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DUNKiNUTS
27th March 2005, 00:50
What are the general differances between these parties?
Democratic
Republican
Libertarian
Green
Reform
Constitution
Natural Law
Socicalist
Communist
Labor
Note: major United States Political parties
Brennus
27th March 2005, 02:37
Democrats & Republicans are two sides of the same coin, with one pretending to be left-center and the other pretending to be right-center. In reality they are both capitalist imperialists.
The Libertarians are basically hardcore free market capitalists with individual liberty and such.
The Green party is like an environmentally concerned version of the Democrats.
Reform is kind of a third position party. Anti-immigration, trade protectionism, etc.
The Constitution party is a party that promotes the ideas found in the constitution. :D
The Communist Party of the USA claims to be "communist" but is really just a bunch of lap-dogs for the Democrats.
Socialist_Smurf
27th March 2005, 03:21
Libertarians are Extreme-Capitalist anarchists who want police protection from their slaves....seriously Libertarians are the most idiotic people I've ever met, no offense to them as people but their ideas. Their should be NO government involvement in anything unless someone's shooting at you?
LSD
27th March 2005, 03:42
Assuming you meant in the US for all of them, here is a brief summary of each:
Democratic
Moderate far right Capitalist American imperialists. Support minor government intervention in exeptional cases, generally in favour of limited social services, but very limited.
Republican
Far far right Capitalist American imperialists. Support government intervention in religious and moral cases. Generally opposed to any form of social services except in election years.
Libertarian
As far right as you can get. Capitalist, generally nonimperialist. Support no government, except, usually, military and politce forces. Believe that capitalism is natural and the role of the state is to prevent the "initiation of force"
Green
Moderate right Capitalist environmentalists. Generally nonimperialistic, support drastic enviornmental changes to adress climate change, deforestation, and exctinction. Generally agree with the Democratic party on government intervention, but somwhat further to the left.
Reform
Far far right Capitalist Isolationists. Agree with the republicans on most social issues, although typically further to the right on immigration and religion. Opposed to internationalism and trade.
Constitution
Far far far right Christian Capitalist isolationists. Believe that the constiution should be interpreted as written, strongly in favour of religion in government as well as, effectively, the removal of government from nearly all social issues. Originally founded in opposition to income tax, still against any progressive taxation. Opposed to internationalism and trade.
Natural Law
Centrist Spiritualist party founded on the teachings of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Believe that all problems can be solved through meditation. No platform beyond this.
Socicalist
At present, the official "American Socialist party" is a small moderate left coalition with roughly 1000 members. They support strong government intervention and funding but generally oppose communism.
Communist
Classical Left authoritarian communist party based on the principles of Marxist-Leninism and the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Labor
Moderate right capitalist unionist party. Effectitvely an offshoot of the Green partya and an amalgamation of labour unions. Generally pro-union, pro-environment, pro-government.
SonofRage
29th March 2005, 01:36
Originally posted by Lysergic Acid
[email protected] 26 2005, 11:42 PM
Socicalist
At present, the official "American Socialist party" is a small moderate left coalition with roughly 1000 members. They support strong government intervention and funding but generally oppose communism.
There is no "American Socialist Party." There is the Socialist Party USA, which has closer to 2,000 members right now actually. It is a multi-tendency party, so there is a broad range of opinion. Members are united by a common set of principles, but may have different underlying philosophies.
Examples of organized tendencies in the SP-USA:
Debs Tendency (http://www.debstendency.org)
Direct Action Tendency (http://www.actiontendency.net)
Matthew The Great
29th March 2005, 03:43
I am suprised people think the Greens are so similar to the Democrats...They are radically different on a ton of issues...instead of typing all of them here is a list of differences between the Greens and the Democrats and Republicans. (http://www.therealdifference.org/issues2.html)
RedLenin
29th March 2005, 04:32
These greens sound like slightly socialist reformists. Best of the parties, but dont vote for them. Reform wont get us anywhere. Really they are only a bit further left than the democrats. They havent gotten into office and thats the only reason why they arent in bed with the corporations.
workersunity
29th March 2005, 07:27
Hey sonofrage, hows it going, its me john from DAT, welp ya i do hope one day the SP gets large enough to aid with the revolution,
LSD
29th March 2005, 19:15
I am suprised people think the Greens are so similar to the Democrats...They are radically different on a ton of issues...instead of typing all of them here is a list of differences between the Greens and the Democrats and Republicans.
Those are all pretty specific US policy issues. Fundamentally the Green party is an environmental moderate rightist party. They support capitalism, government, property rights, income disparity...
Yes, they are further to the left than the democrats, which is why I would call them moderate right as opposed to the Democrats who are moderate far right, but I maintain my initial statement that the Greens "generally agree with the Democratic party on government intervention, but [are] somwhat further to the left".
Matthew The Great
29th March 2005, 19:27
Of course those were US policys. It was taken from the Green Party USA site. But the US Greens are pretty close to the European Greens.
You should look into them a little deeper if you still think they are a so called "Rightist" party.
LSD
29th March 2005, 20:22
Well, they support capitalism, they support American government, they support property rights.
I'm not saying that they're "the same" as the Democratic Party, but I would not put them on the left side of the spectrum.
More Fire for the People
30th March 2005, 03:29
Democratic - Split between nepotistic liberals and social democrats;
Republican - Split between fascist and nazis;
Libertarian - People who don't give a damn about anything except for money... oh and "freedom";
Green - Some nice guys that care about the environment;
Reform - Term limits, bureacratic immigration, balanced budget;
Constitution - Fascism + Theocracy;
Natural Law - Peaceniks;
Socicalist - Basically the Greens but a little more to the left on economic issues;
Communist - See Democrat;
Labor - Just a bunch of left-leaning trade unionist;
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