to james - your avatar i sick

[new democracy]

your avatar is sick!!!! i am not a fan of american imprealism but your avatar is too much!!!

[evil chris]

Why?

[new democracy]

because he say that america and nazism are the same

[James]

Oh a thread about me! I'm so proud!

Why is it sick?

Do you have any idea some of the stuff america has done?

Well i got the pic fromhere (http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/index.html#History). I'm sure you would agree blah blah blah blah.


P.S of course i don't think that America is as bad as Nazi Germany was (yet).

[James]

LOh yes, in case your thinking "He knows nothing about Nazism, and is comparing the two!" I do. I've studied it in school like most people have, and i've done my own extensive private studying.

[new democracy]

james you from britain right?

[evil chris]

It's just a symbol and as George Carlin said "I leave the symbols to the symbol minded"
If you want to get het up about it, thats your shout.

...But..when ya think about, the flag might just have a point.
Nazism maybe just alittle of the mark but the US State definately has some Fascist ideaologys.
Facsism is a policico-economic ideaology of a strong State combined with (or rather because of) Corporate Socialism.
It is a Nationalist Theory that requires a war footing to have any chance of success ,as it needs the individual to sumbit to the State and suspend crital thinking.Because of the percived threats to the Fascist nation, dissent and Democracy are 'legitimately' cracked down apon for 'national security'.The propganda machine goes into over-drive, to brainwash the tired masses so the State will not seem Authoritairn - people should, if the ministrys of Propaganda are doing there job, be happy to suspend their rights.Those that are not , live in a climtate of fear.
A secret police system further crushes dissent and makes trust and free assocation between indiuals impossible.
Economically Facism is the socialism of expsense and the privitsation of profit.The Government and corporations work in cahoots.The Government gets its cut for supporting this system and the corportation get all the benifits of few effective unions (crushed under the need to ' pull together for national security' ) and a passive ,brainwashed mass ( this brain washing incendly done, at profit, by a privetly owned media, it's veiws supported by a government which must promote those vaules for it's own security).

This a hurried and vauge outline of basic Fascism.The grand scale Facism of the 30's ,with big rallies and arm bands and what not is not really possible at the moment, the War still being a huge link for most people but arm yoursef with some understanding of the ideas of Facism and see if they apply to your and mine's Governments.

[James]

Thanks chris. Yes i do live in the UK ND.

[new democracy]

you cant say that some country that you dont live in it is practicly nazism!!! if you were an american your avatar was o.k because than you would talking about your country!!! how you would fill if someone do the same thing to the u.k?

[vox]

Congratulations, mole hill! You've been promoted to a mountain.

vox

[new democracy]

are you talking to me?

[James]

you cant say that some country that you dont live in it is practicly nazism!!! if you were an american your avatar was o.k because than you would talking about your country!!! how you would fill if someone do the same thing to the u.k?

Well read Chris' post. Then say you can't see the coincidences. Also, you want to do it to flag of saint george? Or maybe the union flag? Well go ahead. I really couldn't care less. Its mearly a flag.

[new democracy]

if you have no problems that someone else do the same thing to the u.k flag then what you do is ok. i am not going to do it but o.k.

[evil chris]

"you cant say that some country that you dont live in it is practicly nazism!!! "

what an absoulte absurdaity!
Why the fuck can't i call it how i see it.
By the by i'm *not* singling out the US here.Britain,France,Switzerland etc - all cyrpto-Fascist states.

"if you were an american your avatar was o.k because than you would talking about your country"

i don't regonise the boarders and bounderys.
All arbitary ,drawn up through war.Who can claim ownership of turf and on what authority.
With this in mind i regonsie no nationality.One race and one people.So everyone in the world is from my country, Earth.
I can and will comment on what is being inflected apon my brothers and sisters no matter what Geographical local they are at!
It would be entierly irrisponsable for me to do otherwise.

" you have no problems that someone else do the same thing to the u.k flag then what you do is ok."

I would enocourge it!
And we need more flag burning goddamit!


(Edited by evil chris at 4:10 pm on Aug. 6, 2002)

[new democracy]

evil chris, your right! now i am looking for an avatar that say the same thing james say about u.s.a, only instead of an american there would be the flag of my country(isral)!!!

[James]

Easy one that

http://www.subvertise.org/img_med/553.jpg


Its hard to find a good one of the union flag though, or of the saint george flag

[vox]

"are you talking to me?"

I was just commenting on the topic as a whole.

[new democracy]

thank you james