The Corporation

[gnat]

An Anarchist Christian acquaintence of mine:


If you have not seen you MUST see it and the screen it for every around . . . excellente.

Saw this first at an indy film theatre in NYC. DVD comes out in March. I do nto own but one DVD (Lord of the Rings: first film)...and own no TV, but I plan on geting a copy of this DVD the day it comes out. But I have to say...it owuld be worth the TV to show this film to people and have discussion. It is the best documentary in years....makes Michael moore look like a child as far as the level of analysis.

I personally haven't seen it.
The Corporation (http://www.thecorporation.com/)
Quicktime Trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/the_corporation.html)

[Exploited Class]

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[gnat]

huh?

[Jesus Christ!]

It looks really good and I really want to see it. I saw a trailer for it and a sign for it at the theatre that I saw Farenheit 911.

[workersunity]

I have the book but yet to read it

[LSD]

Yeah, I saw it, but then, you know, us outside of the US are still allowed to do such things...

Anyways, I do highly recommend you see it; Very good movie.

Not only politically but also technically.

[red_orchestra]

It makes perfect sense...and was honestly the most well balanced presentation I have seen in a long time! It just goes to show why we need to strive harder for Socialism!

[Sir Aunty Christ]

I saw it last night. The three words I'd use to describe it are: enlightening, frightening and inspirational. Elightening because It tells you how corporations think, frightening because it tells you how corporations think (and how they control so much) but also inspirational because I now want to get off my arse and do something about it.

[OleMarxco]

Such as what, o Anxious one? ;)
http://thecorporation.com/assets/home_apr23.jpg
Heck, the site even says..."What to do now?...
Reform (CHECK!)
Rewrite (CHECK!)
and
Regulate (CHECK!)
but what it forgets is the number one solution to it all,
that outshines all the other three......
REVOLUTION! (NOT CHECK!)

[Sir Aunty Christ]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 01:02 PM
Such as what, o Anxious one? ;)
I'm just saying that I've always been a passive revolutionary. But now I'm starting to think seriously about it.

[OleMarxco]

Riight. Great. How impressive...you found out why Capitalism's bad after all this time, eh? CONGRATULATIONS, now here's a rifle, go START IT, "passive revolutionary" (oxymoron!) allreadey! :P

[Mujer Libre]

It screened on SBS here in Australia. It was very good, and very unsettling. The psychoanalysis side of it, particularly. I think it was the recontextualising of the corporation that kind of wakes you up to it, and hopefully allowed people to think about them, rather than just accepting that corporations are "there."

Speaking of SBS, on the 14th of June they're screening another controversial doco, which looks like it could be interesting, and disturbing.

HOT DOCS - FOREIGNERS OUT!
In Austria's general election in the year 2000, Jörg Haider's extreme right Freedom Party (FPÖ) had met with widespread approval. And for the first time since World War II, a party of the extreme right joined the government. Never slow to react, infamous German director and performance artist Christoph Schlingensief soon retaliated with an extraordinary form of protest. As a tangible satire on xenophobia, Big Brother madness and new nationalism, Schlingensief decided to stage an interactive concentration camp, right at the heart of Vienna's picturesque tourist centre, in front of the Viennese Opera House. Schlingensief interned twelve actual refugee applicants in a large shipping container and streamed their life over the web for a week. As in any ‘reality TV' show like Big Brother, the audience was allowed to vote their least favourite player out of the compound and, in this case, out of the country! Crowned with a banner proclaiming the phrase ‘Ausländer Raus!' (‘Foreigners Out!'), the container became a national flashpoint. Austrians converged on the square and others logged on to the website to cast their ballots. As people of every stripe shed their demure exteriors and let fly their inner prejudices, it soon became the most contentious place in Austria, with knife attacks, punch-ups and riots all taking place before a world-wide audience over the web. This documentary follows this extraordinary sequence of events. (From Germany, in Germany, English subtitles)

[Sir Aunty Christ]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 02:59 PM
Riight. Great. How impressive...you found out why Capitalism's bad after all this time, eh? CONGRATULATIONS, now here's a rifle, go START IT, "passive revolutionary" (oxymoron!) allreadey! :P
Theoretical might've been a better word. You see, I'm disabled and can't use my arms properley so if I tried to use a rifle I'd probabably end up sending my brain into a revolution which which would end up all over a wall about 100 metres behind me.

