New "Che" movie production dead?

[aztecklaw]

This is a rather credible source:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374569/

Yet there has been no production update, so hopefully by putting it hear it will reach the eyes of someone that can give an update of this production. My suspicion is that it's a dead production... hopefully I'm wrong.

[aztecklaw]

http://www.beniciodeltoro.com/latest/archives/2003_567.php

Here's another site sharing the same story.

I'm trying to surf some spanish sites that might give some more info.

[Colombia]

If it hasn't been updated since last April, I doubt it will get done anytime soon. I don't like the actor playing Che either.

[aberos]

i was under the impression that "che" was to begin filming on location in south america in august. has there been a change?

and what is wrong with benicio?

[LaVictoria]

I do like Benico del Toro, but the fact that it's directed by Steven Soderbergh I don't like. Is it going to be in English? :blink:

[aberos]

it is unclear as to whether or not it is going to be directed by steven soderbergh because malick is still in the picture. but even it is directed by him, how can one snear at the man with traffic, erin brockovich, and ocean's 11 under his belt? i know that ocean's 12 was a let down, but it was at least kind of close to resembling an okay movie.

right now it looks like it is going to filmed in english. i initially had a problem with this like many others because of how it can detract from the integrity of the film, but as long as the screenplay is written in english, i no longer see the harm in it. if nothing else, it will bring a larger american audience to appreciate him as long as the movie is well done.

[seraphim]

I think Del Toro is a great choice to play Che, and despite the film being in English I think the film will reach a wider audience and have a more beneficial effect in terms of what we are trying to achieve being in that language. Most of the people in latin america already know who Che was, what he stood for, and achieved. It is the people in the western world who need to have their eyes opened. Hopefully this film will achieve that.

[LaVictoria]

Ofcourse I hope that the people will learn a lot of this film and that it'll show the correct story. But I think that they will make Fidel a bad guy, something like; "Even Che fled from Cuba and Fidel. O, my, Fidel is such a criminal etc."...
I don't know, we'll see

[aberos]

why do you think that they will villify castro? hollywood loves castro

[Rage]

Haha. Look at this prick: What a Cappie... (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374569/board/nest/16567202)

I would like to see a movie about Ho, Fidel, and Mao.

It cracks me up when he says Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Lenin. Apparently he never saw Animal Farm. (But the damn movie was horrible :( )


/,,/
Rock on!

[aberos]

ha! great link

[Loca_freak]

i love benicio he is a good actor :)
check out this article

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/ne...p?news_id=16664 (http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/newsstory.asp?news_id=16664)

[OleMarxco]

P.S. Is the movie going to be about Che's life AFTER the motorcycle diaries, or WHUT!? Like, unh, the revolutions (At Bolivia, f.eg) and his life in Cuba, n'shit!? Please, fast response. I'm just thrilled-ta-kno'!

P.S.S. I don't consider "IMDB" a rather "credible" source. More like a charlatan-site pretenda-be knowledge of movies. BAH! ;)

[aberos]

i think it is supposed to be set primarily during the bolivian struggle.

imdb is just a side project started by a few film enthusiasts that bloomed into what it is now. given its origins, i would say that i think it is a pretty good source.

[Colombia]

Only time will tell if this is so.

[CheJoni]

I think the video is fine
I am new on the board and i want to ask , if you have some more video-links to so videos? I would be great, I like this.

sry for my bad english, but a german ;)

greez CheJoni

[Loca_freak]

