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Morgan
27th February 2005, 15:20
I 'm just on this forum for one reason, I would to tell something... I 'm really disguting to see these kind of website which pretends talk under the name of " Revolution" and uneder the picture of Che Guevara. A website who sell many products of the Che , scuse me but the che shouldn't be a commercial symbol, he has to stay a politic symbol!! and what was his message ? to fight against Imperiaslim, and what is Imperialism ? society based on cash, and what you do when you buy these Guevra products ? you thought like an typical capitalist human ! You pretends to be a " rebel " community, but you dont know what you talking about! Che guevara had many ideas, beautifuls ideas but unreals, the real communist mouvement has never exist, it was died with Karl marx. You want to be a revolution man ?! bullshits, a man ( or a woman ) who has never know the war, the situation,and the fact of killing humans,can't say " i'm for the revolution", just because he is against the system, it's just for the style ! The real spirit of Che Guevara is still "poor" country , countries which knows real difficulties with their governement and fight with Guevara ideas, a man as Commandante Marcos..
Me ? i'm just a girl of 17 years old who admires the Che because he was an idealist and an very intelligent man, and when I see all this buisness which is maked on him, im really afraid , it is totally against his convictions !

daviddelaserna
27th February 2005, 16:04
Finally someone who understands.. I agree totally, minus the whole no communist movement has existed, because history and ppolitics tell us that there has been Communist movements and there is.. so dont go to far.. PLus i agree 100% i was just goin to commen on the fact that underneath revolutionary left on the main page theres websites selling che merchandise for profit, as well as this theres,.. what really pissedmeof, whether it was controlled by the site or not.. "Be rich like the famous people".. now what the fuck is with this.. is this revolutionary left, actual conversations and talk between people with fellow ideas, or is this McDonalds lunch time chat .. i dont get it.. some peopel who actually believe in leftist views please respond.. because we need some peope in this forum for discussing ideas..

I joined this like 2-3 days ago and sure enough, already im seeing more and more false things.. whether it be wrong ideas about che, che merchandise, false ideas on communism or communists talking about the emmy awards.. What is wrong with everyone.. it seems no matter where you go noone is true..and for those who think che is some poster image fuck off.. im 100% sick of Che's image being expoited and sold through capitalist run companies.. its the total opposite of what he stood for .. so if youre a true communist, anarchist, or libertarian.. do us all a favor.. and SAVE CHE.. Do NOT buy any che merchandise..

Zingu
27th February 2005, 17:55
Hey, maybe if you really knew who the website owner is; you would change your mind. Malte, as far as I heard is a activist in Germany who has taken part of many antifa activitism. What the hell have you done?

Now, you just made a completely unsupported remark that he sells the che merchendise for "a profit". You have no proof of this and are in no posistion to say, ITS FOR KEEPING THE SITE AFLOAT. Malte has so much trouble enough funding it that he has to put up those google ads for pete's sake.

You've been here for 2-3 days and you are calling us all che wannabe kids eh? Trust me, you're really going to piss off some people in the CC here then. Take for example one of our members, redceltic, who is a activist for the IWW and is actually out there and FIGHTS FOR WORKERS' RIGHTS.

Seriously, critizing the forum and the site is a really bad way of introducing yourself.

bunk
27th February 2005, 17:57
This appparel is needed to keep the website running. Look deeper and you'll see that there are a lot of intelligent people who frequent these forums. Same for adverts.

daviddelaserna
28th February 2005, 01:08
i agree.. and i did start out on a bad foot criticizing, but as everyone elsehere i am human and my views can be very strict and i apologize to those who were offended. but i would like to know what people have to say, and who "owns" this.. and what the gig of this forum is..

unity comes first

and still man i dont only takl about the site.. im taking about in gewneral i use th site as a reference and what back up do you have of his money troubles.?

Livetrueordie
28th February 2005, 01:58
some peopel who actually believe in leftist views please respond.. because we need some peope in this forum for discussing ideas..
I don't think you realise there are other peaces to this forum, lounge is soley for introductions and just lose chat. There are -Politcs,Philosophy, Che, science etc.
Go to the index of the forum, if all this forum was was the jibber jabber that goes on here in the lounge i'd be pissed too. People usually only post in the lounge once or twice, the real confads go on elsewhere.

workersunity
28th February 2005, 06:25
theres a difference between an idiot going in to hot topic and buying a che shirt, and thinking hes a cuban (which he wasnt) and the people on this forum, who know who che was, and live out his dream, you are doing nothing for the movement except putting blame on peope