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vox
7th August 2002, 01:06
This exchange is from last night's edition of "Crossfire," on which the far-right personality Ann Coulter is guest hosting:

COULTER: You people won't quit.

It's a given that teenagers and Democrats don't pay attention to what's going on around them, and don't think about the consequences of their actions.

A case in point: At the Pittsburgh Airport this weekend police say a Canadian teenager aboard a US Airways jet actually started flicking a cigarette lighter at his foot sneaker. His excuse was that he was just trying to burn off loose material on his shoe. The boy of Iranian descent was arrested.

Teenagers are taking lighters to their sneakers on airplanes, and the Democratic Party can't imagine why Bush might want to attack Saddam Hussein, a murderous fanatic developing weapons of mass destruction. Does anyone remember that we're at war? September 11 -- does that ring a bell?

BEGALA: Some teenager lights his sneakers on fire and its my party's fault?

COULTER: Why yes, it is.

Source (http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0208/05/cf.00.html)

Coulter, not known for much except her blonde hair, has the number one book in the country, Slander. It is, of course, filled with untruths, as the Daily Howler has pointed out over and over and over.

So it's not just the right-wingers on this board. I think this kind of "logic" is required for anyone to take the right-wing seriously in the first place.

vox

Nateddi
7th August 2002, 01:11
great post vox, you are one of the best

vox
7th August 2002, 01:31
Thanks! :)

By the way, American Kid has just said that he's going to give some quotes from you and James. This is in the SvC forum in the "Chit Chat" thread. It started out about Captalist Imperial, but he's decided to include the two of you as well. I do not know what he has in mind, but, considering who he is, I'm not sure it's to praise you.

Anyway, I thought you should be aware of it.

vox

canikickit
7th August 2002, 01:43
is this shit supposed to make sense/

vox
7th August 2002, 02:09
Canikickit,

Coulter is very popular on the right. This is the kind of logic that the right-wing accepts without question. I just thought that this was a perfect example.

If you want examples of Coulter's lies, which right-wingers swallow up and then post on boards like this one, go to the Daily Howler (http://www.dailyhowler.com/archives.shtml). Start at the bottom of the page and click on every link that mentions Coulter for examples of her reality-challenged ways.

I think sometimes people here think I'm too hard on the right-wingers. I'm not sure they understand the gravity of the situation. This woman has a best selling book that is designed to make people contemptuous of everyone to the left of her. This is what a lot of people truly believe. It all makes sense to them.

I think we have some people posting here that show the same "logic" that Coulter does. I wonder why?

vox

antieverything
7th August 2002, 03:45
Every argument of the right-wing is so easy to refute, its a wonder how they stay alive...and they say that liberals use their emotions and conservatives use logic!

I Will Deny You
8th August 2002, 03:48
[hr]BEGALA: We will start tonight, as we always do, with the best political briefing in television, our CROSSFIRE "Political Alert."

President Bush took a break from vacationing today to be with some of those Pennsylvania coal miners who were miraculously rescued recently. Basking in their heroic glow, our president used the phrase "the spirit of America" 11 times in his 13-minute talk.

Now, no one was impolite enough to ask President Bush if the spirit of America requires a 6 percent cut in the mine safety budget, as he has proposed. But if someone has, I imagine Bush would have said, you know, the spirit of America is self-reliance.

I'm sure those men would have clawed their way out of the ground without the government's help.

COULTER: Yes, I'm sure the spirit of America is another socialist program.[hr] BEGALA: I'd like to hook up Bush and ask him: Tell us again that that Cayman Island subsidiary you set up, that wasn't a tax shelter, was it?

COULTER: No one knows what you're talking about.[hr]She's a real winner.

Lindsay

(Edited by I Will Deny You at 10:48 pm on Aug. 7, 2002)

vox
8th August 2002, 04:13
She's a menace is what she is. That Daily Howler link I left shows her to be a liar whose book is made up of fabrications. Want more Coulter brilliance?

The Wit and Wisdom of Ann Coulter (http://www.athena-project.com/athena/profiles/documents/AnnCoulter/CoulterWisdom)
Ann Coutler: The Jargon Vanguard (http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20010716.html)
Even More Wit and Wisdom From Ann Coulter (http://www.americanpolitics.com/20020205Coulter.html) (which also features the game pick up Ann Coulter (http://www.pickupanncoulter.com/). I, being the politically savvy beast that I am, was able to score with Ann on the first try.)

Every lefty in the US should be exposing Ann Coulter for what she is: a liar. We have the goddamn PROOF.

vox



(Edited by vox at 11:16 pm on Aug. 7, 2002)

Supermodel
8th August 2002, 18:45
I've seen Ann Coulter on TV a few times and my mother in law gave me her book, Slander.

Now I have a college degree and all but I found her book unreadable. Sorry, it's full of words I've never seen before. I quit after the first chapter. She strikes me as a real zealot.

Maybe she is saying something quite funny and we just don't get it because her "wit" is so caustic in its delivery we think she is serious.

She is going to be marginalized if she doesn't pipe it down quite a bit.

vox
9th August 2002, 01:43
"She is going to be marginalized if she doesn't pipe it down quite a bit."

Maybe, but last night Chris Matthew had two segments with convicted criminal G. Gordon Liddy, who is part of the "liberal" media, and Matthews asked him a few times about what "ordinary people" think. Of course, Liddy's audience is not representative of "ordinary people," but of far right whackos.

The more bizarre it gets, the more the right-wing eats it up.

vox

antieverything
9th August 2002, 02:47
Damn...that ***** is hard to please! LOL!

Seriously, the right wing media is a joke...and people eat that shit up. Scary.

I Will Deny You
9th August 2002, 03:06
Quote: from vox on 8:43 pm on Aug. 8, 2002
Maybe, but last night Chris Matthew had two segments with convicted criminal G. Gordon Liddy, who is part of the "liberal" media, and Matthews asked him a few times about what "ordinary people" think. Of course, Liddy's audience is not representative of "ordinary people," but of far right whackos.You make it sound as if Chris Matthews would invite any old criminal on his show. Now I don't get CNN (that's the channel that Chris Matthews is on, right?) but I've got a feeling that he doesn't have pot smokers and gang members on his show very much. Is G. Gordon Liddy a criminal? Perhaps. But he's a criminal who fought communism, dammit!

I heard that everyone's interviewing Henry Kissinger, too. At least these guys aren't in Bush's anti-terrorism squad like some of their fellow terrorists . . . oops, I meant patriots.

Lindsay

Borincano
9th August 2002, 07:50
I've seen Katie Curit of NBC argue with Ann Coulter for having so much lies in her book and how Katie Curit proved it with quotes and all, but I don't know exactly the book "Slander" is about. Could anyone tell me? Thanks. :)

Edelweiss
9th August 2002, 12:13
Are the Democrats in the US really against the Iraq attack?

peaccenicked
9th August 2002, 12:36
There might be the odd dove.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/053000-103.htm but nothing came to my attention yet.

vox
9th August 2002, 15:03
Malte,

With the elections coming up, most Democrats seem to be very silent on the issue. The Senate committee hearing was largely a PR move in which people who support the attack were paraded in front of the media.

However, it's interesting to note that the far right House Majority leader, Dick Armey, who is retiring, has said that the attack would be illegal (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0809-08.htm).

vox