that so many of you see it as but a tool to "brainwash" kids.

You should also be prepared for those disgruntled angst-filled teenage students to come here and grumble about how they're "learning nothing" in their english class. :P

[t_wolves_fan]

Bachelor of Arts, Political Science and International Relations

Masters, Public Administration (conentration: public policy)

Just got offered a job today by the Office of Management and Budget

Future: Governor of a midwestern state.

[Aurora(inactive)]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 11:25 AM
Run away, the reds are infiltrating your schools.
ahh tap the phone lines! :lol:

[NovelGentry]

I just found your decision to teach in the public school system interesting, considering that so many of you see it as but a tool to "brainwash" kids.

Read what you said again.... then maybe you'll understand.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Still it wouldn't work. There are tight teaching schedules and compulsory stuff that you need to teach them. If you don't teach them that stuff, they will fail their tests and you will be fired.

[Jersey Devil]

Only way I would ever consider being a teacher would be as a college professor but teaching high school would really be bad in my opinion. 75% kids do give a damn about education.

[NovelGentry]

Still it wouldn't work. There are tight teaching schedules and compulsory stuff that you need to teach them. If you don't teach them that stuff, they will fail their tests and you will be fired.

I'm well aware of the designed curriculum, this doesn't mean you don't have any free range. A teacher in my area (current events teacher) asked kids to focus on the Iraqi Prison Abuse. Came pretty close to losing his job, but eventually pulled through. Although I think he lost that class. English is a good field, lots of free range writing. And you can always talk to students outside of the curriculum. It's a dangerous path to walk down, and I don't suspect I'll be seen as acceptable in the eyes of any school administration, but in general you can make the more subtle points, bring up free topic essays or even develop some of your own things. It's different in literature coarses where there are still "banned books" -- but even those are frequently subverted.

No doubt I'll take heat, and little doubt I'll see parent, student, and administrative opposition - but there is not a 24 hour eye, nor is it as restrictive as many people think it is.

[Jersey Devil]

Trying to indoctrinate your beliefs to kids is unethical, regardless of what political beliefs you hold.

[NovelGentry]

Trying to indoctrinate your beliefs to kids is unethical, regardless of what political beliefs you hold.

Did I say anything about idoctrinating? How bout just making the truth clear. Telling kids in a current events class to write up opinions on a very real and very true current event (referring to the teacher who came under shit cause of the prison abuse) is not indoctrination -- it's teaching. Furthermore, it's teaching kids about the way the world really is, rather than hiding them away and keeping to "safe topics."

I plan to make kids aware and hopefully conscious of the real world. Which side of the fence they decide to sit on is up to them. "Write about how communism is great" is not valid, but "Write about the current US political environment" is. Hopefully by becoming a teacher I can TEACH.

[Jersey Devil]

The "truth" can be manipulated by the assignments you give them. Let's say you do give them that assignment regarding the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. Would you also give them an assignment regarding the fact that the previous Ba'athist government used the prison for widespread torture?

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

University: Just finished a year at Concordia - may switch to Saint Mary's University for financial reasons.

Major: History. May switch to Irish Studies.


Future: I see three realistic posibilities.

1) Flunking out of college and working low-pay labourer's jobs, until election to Parliament as an MP for the New Democratic Party. ;)

2) Completing my BA, doing an intensive 10-Month BEd program, and becoming a high school teacher.

3) Jesuit.

[NovelGentry]

The "truth" can be manipulated by the assignments you give them. Let's say you do give them that assignment regarding the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. Would you also give them an assignment regarding the fact that the previous Ba'athist government used the prison for widespread torture?

What does this resolve? Are you trying to justify the acts of the US because this is what happened before? Imagine this happened in WWII "Oh look, Nazi gas chambers... well, might as well put them to good use."

Giving such an assignment doesn't manipulate the truth, it asks them to interpret what they feel the truth is.

There IS indoctrination which happens in our current schools, and it comes in the form of dumbing kids down the best they can, giving them as little rights as possible, and really allowing the social pecking order which does form to form, because that "prepares them for the future."

Again, all I plan to do is present students with what it out there. What they come up with, or what they decide is not something I can take into the equation. If one kid writes a paper and justifies the US tortue based on the previous example I might laugh, and really question his sanity, but either way, I'm just grading papers.

