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refuse_resist
1st April 2005, 02:25
LOS ANGELES -- A large group of people are gearing up to take illegal immigration into their own hands.

Civilians from all walks of life - patrolling the border day and night -- even with the threat of violence. It's called the Minuteman Project. Their goal is stop the flow of illegal immigration through the Arizona-Mexico border.

With nearly 500 volunteers from across the nation these self-proclaimed "guardian vigilantes" are preparing to head south.

From his Orange County home, Jim Gilchrist is planning a mission. His tools are a computer, an atlas and an army of volunteers.

"I struck the mother load of nationalism. I thought I would be lucky to get 12 volunteers. In six months, I've gotten almost 500," Gilchrist told NBC4.

Their target is a 230-mile stretch of desert along the Arizona Mexico Border. Some people call the area America's Open Door. Along this section of the border, more than 43 percent of all illegal entries to the U.S. take place.

Last year, the Tucson Border Patrol apprehended 491,000. But for every person caught, at least five walk in undetected.

"We're going to setup at least 40 maybe 80 outposts, four to six people per outpost 24/7, looking for people who are infiltrating over that border," Gilchrist told NBC4.

To do this, Gilchrist is amassing people from all walks of life to spend a month camped out on the border -- people like James and Linda Chase.

"We're doing something that can help our country. We're stopping people that are coming across illegally," Linda Chase told NBC4.

But some say taking the work of border patrol into their own hands could be deadly. While Gilchrist stresses non-violence, he doesn't rule out the possibility that many of his volunteers will be armed.

"Ten percent of our members are retired law enforcement officers who have a right to carry a concealed weapon. They probably will carry and you won't know it," Gilchrist told NBC4.

But Andy Adame with the U.S. Border Patrol in Tucson told NBC4 that "people are going to get hurt." Adame said many of these volunteers don't know what they're in for.

"When you have untrained civilians, that are armed, that are out in the middle of the desert, in the middle of the night, in the dark, and they meet up with one of these smuggling organizations...you're going to have a gun fight," Adame told NBC4.

Border patrol agents have seen a growing problem with violence in recent years. Agents have been attacked by frustrated smugglers with rocks, bricks, even automatic weapons.

According to authorities, violence along the Tucson sector has climbed to an all-time high. "Bringing untrained civilians into this border environment is a recipe for disaster," Adame told NBC4.

But that has not deterred many of the volunteers.

"It's absolutely a good idea," said a man who plans to volunteer as a pilot for the Minuteman Project. When asked why he thought is was a good idea, Adame told NBC4, "Because I've spent my whole life just about in the military to keep somebody from coming into this country so why not keep it up?"

He's part of what's known as the Minuteman Air Force, both plane and pilot, many of which are well past retirement. They actually plan to use about two dozen aircraft. The typical plane they intend to use down on the border is a small private three-seater aircraft. "I feel it's time the American people stood up and said enough is enough," one of the pilots told NBC4.

It's that mentality that the Minutemen hope will have government officials taking notice.

"This is a chess game. They move and we move and spot and report, and border patrol intercepts and apprehends," Gilchrist told NBC4.

But Gilchrist, who says he wants to work with border patrol, has yet to contact them. "They know what we are doing and I don't feel I have to ask permission to express myself under the first amendment," Gilchrist told NBC4.

The law allows them to do this. It's not illegal for people to organize and in this case camp out in public areas. So come April 1, the Minuteman plan will be in place along the border.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4247317/detail.html

Minuteman Project (http://minutemanproject.com/)

Mara Salvatruchas to take on the Minutemen vigilantes

by Ernesto Cienfuegos

It looks like there is going to be a "showdown at OK corral" on April 1st in Tombstone, Arizona. A high level leader of the Mara Salvatruchas, Ebner Anivel Rivera-Paz, has issued orders, from federal prison, to members of his extremely violent organization to teach the Minutemen vigilantes a lesson they will never forget, La Voz de Aztlan has learned.

The Mara Salvatruchas (MS-13) are a consequence of USA policies in Central America and are just another example of "the chickens coming home to roost". Its members are the sons of immigrants from El Salvador and other Central American countries that were forced to flee because of the CIA instigated war during the Reagan Administration that completely destroyed the physical, economic, social, religious and cultural infrastructure of the region. MS-13 was founded in Los Angeles by the offspring of the immigrants for protection. Later, many of the members were deported back to Central America where they expanded their operations and joined up with former members of the Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front (FMLN) .

