Land/Shelter Distribution

[Cooler Reds Will Prevail]

Let's say that the United States is starting to cool off from a huge Communist rebellion supported by 95% of the population (this won't happen any time in the near future, but be creative). The new Socialist government, in an attempt to close the gap between rich and poor, takes a look at the housing throughout the country and realizes that some live in houses that are 3000 sq. ft., others live in houses that are 1000... In the cities, some live in apartments that are large with many rooms with a/c and carpeting, others live in rat infested studios. How would the government redistribute this housing to make it fair and equal without having to raze ridiculous amounts of houses and apartment buildings?

[Roses in the Hospital]

Those living on their own would get the smaller places, those with families the bigger places and so on. The ridiculously big houses would either be converted into several smaller dwellings or used for some other productive purpose. It's simple really...

[OleMarxco]

And some houses might even be used for governmential purposes, SO THAT ;)

In fact, alot of people I think do would agree with what a Communist thinks aslong as you go on withouth mentioning the word "Communism" or "Communistic" or "Communist". So 95% I think is not to over-estimate: Who -WOULDN'T- want an fair and equal society. Just ask them, and YOU bet how many would say yes. The last 5% is? THE BURGEOUIS, OF COURSE. 'Cuz THEY don't and won't highly probably not profit on it, but SO WHAT!? FUCK THEM.

[RASH chris]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 03:57 PM
And some houses might even be used for governmential purposes, SO THAT ;)

In fact, alot of people I think do would agree with what a Communist thinks aslong as you go on withouth mentioning the word "Communism" or "Communistic" or "Communist". So 95% I think is not to over-estimate: Who -WOULDN'T- want an fair and equal society. Just ask them, and YOU bet how many would say yes. The last 5% is? THE BURGEOUIS, OF COURSE. 'Cuz THEY don't and won't highly probably not profit on it, but SO WHAT!? FUCK THEM.
I beg to differ. It is not just the upper crust and rich of our society that don't want equality. Much of the middle class and upper working class are opposed to the notion of a totally equal soceity. They really buy into the notion that "anybody can make it if they work hard enough".

Not to say this can't be overcome. But this leads back to the fact that here in the states, since the 60's the left has become associated with "protest politics" as opposed to labor. Before the 60's the left used to be strictly associated with labor. Look around at the next protest you go to. See who is waving the red flags or who is covered in black masks. It's mostly kids. The only radical union left is the IWW, and they are very weak, compared to what they were in the 20's and 30's.

I've kind of lost my train of thought, but, yeah.

[Social Greenman]

I bet a lot more American were class conscious before the 60's and thought along in industrial lines. The Capitalist still think in industrial lines and markets and not so much politically because the U.S. government insures their interest. That is all I am going to say about that.

Regarding property: I've already been through that discussion and when it comes to land and dwellings there was no easy conclusions. People want their personal space. It may be large or small which depends on the individual and/or families. I consider dwelling with land as personal property while I consider the land where the means of production are located to be private property of the capitalist class. If the capitalist class has personal property I have no problem with them keeping it or anyone else keeping what they have. Perhaps there will be some sort of land distribution in which dwelling can be built upon land. However, you got people who live in apartments in large cities and small and what is the criteria for them? If anyone thinks its a simple task then they better think about what effect it will have on people in general and how they feel. If you think you can bark orders and move people from one place to another or compact them in apartments then those people will start believing that they had it better under capitalism. Better think long and hard about this.

Social

[guerillablack]

But what about the projects and urban areas, that have horrible housing. Will those be torn down?