Freedom for all sexual preferences.

[Spartacus2002]

i think people should be treated equal regardless of what their sexaul preference gay strait whatever, i have a freind that likes to fuck donkeys but who should judge right he cant help it, its his preference we musent judge donkey fuckers kid fuckers who cares we musent judge anyone right

[t_wolves_fan]

Are you opposed to pretty much all moral judgements?

[Loknar]

right man, lets support NAMBLA.

society sets standards, and the standard I have been instilled with is too shoot the sons of *****es who are pedaphiles and who wuld harm children.


just because yopu like ramming a donkey in the ass doesnt mean it ok by my standards.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 04:07 PM
i think people should be treated equal regardless of what their sexaul preference gay strait whatever, i have a freind that likes to fuck donkeys but who should judge right he cant help it, its his preference we musent judge donkey fuckers kid fuckers who cares we musent judge anyone right
I disagree, as most donkeys don't consent to be fucked.
Legitimacy springs from uncoerced consent, which most donkeys don't give.
Most homosexual adults, however, do.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 08:04 PM
society sets standards, and the standard I have been instilled with is too shoot the sons of *****es who are pedaphiles and who wuld harm children.

What if paedophilia was a medical problem?

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 05:21 PM
Are you opposed to pretty much all moral judgements?
Yes.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 07:04 PM
right man, lets support NAMBLA.

society sets standards, and the standard I have been instilled with is too shoot the sons of *****es who are pedaphiles and who wuld harm children.


just because yopu like ramming a donkey in the ass doesnt mean it ok by my standards.
Yr standards don't mean fuck-all; nobody's asking you to ram a donkey in the ass.

NAMBLA is an absurd example, because a child can't meaningfully consent to sexual activity.

[NovelGentry]

http://www.overspun.com/images/GayMarriageFormula.jpg

As seen on the Daily Show with John Stewart, based on a quote by some right wing nutjob, this is what will happen if gay marriage isn't banned, but allowed!

[Son of the Revolution]

Allowing paedophilia and bestial sex is going to far, the donkey never consented, and most kids who consent to have sex don't know what they're doing. But as long as the people involved want to do it and properly understand what they're doing then they should be allowed do whatever the fuck they want to.

[NovelGentry]

the donkey never consented

Not to turn this thread into total humor, given my last post aswell, but if a donky didn't constent and you were trying to have sex with it, you'd know it pretty fast. I seen a man's leg broken in two by a donkey, not in real life of course.

Anyway, on a more serious note. The point is that the argument put fourth, particularly what in inspired the Daily Show graphic was that "If this was allowed to happen, what would stop people from marrying a turtle." Or something along those lines. Of course, it's a completely rediculous argument.

In short, the ONLY argument which can be thrown in to deny such freedom is a religious one -- this "sanctity of marriage" assumes you've got something that respects these so called "sanctities." Laws change, and definitions change, it's no different than someone saying that refusing the women the right to vote is protecting the "sanctity of voting." Complete and utter garbage. It's not EVEN an argument. There is no argument to be had, it is one issue that the right is simply WRONG on.

[Xvall]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 04:21 PM
Are you opposed to pretty much all moral judgements?
Morality is extremely subjective, and tends to be strongly based upon religion, which few of us here hold any regard towards. This next statement is in regards to more than on person's quote.


bestial sex is going to far,

There is absolutely wrong, at this point in time, with bestial sex.


the donkey never consented

Of course not, but neither did the cow consent to be rendered unconscious and butchered. The pig never consented to being confined to a cage for the rest of it's life — we eat it anyways. As long as society doesn't see a problem with imprisoning, abusing, and killing animals against their will, I don't understand why society would see a problem with sleeping with one against it's will.

[Redmau5]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 23 2005, 11:11 PM
Of course not, but neither did the cow consent to be rendered unconscious and butchered. The pig never consented to being confined to a cage for the rest of it's life — we eat it anyways. As long as society doesn't see a problem with imprisoning, abusing, and killing animals against their will, I don't understand why society would see a problem with sleeping with one against it's will.
Excellent point. Although i don't agree with having sex with animals, i do enjoy the odd fry-up. But i can see your logic.

[DarkAngel]

I am all for people fucking whoever they want to fuck or marry as long as, who they want to fuck/marry wants to back. But pedofiles and and donkey fuckers are just creepy. You don&#39;t know if that donley has a mate.....or is willing.. <_< :rolleyes:


:lol:

[colombiano]

There are 2 main arguements regarding sexual orientation. Sexuality is either constructed by Society or by Biology. The truth is it is a little of both. Michel Foucalt pointed out that there was NO distinct category of people called "homosexuals" until a century ago , when scientists and eventually the public began "Labeling" people as such. Anthropologists provide further evidence that sexual orientation is Socially COnstructed Studies show that sexuality differ greatly from one society to another. In Siberia the Chukchee Eskimo perform a ritual during which one man dresses like the woman and does a womans work. The Sambia, in eastern Highlands of New Guinea have a ritual in which young boys perform oral sex on elder men in the belief that injesting semen will enhance masculinityThis diversity seems to point that sexual expression has much to do with society itself and it norms and mores.If you want more info on Biology and sexuality Simon LeVay links orientation to the structure of ones brain, or a "gay gene". Americans label it as deviance now but over time as trends show it will become more acceptable. I would also suggest reading Alfred Kinsey and his theories on the matter.


The United States in just one big tragic case of Social , Gender and Sexual Orientation Stratification.

[bed_of_nails]

I am married to a Turtle. We are gay lovers. His name is Jamahl. I will often let him chain me up and have his cruel way with me for hours. Is this really that wrong?

[rice349]

I don&#39;t care who fucks who or what, if a guy wants to fuck a man, woman, horse, nephew, mascot whatever&#33;?&#33;? As long as he is a hard worker and devoted to the revolution i don&#39;t care if he runs a train on a newborn lol.

[Xvall]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 11:35 PM
Excellent point. Although i don&#39;t agree with having sex with animals, i do enjoy the odd fry-up. But i can see your logic.
Yeah. I personally aren&#39;t fond of bestiality either. Just thought it would be an interesting thing to point out. The way that human&#39;s relate with animals has always amused me.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 23 2005, 11:11 PM
. . . we eat it anyways.
Speak for yrself.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

In moral terms, is there any difference between eating an animal or eating it out?

[t_wolves_fan]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 24 2005, 06:42 AM

Yeah. I personally aren&#39;t fond of...
Are you more than one person or something?

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 01:54 PM
In moral terms, is there any difference between eating an animal or eating it out?
Depends on what a given animal will consent to in a situation . . . :P

Admittedly, eating animals is sometimes an unfortunate necessity - in those situations, the circumstances demand a different approach. Generally however, I&#39;m of the opinion that under normal circumstances, eating and/or eating out another animal (human or otherwise) without their consent, is innapropriate.

[Xvall]

Originally posted by t_wolves_fan+Mar 24 2005, 01:57 PM--> (t_wolves_fan @ Mar 24 2005, 01:57 PM)
Drake [email protected] 24 2005, 06:42 AM

Yeah. I personally aren&#39;t fond of...
Are you more than one person or something? [/b]
Yes. I am two people.