Today, the Mara Salvatruchas have grown immensely in numbers and their network has expanded through Mexico all the way to Canada. The extremely violent group controls large portions of the drug, stolen vehicle and immigrant smuggling operations along the US/Mexico border and will not put up with clowns like the Minutemen vigilantes. The amateurish Minutemen may be in for a big surprise on April Fools Day and on the subsequent days that they plan to patrol the border with Mexico in Arizona. The Mara Salvatruchas are known to cut the "testicles" of their enemies and feed them to their vicious dogs. Other times they have cut the heads off their opponents to play football soccer with them. These are not people to mess around with.

There is a good probability that very few cowardly Minutemen vigilantes will show up on April 1st in Tombstone, Arizona. The principal imbeciles organizing the event are known to be mere loudmouths. The morons think that they will be just having "some fun in the sun" hunting down defenseless Mexican migrant workers but instead may meet up with the devil himself. Satan has a very warped sense of humor and April 1st would be an excellent day to express it.

bolshevik butcher
1st April 2005, 10:27
That's sick, and the cops are just gonna let it happen?

refuse_resist
1st April 2005, 12:46
Alot of cops and former cops are supposed to be a part of it. Of course they don't give a shit about immigrants, many of them are kkk members or sympathizers who actually support what these assholes are doing.

Hopefully the Mara Salvatruchas will teach them a lesson they'll never forget.

h&s
1st April 2005, 13:43
Well watching these racist bigots destroy their local economy may just be the lesson that they need to be tought....
Honestly - where do they think all those immigrants go? They can't claim that they go sponging off benefits as that is almost impossible. Immigrants are a vital part of all economies, and they need to learn this.

Colombia
1st April 2005, 15:37
I hate them so much. They always complain about how hispanics are stealing their jobs when it is the bosses who are to blame.

Spartacus2002
1st April 2005, 15:44
just a bunch of fucking rednecks looking for an excuse to shoot at something under the guise of doing something patriotic. partriotism sucks.

bolshevik butcher
3rd April 2005, 17:51
Patrionism, what is patrionism though? If patrrionism is what the nazis then it does suck, but wast aht truley int he interest of the o****ry? No it wasn't so then it was't really patriotic. Internationalism is patriotic.

El_Revolucionario
3rd April 2005, 17:55
this outrages me....well I guess these racists are going to be Bush's Gestapo....

Phalanx
3rd April 2005, 18:21
Do they actually plan to shoot people? What kind of sick people live on this planet?! Down with America!

che-Rabbi
3rd April 2005, 23:53
Billy bob and Sandy Joe Pees are just using illegal immigration as an excuse to shoot something other than the 87 pick up thats been sitting in their yard for six years.

viva le revolution
16th April 2005, 22:04
Okay, first they fuck up the other nation's economy by their overt exploitation then they plan to shoot people who come to their country looking for jobs. That's the real american way. Way to go. This is the kind of nation the imperialistic right wingers are giving birth to. Honestly i see no difference between them and the Nazi's. The only reason they get away with it is that they own the media too.

JustinG
16th April 2005, 22:08
Maybe it's time to take this situation into our own hands.

Malcolm X once said, "It's freedom for everyone or freedom for no one."

If these people want the bullet, maybe that's what they deserve.

Zingu
17th April 2005, 00:56
Yeah, living here in San Diego; near the border, there has been alot of talk about that, so far I haven't heard of any cordinated left wing plan to oppose it here; I mean they are armed and they would love to shoot some commies I guess. :rolleyes:

But, I did help some guts string up some banners on the border fence saying things like "Immigrants are welcome; right wing nationalist pricks fuck off and open the borders!" in english and Spanish.

dso79
17th April 2005, 17:35
Even though the Minuteman Project is especially popular with WN groups, the people behind it don’t seem to be racists. In fact, they say that they are trying to weed out the racists, and they also reject the use of violence.

Parkbench
17th April 2005, 18:10
It's not necessarily racism--just bigotry. Inabilitiy to understand why illegal acts are committed, whether they should be illegal or not, or whether there should be such a thing as illegal and legal in the first place.

I hope immigrants spread the word, organise, and topple this piece of shit gestapo, somehow.

Jersey Devil
17th April 2005, 18:12
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 12:46 PM
Hopefully the Mara Salvatruchas will teach them a lesson they'll never forget.
The only reason that these MS13 are probably doing this is because they support the coyotes that bring in immigrants. The simple fact is that the MS13 and other gangs like them destroy our communities, the "support" for them in this issue is simply inexcusable.

Furthermore, I think that we have to at least acknowledge that Bush has in fact denounced these people as "vigilantes" that are taking the law into their own hands. I was recently reading a National Review article regarding this issue where David Frum has even gone to say how this move by Bush is dividing the Republican Party.