the movie will be out in the summer of 2006 :o

[OleMarxco]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2005, 12:31 AM
imdb is just a side project started by a few film enthusiasts that bloomed into what it is now. given its origins, i would say that i think it is a pretty good source.
RIGHT. It is "JUST" a....cute little side-Project, INNOCENTLY ENOUGH, started just to...well, y'know..."we few, we marry, uh, merry film enthustiasts just...need a homesite to...DISCUSS MOVIES, y'know".....SHUT THE BLOODY HELL UP. Imdb just "bloomed into what it is now", started out as a few burgeouis-like "film-experts" with monopoly on their opinions soldified in a site based ALL on THEIR "holy" outlook on movies, now taken over a by a roaring rampage - full chaos of comments, but controlled in a chokehold of the "few and proud", the "owners" of the site, who DECIDES -what- gets said, and -WHEN-, especially -WHERE- and about -WHAT-. "Good source"...yeah, just as much good source as the health water in the rivers running near Chernobyl! JUST DRINK IT, HOES. Talk about snobby bunch of "film-enthustiasts" club, with alot of suberserviant WANNABE-film-"know-howers" who agitate and act like their funders seeming like as if they know ANYTHING THE HELL ABOUT MOVIES. Go to to hell, anyone giving a Julia Roberts movie a 'ten', should be brought out and castrated. Forever. We need no bad seeds. PLUS.......Evil Ash rules!

Sorry for this side-step in the conversation, but I just HAD to, like, vent my frustration :angry:

[Big Boss]

I think the same way as you do comrade! I don't trust them either. If yoy ask me, they are a bunch of smartasses writing crap on the net. I think Benicio will do a great job in the making of the film(if it is really on the way) and I am positive that this movie will be about his revolutionary life in Sierra Maestra with Fidel and his sttrugle in the Congo and Bolivia. If this movie vilifies Castro(which I bet a nickel on) I will certainly think less of Hollywood and of how the movie industry is affected in the US by the goverment's opinion.

[aberos]

so then it is not the site itself, but, rather, the people who post on it?

[Domingo]

Right now I am in a rush, so I dont know if this question has been asked.

What is this movie about? Besides the fact it is on Che, where does it happen?

[Big Boss]

I am certain that it is going to be about the adulthood of Che, his participation in the Cuban Revolution and his attmeps in sparking revolution in Congo and Bolivia. Other than that, I don't know what else they are going to do about his life.

[Domingo]

So if it does Blivia, it will probably do something over his death.

I really never knew much about his ending days, I hope if the mivie is made, it portrays actual events fairly decent.

[aberos]

essential facts of che's death in bolivia:
1. the transistor radio used for communication broke
2. the men did not move around enough before che came
3. barba roja failed to be as supportive as was necessary with the revolution
4. many of the troops lacked fortitude
5. two defectors were caught and spilled their guts to the anti-revolutionary forces
6. the cia did everything they could to get him

[Big Boss]

That pretty much sums it up. If you want the whole scoop on the events, I recomend you to watch a documentary that changed my knowledge of what really happened in Bolivia. The documentary is called: "Sacrificio". There was something else in the tittle that I don't remenber but "Sacrificio" is the main tittle. Look it up. :)

[Domingo]

Sounds intresting. I just realized I read some of that off the Che-lives.com bio of Che.

[Colombia]

The movie will most likely not mention the Green Berets involvment in his death if it is a major motion picture.

[Enragé]

THIS SUCKS, THOSE DAMN CAPITALIST ASSHOLES JUST WANT TO DISGRACE HIS DEATH AND HIS MEMORY BY MAKING MONEY OVER HIS FUCKING BACK!!!!!

[aberos]

because current hollywood is notorious for bein conservative

[themanwhodoesnotexist]

PEACE
i had no idea about this movie....
but i always thought Del Toro would be the perfect actor to play Che.....
i hope they do justice with this movie

[themanwhodoesnotexist]

PEACE
i had no idea about this movie....
but i always thought Del Toro would be the perfect actor to play Che.....
i hope they do justice with this movie

[themanwhodoesnotexist]

PEACE
i had no idea about this movie....
but i always thought Del Toro would be the perfect actor to play Che.....
i hope they do justice with this movie

[Phalanx]

Is Del Toro a leftist? Or is he just doing it for the hell of it? Anyway, i thought he was great in "The way of the Gun"

[Knowledge 6 6 6]

Del Toro's an actor...whatever political orientation he is matters little, because he's portraying an entirely different character.

It's like asking if Denzel Washington supported Malcolm X. Whether he did or didn't does not matter; he did an exceptional job in Spike Lee's 'X'.

[Sabocat]

I was under the impression that the film was going to be based on Jon Lee Anderson's book, but who knows for sure if that will be the case, and exactly what parts of Anderson's book they'll spin.

