The line in the sand.

[1936]

I want to become an active letist. But its hard to know what actions would be considerd petty vandalism, and going to far.

I personally belive that there isnt much that can be considerd to far, but i am having trouble desiefering wether or not what ive done so far is a productive way of aiding the revolution (juveinal as that seems).

So far its been spray painting Che in the village my schools located in, and just being non-comformist as a way of sticking it to the man.

Is there anything more i can do that people can suggest, that i can pull of easily.

Thanks

[RASH chris]

Quite simply if you're talking about "furthering the revolution" then nothing would be "too far". Revolution is illegal. As long as you have a cause then it's never just vandalism. Putting a brick through the local starbucks isn't vandalism if you leave a flyer detailing why you did it. Firebombing the local mom and pop burger joint "because they exploit animals" or something would be much harder to justify. AIm for corporate giants and make sure it's clear why you did it. And just spraypainting a circle A probably isn't your best choice. Go with well placed and secured flyers and leaflets. Don't forget, wheatpaste can be the urban guerilla's best friend.

Try to avoid saying things like "aiding the revolution". As you stated, it sounds juvenile, makes people loose respect for you. Not to mention, there really isn't a revolution...yet.

*note to the feds, I do not promote or encourage any illegal action.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Organize. Form a close group of comrades, power is in numbers.

[gnat]

*note to the feds, I do not promote or encourage any illegal action.
I wonder if there are one or two FBI guys who monitor this site.

[RedLenin]

One or two? There are probably many. We openly talk about communism and revolution, both of which would be devastating to corporate America. The feds monitor this site closely, waiting for us to say something illegal.

As to what you can do, I would suggest (if your a student) joining the Socialist Students Coalition. http://www.revssc.com, and their forums (http://radicalus.6.forumer.com). Organize an afinity group at your school and take action. Hand out leaflets, debate with people, etc. Promote and educate. The first step towards liberation is education and organization.

[STI]

*note to the feds, I do not promote or encourage any illegal action.

Does that include revolution?

[rice349]

when it comes to revolution you have to be able to have total disregard for everything. Capitalists believe in waging something known as "total war." Communists have to realize they are not pacifists; therefore, any action that will cause severe economic (and sometimes personal) injury or damage is acceptable. Just think and plan ahead of time....

[Jesus Christ!]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 11:36 PM
Quite simply if you're talking about "furthering the revolution" then nothing would be "too far". Revolution is illegal. As long as you have a cause then it's never just vandalism. Putting a brick through the local starbucks isn't vandalism if you leave a flyer detailing why you did it. Firebombing the local mom and pop burger joint "because they exploit animals" or something would be much harder to justify. AIm for corporate giants and make sure it's clear why you did it. And just spraypainting a circle A probably isn't your best choice. Go with well placed and secured flyers and leaflets. Don't forget, wheatpaste can be the urban guerilla's best friend.

Try to avoid saying things like "aiding the revolution". As you stated, it sounds juvenile, makes people loose respect for you. Not to mention, there really isn't a revolution...yet.

*note to the feds, I do not promote or encourage any illegal action.
Actually Americans, which im assuming you are, legally have the right to overthrow the government if they don't see it as doing it's job and agreeing with it.

[Donnie]

Well..just spray stuff on the wall, although stuff that leaves people thinking, don't just spray "communism 4lyf" becuase they just think your a general rebel without a cause.

Read books and then find a good paragraph thats good, and try to summurise it in a couple of words (may seem hard to sumorise in a few words but its good when you pull it off on a wall)

A good one i have used is from the class war site (its a bit unoriginal, but it gets the point across)

"Tax the rich not the poor one solution class war!!"

Also try to organise your own lefty groups in school, and try protest/bycott out side McShit and other big corps!. :P

[workersunity]

the power of protest, just act in civil disobediance, and if need be, you can use violence, but make sure "innocents" wont get hurt, i would mark up the coke machines here on campus, but since im the only revolutionary and "radical" they would know its me

[workersunity]

Originally posted by Jesus Christ!@Mar 23 2005, 04:08 PM

Actually Americans, which im assuming you are, legally have the right to overthrow the government if they don't see it as doing it's job and agreeing with it.
ya its in the dec of independence, but the pigs will take it as something thats illegal, cause it threatens their stranglehold of power, and prosecute us for treason, or disrupting the peace, some bullshit like that

[1936]

But would you all consider mindless vandalism (spray painting pictures of che everywhere) or smashing a starbucks window, as productive actions in the overall goal of attaining the removal of capatilsm?

And violence to police? which hell is fun! but is it not giving the wrong impression of our cause?

[SureIsil]

Your right, to much violence will put us in a bad daylight.
The greatest thing we need to think about now, is not destroying the capitalistof facists, but making ourselves stronger. Getting more revolutionairs. Yes, indeed.
Propaganda.
So I totaly agree on painting Che everywhere. Or better, painting communistic philosofies on walls.
Blocking McShits and Coke-Machines is also good, but make sure your with an group.
For throwing rocks through windows, is the revolution still too young, at least where I live. (The netherlands) So it would have not much effect, and only give us a bad name

[barret]

If I were you guys, I would avoid the " throwing rocks through windows" approach. It seems childish and a waste of time. If anything, they'd probably say " It was probably some stoned teenagers who did this!". Instead, as previously mentioned, try propaganda, advertise all over the place about communisim, especcialy websites such as this one ( yet I still don't understand the idea of selling "Che based goods"). I myself don't have any friends who would take this serious enough, but I leave the computers on at the library at school on communist websites.