:D

[Sir Aunty Christ]

Originally posted by Sir Aunty Christ+Jun 8 2005, 03:58 PM--> (Sir Aunty Christ @ Jun 8 2005, 03:58 PM)
[email protected] 8 2005, 02:59 PM
Riight. Great. How impressive...you found out why Capitalism's bad after all this time, eh? CONGRATULATIONS, now here's a rifle, go START IT, "passive revolutionary" (oxymoron!) allreadey! :P
Theoretical might've been a better word. You see, I'm disabled and can't use my arms properley so if I tried to use a rifle I'd probabably end up sending my brain into a revolution which which would end up all over a wall about 100 metres behind me.

:D [/b]
And obviously I can't hit the bloody keyboard properly.

Probabably!

:D

[Jawnnyh]

WoW.

Just saw it last night, A Must See. Simply indredible.
Well presented with lots of facts...Really makes u think...

now go out and see it!!!

[bunk]

Watched it this morning, i think this documentary is the sort that could politicise those who are neutral.

[JokingClown]

This documentary is really quite good. The information is outstanding, and possibly most important, presented in a way that most people can stand, and stay awake while watching. If you have the dvd, the second disc has over five hours of interviews, many of which are awesome, Noam Chomsky being one of my favorites.

I want someone to make a really good documentary that is funny and entertaining but has alot of good information about corporations, and globalization. The Corporation is very well done, better than nearly any movie ive seen on the subject, and in no way am I complaining about the information presented in the movie. I just want a movie that mainstream america would embrace, and enjoy watching. Kinda like Micheal Moore's movies, except with more substance.

The closest movie I can think of is Supersize Me, which is centered on McDonalds, but eludes often to the much larger problems in the world.

[Redvolution]

It looks absolutely dumbfounding.

I plan on buying it ASAP. Thank you :lol:

[Free Palestine]

Highly recommended. I didn't know it was in video stores, so I jumped at the opportunity to rent it. In short, the psychological disposition of a corporation is equal to that of a psychopath. Given that giant corporations are now in complete control of the United States, this bears note.

[Jesus Christ!]

I just rented it from Blockbuster. Really a well made and interesting movie.

[bunk]

US corporations help of Nazi Germany was spooky

[Jesus Christ!]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 04:45 PM
US corporations help of Nazi Germany was spooky
I thought the whole thing was pretty "spooky".

[Alaniara]

What I love about this documentary is that the conservative sections cannot find any kind of bias in it (unlike what they do with the Michael Moore documentaries) because it just throws hardcore truth and documentation onto the viewer, and even interviews people with opposing ideas. The result is obvious: be a cappie or a commie, a rightist or a leftist, a cow or a human, you are left with no other option than to agree with the truth . This is why an anti-thesis of this documentary is yet to come up.

The psychopathological analysis of the corporation is another thing which stands out in the entire thing. Just fabulous. And has the potential to get people into action.

Everyone should watch it, and spread the word!

[Vallegrande]

For the ones who have seen the corporation, is there any way to find the whole footage of Bolivian uprising over Coca Cola? The scene was so short, but I noticed the strength and bonding that the people had. The scene of the man whose son (or young brother) had died, and an entire community standing next to him, was a very strong image. I havent been able to find that footage except on the movie.

[rioters bloc]

just watched it tonight [finally - i love you sbs, the only decent tv station out there], really enjoyed it - like someone else said, it's not sensationalised or anything, its just telling it like it is. and i like that they interviewed people who actually did marketing for corporations and talked frankly about their unethical techniques.

i love watching these kinda docos on tv cos it means i can continue to slowly radicalise my parents ;)

[Lord Testicles]

I saw it the other day on more 4 i found it quite insparational.

[Enragé]

i liked the beginning

but then it started to get all reformist and interviewing michael moore

SO IT ANNOYED THE CRAP OUT OF ME












*ahem*

like the beginning though with the shit about bolivia

[Comrada J]

I saw it last night, it was pretty good might get it on DVD.

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by Komrad [email protected] 29 2005, 05:12 PM
I saw it last night, it was pretty good might get it on DVD.
you in aus as well?

or coincidence that you watched it the same night it aired here? ;) :P

[Noah]

I d/led it. It is very good it's over 2 hours long. Very interesting, answered alot of questions, need to watch it again to absorb more info form it.