My point is that I can present them with assignments that make them think -- not make them think a certain way. The point of giving them a paper on such a topic would be to have them research it, and make a determination. That was the point of Mr. Newark (a teacher, who I myself had in school.. the very same one who nearly lost his job). He wanted kids to form an opinion on it, in fact, that was the exact assignment. If you feel it's "no big deal, and the right people are getting punshed" -- then that would be your response to the assignment. If you feel this is repreentative of US imperialism and our holier than thou attitude, that would be your response. Either way, guaging the response is not particularly what an English teacher would do, more the quality of the response.

Much like presenting kids with literature and having them decide for themselves. No administration or parent would probably have much of an issue with Orwell's 1984 if I wrote "Communism is Evil" before presenting it and tell them to write about why it's evil. That's "safe" and "ok" -- But the minute I present Homage to Catalonia and ask them to formulate Orwell's overall points and ideas into either a supporting essay or a critical essay of communism -- then they start to worry.

Personally I think the latter assignment would have a lot more credibility and would be a much more interesting assignment. I'm not sure I can consider this indoctrination.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by Jersey [email protected] 21 2005, 10:22 PM
Trying to indoctrinate your beliefs to kids is unethical, regardless of what political beliefs you hold.
No forcing people to take on certain believes or withholding them from different views would be indoctrination. Introducing kids to political and economical alternatives to the status quo gives them a lot to think about. Provoking thought is above all no indoctrination.

Interesting example: Abu Graihb. Why would Gent not tell them that Saddam used the same prison for torture? Afterall Saddam's regime was still a capitalist regime and for many years a close ally of the US and capitalist nations in general.

[Wolnosc-Solidarnosc]

To answer the original question of the thread..

I'm doing a double major in history and political science. I'm technically enrolled in a french language minor but that is being cancelled after this year. If my marks stay where they are I'll give law school a shot. Since I probably won't be able to afford that, I'd like to continue doing something in history, whether it be contunuing my education or teaching.

[EneME]

Uni- A Senior at a state university

Major- Have had many majors, but I'm a Sociology major with a concentration in Social Services

Future- Social Worker...help the disadvantaged community with my strengths and abilities..

[OleMarxco]

Z'hat is very noble :D

[Jersey Devil]

I'm about to take 12 credits over the summer at RU. Trying to finish as fast as I can. So far for my freshman year a 4.0 expected to drop to maybe a 3.8 after this semester. Just wondering, have any of you guys taken the LSAT? And if you did, what did you get on it?

[EneME]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 12:38 PM
Z'hat is very noble :D
Thanks... :D

[truthaddict11]

The plan is to be a film major with a concentration in cinematography

[Jersey Devil]

From a pragmatic point of view I really can not see why you would do that. In all honesty, I do not see what you can do with that type of major.

[truthaddict11]

film television and movies or maybe do editing it will depend once I start production classes. But film school is a risky (and expensive) investment. heres hoping it pays off.

my brother is planning to major in Poli Sci from YALE , and then perhaps Yale Law, right now he is thinking of becoming a Policital Analysist something like that

[Wolnosc-Solidarnosc]

Hey man I took a film class in my first year... that stuff is sweet!

On the subject of film, I was wondering if anyone else here is familiar with marxist film theory (known as the radical text)?

[RedCeltic]

I have my BA in Anthropology (Minor- History) However I'm considering going into an MSW program (Master's of Social Work) ... or an excelerated one year nursing BS degree for people with a BS or BA & overall GPA over 3.0

I currently work with the Developmentally disabled. (Mental Retardation)

[Cooler Reds Will Prevail]

University: Freshman @ Fordham University, might transfer to somewhere in the University of California system... This school is a lil too Catholic/Materialist for me.

Major: Political Science or International Political Economy with a minor in either Sociology or Latin American Studies (Basically, I'm undeclared)

Future: Unionizer, Teacher, Sociologist, who knows........

[EneME]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 04:49 AM
I have my BA in Anthropology (Minor- History) However I'm considering going into an MSW program (Master's of Social Work) ... or an excelerated one year nursing BS degree for people with a BS or BA & overall GPA over 3.0

I currently work with the Developmentally disabled. (Mental Retardation)
I'm starting the MSW program this fall :D We would have stuff to ***** about together! ;)

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Hmmm, from reading these post, basically the only one here who has had any hands on experience with public budgets and management is a CAPATILIST.

[EneME]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 04:23 AM
Hmmm, from reading these post, basically the only one here who has had any hands on experience with public budgets and management is a CAPATILIST.
who can't spell "capitalist" but whatever...sorry, but I believe most of us are more concerned with humanity and social justice rather than budgets and our own self importance...

[Maynard]

Bachelor of Economics
University of New England (Australia)
Future: Hopefully, at least Moving to Europe (Denmark), continue schooling at the University of Århus and looking for some sort of a suitable job.

