Colombia

[Tyler]

Why dont we really do something to further the cause rather then sit on our computers and complain about whats going on? The FARC-EP in Colombia seems like it has a good chance of succeding in bringing socalism back to Latin America, maybe we should raise money for them or supply them with weapons or something like that?

[Tupac-Amaru]

eheheheh, i dont really beleive in the FRAC's struggle...it sort of reminds me of WWI before the yanks came: no-one is realy winning...its just fighting with no apparent result. So i dissagree with you man...in realy dont think they have "a good chance of succeding"; they're simply stuck.

And about the money and guns...they got plenty of that, trust me, they get a SHIT LOAD of the dough from selling cocaine...and then they can buy guns with that money.

[Tyler]

I agree that the FARC probably has enough money but I really do believe that they are growing more powerfull everyday and can win. But I still think we should try to help some how, and we shouldn't restrict ourselves to Colombia. Other revolutions around the world need aid as well. I would like information on other such struggles.

[Kez]

The situation in Latin America is very interesting.

It is clear that the people of the Latin American countries have really had enough of imperialism and its puppets in government, and slowly but surely this anti-imperialist feeling is turning to ever more friendly approach to listening to the ideas of marxism and taking them on. This we can see in Venezuela, Colombia, Peru and Bolivia.

What can we do internationally? Raise the issue of whats happening in these countries, to highlight the international plight of the workers, and to give solidarity to the Latin Americans who are in the struggle

On a practical basis we can do this through setting up societies in universities or talking in our union branches. Its already quite easy to do this, contact me or www.handsoffvenezuela.org and ask either for help in establishing a society. This way we can win over people to marxism and give help to those in the struggle.

We can and should do this now!
www.handsoffvenezuela.org

[aberos]

what the people need is a leader. they need a fidel or a che or a mao or a lenin. they just simply are lacking the charisma of a strong leader. as kez said, these revolutionary groups have plenty of armaments and supplies, but they lack the instrument of inspiration.

[Latin America]

Well first I think you should register tyler.

[Tupac-Amaru]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 12:11 AM
this anti-imperialist feeling is turning to ever more friendly approach to listening to the ideas of marxism and taking them on. This we can see in Venezuela, Colombia, Peru and Bolivia.

ehhh dude, im from Peru and im sorry to say that there is very little of this "listening to the ideas of marxism" over here...esspecialy after the genocidal campaigns of groups such as the Shining Path

[Guest]

There is an support organization that does the sort of things you were touching on.

Revolutionary Support Network (http://www.freepeoplesmovement.org/rsn/index.html)

Check it out

[Kez]

Originally posted by Tupac-Amaru+Mar 28 2005, 07:11 PM--> (Tupac-Amaru @ Mar 28 2005, 07:11 PM)
[email protected] 28 2005, 12:11 AM
this anti-imperialist feeling is turning to ever more friendly approach to listening to the ideas of marxism and taking them on. This we can see in Venezuela, Colombia, Peru and Bolivia.

ehhh dude, im from Peru and im sorry to say that there is very little of this "listening to the ideas of marxism" over here...esspecialy after the genocidal campaigns of groups such as the Shining Path [/b]
I never said marxism had a mass following comrade, rather it was on the increase, and this is a direct result to people looking for an alternative as the masses mobilize.

see if these articles interest you.
http://www.marxist.com/peru.asp

what you think?

[Colombia]

The only way I can think of helping right now is by either enlightening the masses or picking up the gun.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

And if you can't do the latter you should seriously consider directly support those who are doing them in anyway you can.

[Tyler]

We have established that to help our cause we need to spread the word about Marxism or physicaly pick up a gun and join a revolution. I believe we can help spread our beliefs better if we organize and plan our efforts. www.handsoffvenesuela.org would be a good place to start for that purpose. As for arming ourselves I am all for that although I am sure none of has the weapons or millitary training needed to conduct ourselves in any that would help the revolution. We need some kind of contacts, people that know people that have some kind of knowledge in this in would help us. Then we would still have to locate each other to begin building unit cohesion, train in specific squad roles, etc. This would be a difficult task but to do this and succed would be very rewarding.

[rice349]

FARC-EP has plenty of money, and i belive (at least in the states) it is illegal to fund money for them and transfer due to the U.S. government's stance that FARC is a "terrorist" group. But i don't think it shouldn't be done, i agree, action needs to be taken.

[Guest_chebol]

It is also illegal to rasie money for the FARC in Australia, as it is a 'listed' organisation.

Be careful what you're suggesting so publicly, as forming armed guerrilla units is not usually looked upon as a legitmate past-time. Anyway, armed 'revolution' in western countries requires mass support for any hope of success. I would suggest that this is where to start.

P.S. The FARC does NOT have a lot of money. It neither runs drugs, nor even supports the production of them. The only money directly associated with coca that the FARC collects is a tax on the production of the primary product- coca leaves, by the campesinos in the territories that the FARC controls.

Generally, the main way we can support groups or governments who are rolling back imperial barbarism is to destroy the lies created around them- lessening the ferocity of the propaganda, and raising questions in the minds of people in our own communities.

That said, everyone who can ought to come to Venezuela this August, for the World Festival of Youth and Students in Caracas. If in Australia, you can also come on our Solidarity brigade (for info see www.venezuelasolidarity.org) and get a sense of a revolution in it's springtime.

[ElCap'nCommie]

If anyone needs support monetarily its the CPN. They are making vast headway against the Neplaese monarchy, and could use all of the support they can get.

[Tyler]

Maybe we should begin thinking of ways to assist the CPN. Are they on "the list" if not it would be relativly simple to raise money for them.

[13Commnists]

U.S. State Department list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations
1. Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
2. Abu Sayyaf Group
3. Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
4. Al-Manar (added on December 17, 2004 [1]
5. Ansar al-Islam
6. Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
7. Asbat al-Ansar
8. Aum Shinrikyo
9. Basque Country and Liberty (ETA)
10. Communist Party of the Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA)
11. Continuity Irish Republican Army
12. Gama'a al-Islamiyya (Translates: Islamic Group)
13. HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
14. Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
15. Hezbollah (Translates: Party of Allah)
16. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
17. Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Translates: Army of Mohammed)
18. Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad
19. Jemaah Islamiya organization (JI)
20. al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad)
21. Kahane Chai (Kach)
22. Kongra-Gel (KGK, formerly Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK, KADEK
23. Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LT) (Army of the Righteous)
24. Lashkar i Jhangvi
25. Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
26. Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK)
27. National Liberation Army (ELN)
28. Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
29. Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
30. Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
31. Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command (PFLP-GC)
32. al-Qa'ida
33. Real IRA
34. Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
35. Revolutionary Nuclei (formerly ELA)
36. Revolutionary Organization 17 November
37. Revolutionary People's Liberation Army/Front (DHKP/C)
38. Salafist Group for Call and Combat (GSPC)
39. Shining Path (Sendero Luminoso, SL)
40. Tanzim Qa'idat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (QJBR) (al-Qaida in Iraq) (formerly Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad, JTJ, al-Zarqawi Network)
41. United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC)
Here's the List as of 2004
CPN(M) not on the list. :)