How the Terry Shiavo Case

[{GR}Raine]

I think that the whole situation with the Terri Shiavo case was a bunch of BS. Considering Bush's law he passed while Gov. that meant that if a family coudlnt pay for life support, the hospital could kill them. This happened with a 6 month old boy.

Now, I beleive that Bush is going to use this to fix the supreme court with a "right to life" canidate. Mainly, because he made the right wing see that the judges are "evil, baby eating commies!" pfft, yeah right George. So hell use this to put in a pro-life judge. Anyones thoughts on this?

[LSD]

I don't think this case will have any effect on anything.

Sure, congress / the president made a "big deal" of it, but now that the protesters have gone gome, and FoxNews is switching to dead pope coverage, it's no longer politically useful to talk about Terry.

Yes, Bush will appoint conservative religious judges, but not because of Terry, but because he's conservative and religious. He's got a strangle-hold on congress, the support of the country, he doesn't need an "excuse" to appoint "good conservative judges", he'll just do it.

[Matthew The Great]

Bush has been planning to appoint Supreme Court Judges aligned with the religious right since day one of his presidency. Terry's death has not changed his goals.

If anything, this whole situation will help him get his appointments to the Court passed. All those people praying and yelling in Florida for Terry are the republican's base now. They cannot turn their back on them now. That would be suicide.

[Severian]

I think it backfired on Bush and the Republican Party.

Most people, even most evangelical Christians, opposed this blatant government interference in a private matter. The ultraright campaign involving Operation Rescue just did not strike any chord with more than a few people.

I think Bush was trying to do with this case what he's always done: demagogically appeal to the ultraright, visibly supporting their goals, while not getting much of their agenda on culture-war issues actually adopted.

He signed a bill giving Schiavo's parents the right to appeal in the federal courts, knowing perfectly well that the federal courts were going to rule against them too. It's like when he sponsored that gay-marriage constitutional amendment, knowing perfectly well it wasn't going anywhere. He probably figured this was a safe piece of demagogy.

He was wrong: even that much pissed off people and made him pay a price.

So if it has any effect, it'll be to make him more careful in the future about what ultraright culture-war issues he publicly endorses.

[highway star]

Originally posted by Lysergic Acid [email protected] 3 2005, 08:09 AM
Yes, Bush will appoint conservative religious judges, but not because of Terry, but because he's conservative and religious.
I don't think so. Bush is making conservative and religious politics not because of his beliefs, because of his politics. He has to make religious politics because, in USA, people's life standards is getting lower day to day. And if he doesn't put a religious or conservative situation to this country, people may react is politics.
Maybe it will be a great sentence but i should say:
"There is no president or prime minister that believes in God or is religious/conservative"
Because, in socialist countries, ministers already doesnt believe in God... and in capitalist systems they don t believe in God or religion because they all kill people and use people. If there is some belief in a human, then he/she doesnt dothings like that(Dont think that i believe in god... ;)

[LSD]

Yes, in the US, religion is politics, but from all indications Bush is the genuine deal.


in capitalist systems they don t believe in God or religion because they all kill people and use people.

Which proves that they don't believe in religion!?!?

Hardly!

The fact that they're oppressive, murderous, exploitative, liars proves that they are religious. After all, that's precisely the kind of behavour the Bible suggests.

[bolshevik butcher]

I think that it was a horrible way to kill her, couldn't they ahve used morphene or put her down like they do to animals or somehting?

[El_Revolucionario]

http://topplebush.com/humor/2004electionmap.jpg

[bolshevik butcher]

:D , very funny.

[El_Revolucionario]

Originally posted by Clenched [email protected] 3 2005, 04:40 PM
I think that it was a horrible way to kill her, couldn't they ahve used morphene or put her down like they do to animals or somehting?
Well you see she was already braindead anyway, but the reason they removed the feeding tube instead of just giving her a quick death from morphine was because in Florida it would be illegal for anyone to assist in her death. So the only legal way for her to die with dignity would be starvation because that is a natural death as opposed to somebody injecting morphine.

[bolshevik butcher]

Oh i see, stupid law, unhineasisa should be legal.