I would suspect that a film made in the U.S. by a mainstream director and a big box office draw Benecio will not be a very good portrayal of El Che.

I would suspect that it will paint him as a dillusional and possibly even slightly as a terrorist of some sort that had to be brought to justice.

There is no way the U.S. will put out a complimentary view of a revolutionary.

[Knowledge 6 6 6]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 06:07 PM
I was under the impression that the film was going to be based on Jon Lee Anderson's book, but who knows for sure if that will be the case, and exactly what parts of Anderson's book they'll spin.

I would suspect that a film made in the U.S. by a mainstream director and a big box office draw Benecio will not be a very good portrayal of El Che.

I would suspect that it will paint him as a dillusional and possibly even slightly as a terrorist of some sort that had to be brought to justice.

There is no way the U.S. will put out a complimentary view of a revolutionary.
Whatever the scenario is, it's not going to be accurate. No movie is accurate. No book is accurate. Just sit back and enjoy the film, and that a mainstream American director decided to make a movie on Che.

[Sabocat]

Just sit back and enjoy the film, and that a mainstream American director decided to make a movie on Che.

That's ridiculous. Why would I enjoy a film that portrayed Che as some sort of lunatic fringe?

[aztecklaw]

The order of the day is the 'epic' movie genre.

Hopefully after "Kingdom of Heaven", this genre will end quick. I'm so sick of 'epic' movies. Filled with rousing speeches to boost morale before the big fight that has been deflating steadily after a constant dose of 'epic' movies hitting the theaters the past years has left me dry on epic movies.

So what is going to make this movie unique is forcing the audience to take a different perspective. In the style of "The Passion of Christ" and "Braveheart", I'm sure this movie will have the new and improved hollywood martyr ending. In order to carry this audience to this style of ending they are going to start the 'epic' journey in Mexico where he meets Castro.

Before release the movie will be spun in the media as controversial and 'unpatriotic'.

Yes, my name is Nostradamous and I can see the future. :lol:

Anyways, seriously, how the movie will potray Che and public reaction will be more than predicable....

Sure, Hollywood's main objective will be trying to make a buck from the iconic Che, but who cares, at least they are going to put the story out there and maybe force a viewer to see Che in a different way rather than the boorish Rambo "I hate commies!" sentiment.

And I really don't know what the big fuss is all about regarding IMDb. They're a credible source and I don't think they are just inventing movies, plus there are outside sources that share the same details. Now if you are going into the 'opinion' section where visitors post... well... welcome to America where 90% of the people are brainwashed into hate propaganda, but I thought you knew this already...

I honestly don't think this production will paint Che in a bad way, I really have no worries regarding that. What I really do worry about is an attempt to stylize the film into what we are witnessing in contemporary epic movies.

What I really liked about "Motorcycle Diaries" is that it didn't manufacture emotional scenes or spell out the 'revolutionary mind' on the big screen. What it did was present poignant information without dweeling in them and didn't depend on a sweeping musical score to carry the movie. It presented the viewer a simple story about Che and the events and its power came from forcing the viewer to think, therefore, not presenting the revolution on the big screen but rather helping the viewer understand it in their minds. In case you're wondering - Yes! "Motorcycle Diaries" was a masterpiece!

Let's hope things don't get thwarted by a cheesy B-rated epic movie production follow up.

[Big Boss]

If they do carry on with making this movie, it will not show the true image of Che to the American public. All that the audience has to know is that:a) Communism is bad. b) Che was a Communist. c)Che was bad. d)Fidel probably had something to do with his death. 3) Let's become soldiers and defend "democracy" in Irak. This goverment, I just hate it!

[Floyd.]

Traffic wasn't exactly pro american let's gloss over it all though. Soderbergh may do a good job.

[LaVictoria]

I hope they make a good movie, though I'm not getting my hopes up. They'll probably make Fidel the bad guy and Che a romantic figure...we'll see. When are they shooting it/finishing it?

[Big Boss]

They probably will. Let's just wait and see what they will do with the theme of the Revolutionary trail of his life and if it will be accurate to the end.