RECOMENDED

[Bannockburn]

seen it, didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. It just simply put it in nice little pictures for me. However, there premises are generally wrong. They start that corporations have the legal status as personhood. the actions of this legal entity would amount to psychopathy. However, since the actions of the legal entity is psychologically insane, the result (like we do in court) the individual is not responsible for their actions, and therefore could never be found guilty of its crimes.

[bezdomni]

Brillant movie. We watched it in school (particularly - debate class). I have a lot of reason to believe that my teacher is an ex-marxist.

It would be great if Michael Moore could put out movies like this, instead of pseudo-propaganda. The facts obviously don't need to be bent.

I especially liked the part about corporations and their subsidiaries/affiliates. Like how disney owns a major part of the porn industry.

[Lenin II]

“The Corporation” is the latest left-wing, activist documentary, after anti-Bush “Fahrenheit 9/11” and anti-McDonalds “Super Size Me,” that can be seen at many cinemas. And it has much to recommend it. However, it has an obvious and glaring blind spot: it takes a form of capitalist business and sees in it all the problems that arise from a structure of society (capitalism) that it refuses to name.
The film's dominant narrative conceit is that corporations are legal persons that are psychotic: "It is self-interested, inherently amoral, callous and deceitful; it breaches social and legal standards to get its way; it does not suffer from guilt, yet it can mimic the human qualities of empathy, caring and altruism." Whilst this is an intriguing if legalist and ultimately meaningless accusation within a compelling documentary, it underscores the ultimately reactionary nature of the political economy of the film.

It is not any particular form of capitalist institution that should draw our ire, however interesting a brief history of it might be, but rather our attention should be directed to the form of society within which such institutions can thrive. If we do not have a critique of capitalism then all we have is an indignant, uncomprehending howl that understands a particularity without any understanding of the wider context in which it makes its appearance.

[Mujer Libre]

There are quite a few threads on this topic:
The Corporation, has anyone seen this documentary? (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=33873&hl=the+corporation)
Corporation, Documentary... (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=51496&hl=the+corporation)
"The Corporation" (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=29358&hl=the+corporation)
The Corporation, new flick. (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=26131&hl=the+corporation)

[Angry Young Man]

Mujer: Do you just look for threads whenever a new one's posted?
Bloody hell lucky you aren't the music mod! Imagine the RATM threads! I mean come on about 40% of the music forum's about RATM!

O and it was on channel 4. Missed it though :angry: bugger!

[Mujer Libre]

Originally posted by RR
Mujer: Do you just look for threads whenever a new one's posted?
Bloody hell lucky you aren't the music mod! Imagine the RATM threads! I mean come on about 40% of the music forum's about RATM!
Welllll... It makes sense, when something has been discussed quite a bit to either discuss it the old thread, or at least link them, because there's discussion there that the OP might be interested in?

Also, do we really need to be going over old ground all the time?

And this is only like the second time I've done this- basically because I remember a LOT of discussion on these two films...

Like... oh-noes... >.<

[Lenin II]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14, 2005 10:19 am
Watched it this morning, i think this documentary is the sort that could politicise those who are neutral.
“The Corporation” is the latest left-wing, activist documentary, after the anti-Bush “Fahrenheit 9/11” and anti-McDonalds “Super Size Me,” that can be seen at many cinemas. And it has much to recommend it. However, it has an obvious and glaring blind spot: it takes a form of capitalist business and sees in it all the problems that arise from a structure of society (capitalism) that it refuses to name.
The film&#39;s dominant narrative conceit is that corporations are legal persons that are psychotic: "It is self-interested, inherently amoral, callous and deceitful; it breaches social and legal standards to get its way; it does not suffer from guilt, yet it can mimic the human qualities of empathy, caring and altruism." Whilst this is an intriguing if legalist and ultimately meaningless accusation within a compelling documentary, it underscores the ultimately reactionary nature of the political economy of the film.

It is not any particular form of capitalist institution that should draw our ire, however interesting a brief history of it might be, but rather our attention should be directed to the form of society within which such institutions can thrive. If we do not have a critique of capitalism then all we have is an indignant, uncomprehending howl that understands a particularity without any understanding of the wider context in which it makes its appearance.

Very good, but I feel it missed the REAL point and ended up being a Democrat movie when it should have been a leftist movie. I still think everyone should see it.