bush - elected????

[bluerev002]

ive heard a lot of talk on how bush was never really elected. and every time i ask someone they give me a diffrent answer on the subject.

i wanna know. was bush really elected or is that all just talk n' stuff?

[new democracy]

go to http://www.electionworld.org/unitedstates.htm and see for yourself.

[PunkRawker677]

Well, the debate is:

Gore got more actual votes, but Bush got more Electoral votes. So, it really depends how you look at it.

[vox]

Bush didn't win the election at all.

"A document, revealed by Newsweek, indicates that the Florida recount that was stopped last year by five Republicans on the U.S. Supreme Court would have taken into account so-called "overvotes' that heavily favored Gore.

"If those 'overvotes' were counted, as now it appears they would have been, Gore would have carried Florida regardless of what standard of chad – dimpled, hanging, punched-through – was used in counting the so-called “undervotes,” according to an examination of those ballots by a group of leading news organizations."

(Source (http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/112101a.html))

"The latest unofficial Florida recount shows Al Gore with a net gain of 682 votes from the Miami Herald/USA Today examination of 'overvotes' – those that counting machines had kicked out for registering more than one vote for president.

"It turned out that 1,871 of these disqualified ballots were clearly marked for Gore and 1,189 were clearly marked for George W. Bush, giving Gore that net gain of 682 votes.

"For those who remember Bush's official victory margin of 537 votes, the math would seem simple. Subtract 537 from 682, giving Gore a narrow win by 145 votes." (Source (http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/051201a.html))

"In a better-late-than-never look at the mess that was the Florida vote count, The Washington Post discovered what critics of George W. Bush’s 'victory' have long alleged – that his 537-vote margin benefited from a host of irregularities, many traceable to his brother’s administration or to post-election Republican maneuvering.

"The Post's most important new discovery might be evidence that Bush's side padded its lead with scores of absentee votes that were cast after Election Day or did not meet legal standards.

"Those votes were counted in heavily Republican counties – though not in Democratic strongholds – after the Bush campaign rallied its supporters and the national news media to condemn Al Gore's campaign for initially demanding that legal requirements be followed." (Source (http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/060201a.html))

Bush simply didn't win the election.

vox

[vox]

Oh, and you also should all read Bush's Conspiracy to Riot (http://www.consortiumnews.com/2002/080502a.html) which shows that the Bush recount team flew in Republican activists, expenses paid, on Enron and Haliburton jets. Some of those identified in the riot are now on the White House staff.

This presidency marks a low point in the history of the Republic.

vox

[antieverything]

It gets worse...just read chapter one of Stupid White Men by Michael Moore.

Nobody even mentioned the tons of people who were denied the vote because they had a similar a name to that of a felon...or that the poorest and heavily democratic areas had the most worn out voting machines that have a tendency to create dimpled or hanging chads.

[Conghaileach]

The problem is that, all votes aside, Bush was finally placed into power by the 9-member US Supreme Court - which had a Republican majority. These were not elected officials.

The move was a coup d'etat. The current president is a dictator, who was not voted in by the people.

[Conghaileach]

Just my opinion, by the way.

[Marxman]

Bush actually made his goddamn putch by the falsified votes. In reality, noone even like that republican but that Gore is no better. Because the differences between 2 burgeois aren't fundamental. You see, Bush's fraud triumph has got a point of all this. 11th September as we all know, was planted and now he can develop the arsenal for his own campaign for imperialism. His next step is Iraq and Bush everyday more and more reminds me of Hitler of Mussolini or even Stalin. Just another imperialist who solves his country's crisis by making other nations guilty as charged. Yes, it happened and it will happen again. Always the same story, capitalism in crisis is fascism, as Lenin emphasized and oh boy is that true.