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new democracy
8th August 2002, 00:29
not only he was a genius but he great political views. for example:

"I would much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state." (Albert Einstein, in Ideas and Opinions, [Crown Publishers, New York, 1954], p. 190)

i remember that he said more things like that so post more political things that he said.

PunkRawker677
8th August 2002, 01:16
He was also a socialist, if my readings are correct. I read a piece by him a while back about how capitalism holds down education. I cant remember the name of it, but i am sure someone here knows.

vox
8th August 2002, 01:50
Why Socialism (http://www.monthlyreview.org/598einst.htm) by Albert Einstein.

PunkRawker677
8th August 2002, 03:37
Thanks Vox! Thats it!

bluerev002
8th August 2002, 21:14
you know ive heard that his E=mc2. is wrong.

i dont know im no scientist.

but i dont really know much of this man.
and i didnt know he was a socialist!

Felicia
8th August 2002, 23:02
E=mc2 isn't wrong as far as I know, I first learned of it in like 9th grade and the teach didn't say anything about its validity being shot or even questioned :). If that was wrong, do you realize what that would mean? Everything would be 'wrong', that's not fun to think about :( .I'm not a mathematical geneous or anything but I would say it's correct.

PunkRawker677
9th August 2002, 00:47
It is correct. It makes things go Boom! We've seen it happen.

bluerev002
9th August 2002, 01:52
"It followed from the special theory of relativity that mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing -- a somewhat unfamilar conception for the average mind. Furthermore, the equation E is equal to m c-squared, in which energy is put equal to mass, multiplied by the square of the velocity of light, showed that very small amounts of mass may be converted into a very large amount of energy and vice versa. The mass and energy were in fact equivalent, according to the formula mentioned before. This was demonstrated by Cockcroft and Walton in 1932, experimentally." Albert Einstein

it is thought that his idea of light being a continum, may be wrong and that light over billions of years may and will slow down.

http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/voice1.htm

you can hear him explain it.

"A team, led by theoretical physicist Paul Davies of Sydney's Macquarie University, say it is possible that the speed of light has slowed over billions of years.

If so, physicists will have to rethink many of their basic ideas about the laws of the universe.

''That means giving up the theory of relativity and E-mc squared and all that sort of stuff,'' Davies told Reuters.


well its not sure yet but it may be true. i dont know much of this but thanx to new democracy for starting this thread! know i will learn of this theory and of this man.

vox
9th August 2002, 02:08
From what I understand, Einstein's physics break down in regard to Very Small Things, the same way Newton's broke down before and Einstein came along and got his name in the history books. Now, it seems, quantun mechanics is taking over.

Actually, peacenicked is probably the one to ask about this.

vox

bluerev002
9th August 2002, 04:58
yah.......and were is he any ways? peacenicked i mean. i havent seen any of his post....i think i just have to look at all da topics more i guess.

but whatever is the right answer to e=mc2 i dont know. its all too complicated

marxistdisciple
9th August 2002, 17:07
Aome of his theories hold the key to long distance space travel too....if the speed of light is not constant, then we could travel perhaps faster than it? What about the theories of relativeity, where he talks about time being relative? Everything's related he said

Xvall
9th August 2002, 17:56
Albert Einstien (A great man), was an Anti-American; and a Communist. I wanted to point this out. Do not believe me? After years of advocating a pacifist answer to world conflict, Albert Einstein grew increasingly disillusioned with the shallow message of this idea and became involved with the Communist movement in 1937. Though critical of Joseph Stalin’s policies, he joined the Communist Party and was a member of 34 Communist-affiliated organizations and chaired three. This was not received well by FBI chief J Edgdar Hoover, who kept a 1,427-page (http://foia.fbi.gov/einstein.htm) file on the famous physist. He This essay was originally published in the first issue of the socialist magazine Monthly Review (http://www.monthlyreview.org/) (May 1949). Visit the Einstein Internet Archive.

Einstien is also credited by writing his very interesting piece of work called 'Why Socialism' (http://www.monthlyreview.org/598einst.htm).

And here is a famous ANTI-AMERICAN Einstien Quote.

"I came to America because of the great, great freedom which I heard existed in this country. I made a mistake in selecting America as a land of freedom, a mistake I cannot repair in the balance of my lifetime."

-Albert Einstein, 1947

(Edited by Drake Dracoli at 5:57 pm on Aug. 9, 2002)

Conghaileach
9th August 2002, 18:10
How can the speed of light/EM radiation be getting slower? It's not like it can get tired.

3.0 x 10^8 m/s is the speed of light through a vacuum. Maybe they believe light is being slowed because it must travel through matter.

I'm going to have to talk to my Physics teacher about this.

Conghaileach
9th August 2002, 18:13
Cool, that was 500.

bluerev002
10th August 2002, 01:32
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/07/...ain517850.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/07/tech/main517850.shtml)

peaccenicked
10th August 2002, 04:04
Einstein is not fundamentally wrong, what happens is questioning and development of his ideas.
Einstein goes into espitemological questions, as far as I can see the Heisenberg uncertainty principle presents limits to development that may not be escapable.
http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/p08c.htm

PunkRawker677
10th August 2002, 04:39
Peace. Care to translate that to english?

peaccenicked
10th August 2002, 05:12
I ll give it a shot. Einstiens theories are always under review by modern science, there is reports of conformation of proof of his predictions, 'curved space' has been given the run around but last I heard it had just been confirmed again.
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle which states uncertainty because the observer is part of the observed in atomic physics, has affected the arguments about the limits of kmowledge.(epistemology) The movement out of religion towards science by Bacon and Descartes is known as the ''epistemological turn''.
Anyhows, Einstein took the Heisenberg principle on board. It seems to me at some level of quantum mechanics there always be uncertainty and this in itself I would guess is a collarary or a fetter in developing theories open to proof.

Moskitto
10th August 2002, 15:33
I heard about E=mc^2 being wrong, but I heard a bit ago that his other well known equation (the one which he added and removed delta from after speaking with Hubble) had similar flaws due to the "flatness problem."

Sherief
12th August 2002, 20:41
I think the discrepancies are arising because some scientists are questioning whether light is a constant.

bluerev002
12th August 2002, 22:18
Quote: from Sherief on 8:41 pm on Aug. 12, 2002
I think the discrepancies are arising because some scientists are questioning whether light is a constant.

yah thats what this whole thing is about and how its slowing down over billions of years. they have said that light traveled much faster billions of years ago, its also been said that it may be possible for light to cross the galaxy in less than 100,000 years. dont know if its true though..................::sigh:: what wonders are held before us and yet how far away they are

Lefty
14th August 2002, 20:48
peacce, are you a mathematician?

peaccenicked
15th August 2002, 02:57
sometimes.

bluerev002
15th August 2002, 06:03
Quote: from peaccenicked on 2:57 am on Aug. 15, 2002
sometimes.

arent we alllllllllllllll