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by EneME+May 3 2005, 04:39 AM--> (EneME @ May 3 2005, 04:39 AM)
[email protected] 3 2005, 04:23 AM
Hmmm, from reading these post, basically the only one here who has had any hands on experience with public budgets and management is a CAPATILIST.
who can't spell "capitalist" but whatever...sorry, but I believe most of us are more concerned with humanity and social justice rather than budgets and our own self importance... [/b]
Those are really poor qualifications to decide public policy, manage resources, and direct manpower.

[rice349]

Hmmm, from reading these post, basically the only one here who has had any hands on experience with public budgets and management is a CAPATILIST

University: SUNY Binghamton, graduation with Bachelors in Dec.2005, then transferring to Boalt School of Law at UC Berkeley.

Major: Political Science/Political Economy/History

*i'm a marxist-leninist specializing in history, politico-macro economics, public administration, and overall political science.

[EneME]

Originally posted by ahhh_money_is_comfort+May 3 2005, 01:53 PM--> (ahhh_money_is_comfort @ May 3 2005, 01:53 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 04:39 AM

[email protected] 3 2005, 04:23 AM
Hmmm, from reading these post, basically the only one here who has had any hands on experience with public budgets and management is a CAPATILIST.
who can't spell "capitalist" but whatever...sorry, but I believe most of us are more concerned with humanity and social justice rather than budgets and our own self importance...
Those are really poor qualifications to decide public policy, manage resources, and direct manpower. [/b]
It might be crazy to you, but I'm not looking for power or to "decide public policy, manage resources, and direct manpower". I'm actually in it for the one on one assessments, crisis intervention, and case management, which I am doing now...wait for it, wait for it....for NO MONEY!! OH THE HUMANITY!! :lol: For me, hands on work, and being in the grit and grime of it is the most beautiful aspect...I don't want to look DOWN at those who do the most heroic work of all... :P

[encephalon]

Hmmm, from reading these post, basically the only one here who has had any hands on experience with public budgets and management is a CAPATILIST.

so THAT'S why people are starving! :D Now I understand things much clearer.

Oh yeah.. BA History, BA English. So I'll be poor no matter what I do.

[t_wolves_fan]

Originally posted by EneME+May 4 2005, 02:12 AM--> (EneME @ May 4 2005, 02:12 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 04:39 AM

[email protected] 3 2005, 04:23 AM
Hmmm, from reading these post, basically the only one here who has had any hands on experience with public budgets and management is a CAPATILIST.
who can't spell "capitalist" but whatever...sorry, but I believe most of us are more concerned with humanity and social justice rather than budgets and our own self importance...
Those are really poor qualifications to decide public policy, manage resources, and direct manpower.
It might be crazy to you, but I'm not looking for power or to "decide public policy, manage resources, and direct manpower". I'm actually in it for the one on one assessments, crisis intervention, and case management, which I am doing now...wait for it, wait for it....for NO MONEY!! OH THE HUMANITY!! :lol: For me, hands on work, and being in the grit and grime of it is the most beautiful aspect...I don't want to look DOWN at those who do the most heroic work of all... :P [/b]
Your choice of career is very admirable.

However, two points:

1>The money and resources that you will use to help people is not infinite. Because it is used to help them, it cannot be used for other valuable purposes. This is the importance and the value of creating budgets and using resources wisely.

2>Your choice of career and your reasons for it refute many of the assumptions made by the anti-capitalists on this board. They've claimed that in capitalism, everyone strives to make as much money as possible and if they don't make money they're so miserable they may as well be dead. You as an American are choosing a career and lifestyle that says money, status, and material wealth are unimportant to you. Hence, capitalism does not require nor drive everyone to seek maximum material gain.

Good luck helping those people, many truly need it. What you are planning to do is very valiant. The unfortunate thing is that so many people take advantage of the services you are going to provide without making changes to their lifestyles, which eventually leads a lot of social workers to "burn out".

[EneME]

Your choice of career is very admirable.
Thank you, it's my calling..


1>The money and resources that you will use to help people is not infinite. Because it is used to help them, it cannot be used for other valuable purposes. This is the importance and the value of creating budgets and using resources wisely.
I agree...thats the biggest challenge I have NOW. We have very limited resources as it is, and we're still always the first to get cut when faced with a budget crisis. I live in California, and in the past year, the Center I work at has had their budget completely gutted by about 75%. We don't even have enough to USE them wisely. We have gone from not having internet accessibility, and older computers...to not being sure if we can pay rent after July. We believe that clients are valuable purposes...thats why we do all we can to help them.



