Originally posted by
[email protected] 1 2005, 06:46 AM
of their labor and control the market, basically forcing workers into slavery.
The closest thing you'll ever experience to slavery boy, even in the middle of god-forsaken Nebraska, is your parents telling you to take out the garbage.
Nice come-back; why didn't you just say "I will meet on the playground?"
I understand if you can't deal with discussion but do you really have to make stupid irrelevant commentary?
I notice you can't refute what I said.
Are you a slave?
This is where you check out of the argument. Your assertion has no rational basis.
Am I a slave? In a way yes; I may have some token "rights" but I must find a job soon to able to make any sort of life for myself. If I do not, my life will be contiually defficient and I will lose even the basic nesseities. I am fortunate to have people around to help me with basic needs and the skills needed to get a job, plus I have worked and my family helped me fund the schooling I need to get a decent job.
I am was just born into semi-sufficient circumstance, many people do not have those luxuries and have to struggle continously with a shit job, hardly able to pay the bills, with likely not enough time to find better opportunities or start a fucking business!
Every worker may start his or her own business.
If they already have the resources, so only if they are chosen by those controlling the market.
Nope, they may borrow from friends; they may put together a business plan and borrow from investors or banks; or they may apply to different levels of government for low-interest small business loans.
Do you think before writing your slogans or does that take up too much time?
How very selective of you; that's okay, just pick the points you feel like defending.
You are right, that works for anyone that applies and the market doesn't deny anyone, the chance. Now you just need to show the statistics to back it up... I'll start holding my breath. BTW, do you know what the word "slogan" means? Because you seem confused.
Tell me, did the folks kidnapped and sold into slavery by their neighbors have those choices? They were slaves.
No, they did not "kidnapped" me but I had no choice in where I would be born,
If I read your profile correctly you're 22 years old. You are free to leave anytime.
Irrelivant.
Women and children younger than you float across 90 miles of shark-infested Caribbean sea to get from Cuba to here, I would think a 22 year-old corn-fed Nebraskan shouldn't have much trouble going the opposite way.
Also, irelivant; that fact that someone can change their circumstances by migration has no direct bearing on the general lack of significant opportunity in capitalism.
as most people do not have significant choices in capitalism, you have to take a job or you suffer/die.
NovelGentry has spent the last two weeks telling us that if we don't work in Socialism or Communism, we'll die too.
What's the difference?
Well, firstly, I don't really agree with that discription but you could certainly be productive and advance yourself; as compared to capitalism, where you mostly cannot.
Yeah, not absolute slavery, capitalists are nice enough to give you a choice: slavery or death. Then again, slaves can usually kill themselves, so your argument is shit.
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May I ask, what is the basis for your misguided anger?
Mommy and Daddy a little too strict with you?
What is the basis of your ignorance? Think you will be something great someday? Hoping to be a powerfull ceo? Your little emtional diversion tacktics are pathetic; I have argued against far better distractionary tactics.
Ah, so you don't dispute it, well your profile says it too:
"Angering leftist radicals. Which is good because it's easier than breathing."
You forgot to mention though that it is also easier than thinking.
Considering this comes from someone who doesn't understand how most small businesses are started, it really doesn't mean much.
Considering that you are a liar and don't provide proof of your argument, I won't waste time with this.
You are a credit to capitalism sir, "I do it because it is easy," translation = you are a lazy capitalist with "nothing better to do."
Yeah, what I do is a lot easier than running around yelling "workers are slaves! workers are slaves! Nobody can start a business unless they're rich! You have to work or die! workers are slaves!
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That is nice, I don't yell either but you have now practicaly admited that you are a lazy capitalist with "nothing better to do," and I'm comfortable with my views.