how are "communist countries"

[{GR}Raine]

How was/are…
Russia?
Cuba?
China?
Vietnam?
North Korea?
Not communist countries.

[OleMarxco]

Simple time.
Russia = A "newbie" to the industralized age toying with the ideas of Communism but only to a "pseudo" degree enough to be an excuse to wage "big brother" control over the industry.
Cuba = A slightly more moderate and idealistic country with great emphasis on healthcare but nevertheless still sort of a socialistic banana republic clinging to Fidel "the state is me" Castro-despotism. Called a "nice" dictatorship by ignorants.
China = Nationalism under the fur of leftist ideology - Has been very anti-Capitalistic in the offensive phase (especially against drug dealers) but has become just as capitalistic...and authitorian themselves. Although strong on socialism just taking peasants instead of the proletar (they're comin' straight from the feudal times) and you got'em.
North Korea = A country based on planned economics and a caiser flirting with his wet dreams of communism...and conspiracy theories of the burgeouis? While most are true, yes, he's are not....he split the country only to forge his police state empire of his wannabe-commie wet dream.
Vietnam = "Cleansed" by Pol Pot Red Khmer, not unlike the Nazies raze-cleansing only class-cleansing, aimed at anything alike capitalists. Farms merged, people collectivised into long-houses and foraging food is forbidden. Desperate to prevent any form of private properity, like not only marketing-like stuff or properity of things that should be shared, but insignificant things like if you have a comb they will take it to "share" it with the others and shoot your cows ;)

[{GR}Raine]

nice reply! thank you, that helped a bit. Im doing a school debate, so im sure theyll bring up how "horrid" these once-tried communist countries failed, so i was just needing the simple reasons on what makes all those countries non-communsit. Anything else to add to Ole's would be appreciated.

[GoaRedStar]

what makes all these countries non communist is the fact that each has a state.

a communist society is a stateless society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

[Zingu]

This might also help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_conflict


If they are any smart; they'll ask how Socialism will transition into Communism; you better be prepared for that.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Most of the countries in question hardly even reflect any coherent understanding of socialism - meaningful control is not (or has not been) in the hands of the working class. At best, they represent "a good stab at it" that was able to cast off the shackles of neo-/colonial control, but lacked the material base for socialism (e.g. Cuba), and at worst . . . well, let's face it, private property is enshrined in China's current constitution.

[OleMarxco]

Like f.eg China claims to be communistic, but denies totally that properity is non-existant and shared (Sounds a bit contradicting, now doesn't it? It has to exist to be shared, but in a PERSONAL-properity kind of way) under Communism, yet they execute thefts. It is impossible to steal in an Communism since everyone has a right to their share of the resources, even if it's bicycles. So you're allowed to "steal" the bikes, since the person don't own them they just lends them and they really only belong to everyone.