2>Your choice of career and your reasons for it refute many of the assumptions made by the anti-capitalists on this board. They've claimed that in capitalism, everyone strives to make as much money as possible and if they don't make money they're so miserable they may as well be dead. You as an American are choosing a career and lifestyle that says money, status, and material wealth are unimportant to you. Hence, capitalism does not require nor drive everyone to seek maximum material gain.

My choice of career is what it is because of my anti-capitalism stance. As much as you may want to believe that anti-capitalists are just these militant authoritarians, most of us actually are leftists out of heart and love for humanity. True leftists don't live for themselves, we are self-less. I am an American by default, but I'm actually the product of U$ violence, and I intend to help those oppressed right in the belly of the beast. Capitalism DOES feed greed, and having felt that monster eat my family alive is what really has led me on this path. Sorry to burst your bubble...


Good luck helping those people, many truly need it. What you are planning to do is very valiant. The unfortunate thing is that so many people take advantage of the services you are going to provide without making changes to their lifestyles, which eventually leads a lot of social workers to "burn out".
Thanks, I'll need that luck. For one, I much rather be exploited by the lower-class than by some CEO millionaire. Secondly, I am aware of the "burn out" rate of social workers, but since I come from the third world: I have lived in terrible poverty (here and in central america), I have seen war and death, and I have been basically a social worker for my immigrated family all my life....I think I can handle it. Plus, I have revolutionary roots....struggle runs in my family. ;)

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by EneME+May 4 2005, 02:12 AM--> (EneME @ May 4 2005, 02:12 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 04:39 AM

[email protected] 3 2005, 04:23 AM
Hmmm, from reading these post, basically the only one here who has had any hands on experience with public budgets and management is a CAPATILIST.
who can't spell "capitalist" but whatever...sorry, but I believe most of us are more concerned with humanity and social justice rather than budgets and our own self importance...
Those are really poor qualifications to decide public policy, manage resources, and direct manpower.
It might be crazy to you, but I'm not looking for power or to "decide public policy, manage resources, and direct manpower". I'm actually in it for the one on one assessments, crisis intervention, and case management, which I am doing now...wait for it, wait for it....for NO MONEY!! OH THE HUMANITY!! :lol: For me, hands on work, and being in the grit and grime of it is the most beautiful aspect...I don't want to look DOWN at those who do the most heroic work of all... :P [/b]
Oh, sorry for my confusion. That is quite noble and your quite qualified to do that.

Then there are the other communist here with similiar qualifications. Would you trust yourself to manage and direct manpower and resources an a national or global scale? I know I'm not qualified to that.

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 02:29 AM

Hmmm, from reading these post, basically the only one here who has had any hands on experience with public budgets and management is a CAPATILIST.

so THAT'S why people are starving! :D Now I understand things much clearer.

Oh yeah.. BA History, BA English. So I'll be poor no matter what I do.
Have you ever been inside a factory?

Understand production and manufacturing?

Manage or lead groups of people in manufacturing?

I think these are very central concepts to communism that someone needs to understand if they are going to weigh the benefits of world wide economy.

[KrazyRabidSheep]

I've got four (out of eight) ASE certifications for autos and all four ASE certifications for diesel and over 24 months of schooling at Lincoln Tech. for automotive repair (plus over 2 more years at a junior college for various extra classes taken at the same time). . .

I've abandoned that career path. . .the pay is great, but it's not worth it (for me. . .I'm not a gearhead)

I'm now enrolled in the local jr. college in the Radiological Tech. program: in another two trimesters (not including the summer which starts next week), I'll have an EMT and a Radiology degree. . .if I stay on another trimester, I can get a RN (all the pre-reqs are the same)

If I'm a tad lucky, the hospitol I'm working at now will pay for me to go BACK to college (a real one) to combine my two skills (mechanics and medical) so I could train to be a medical equipment technician

[t_wolves_fan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 03:37 PM

Hmmm, from reading these post, basically the only one here who has had any hands on experience with public budgets and management is a CAPATILIST

University: SUNY Binghamton, graduation with Bachelors in Dec.2005, then transferring to Boalt School of Law at UC Berkeley.

Major: Political Science/Political Economy/History

*i'm a marxist-leninist specializing in history, politico-macro economics, public administration, and overall political science.
A college actually saw fit admit you?

Guess they really are hard up for money.

[STI]

If you want to add something serious to the discussion, feel free. This is just garbage, though. One joke once in a while is fine, but that's not even funny. Grow up.

[Morpheus]

I was a history major in college.