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cormacobear
26th February 2005, 06:13
Will last nights suicide attack on a Tel Aviv nightclub killing several Isreali youths, mean the end of peace talks betweenMahmoud Abbas and Ariel Sharon?

Incidently both sides are argueing for restraint, Hezbullah is pointing the finger at Islamic Jihad, and vice versa. Abbas has declared his intention to cooperate with Isreal in jointinvestigations and said he intends to use the Palestinian security forces to bring those responsible to justice..........So basicly the same old quaguemire or ist what do you think?

MeTaLhEaD
26th February 2005, 07:16
I think that attack was made by the same israeli fuckheads
that dont want peace and want to keep opressing palestinians with zionist power alot of stupid zionists dont want the pullout of the israeli forces from gaza setlementes


I also think the ones who are back of the killing of the former lebanise prime minister is ISRAEL and the zionists wanted Syria to be blamed for the attack

bunk
26th February 2005, 08:55
During the time between the peace deal Israel has continued killing palestinians. It just doesn't show up on the news.

cormacobear
26th February 2005, 23:59
Actually that must be palestinian propaghanda of you check even anti-Isreali pro palestinian news ources there haven't been any deaths attributed to Isreali forces since the 8th.

But it does appear Mertalhead is correct and the blame is being laid on Syria and Hezbullah. Syria of course denies this.

Since Syria is being blamed I suspect it was a CIA/Musahd plot to artificially rasie the level of threat Syria poses to the region making a future Isreali/ American invasion of Syria more pallatable.

Iepilei
27th February 2005, 01:13
In an HBO special entitled, Persona Non Grata, they interviewed Palestinian liberation militants who under black mask stated their claims. Along with a secular state they also insisted they would cooperate in full with the will of Arafat (alive at the time) should he ask them to lay down arms.

However, they stated that should Israeli forces provoke agression they would retaliate with full force. Meaning, of course, that no leader of Palestine will ever have complete control over the renegades in the area. As long as the Israelis keep prompting agression through hostile agendas, there will be conflict.

:ph34r:

Phalanx
28th February 2005, 00:24
Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 08:55 AM
During the time between the peace deal Israel has continued killing palestinians. It just doesn't show up on the news.
Yes it has. Go to BBC or try some other newssource. But the deaths were spread out longer than this bombing, so maybe that's why it didn't get as much airtime. But i highly doubt that this was any conspiracy. This was just another retalitation bombing created by the Palestinian militants.

Ele'ill
28th February 2005, 06:14
I unfortunatley do not have the source however the Tel Aviv bombing was an apparent retaliation against israeli aggression of some nature. Someone was killed, a house was bulldozed, a neighborhood was terrorized. Business as usual.

antiimperialist
28th February 2005, 07:31
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 06:14 AM
I unfortunatley do not have the source however the Tel Aviv bombing was an apparent retaliation against israeli aggression of some nature. Someone was killed, a house was bulldozed, a neighborhood was terrorized. Business as usual.
yep, Israel always kills the peace deals. The US and Israel have been the leading rejectionists on the Palestinian issue.

The Palestinians and the neighboring Arab nations have been willing to negotiate peace, but Israel does something to make peace impossible, then blames it on the Arabs, and refuses to negotiate.

The Arab regimes willingness to negotitate has been ignored in the US and the US media always makes it look as if it is the Palestinians who are always unwilling to negotiate.

dso79
28th February 2005, 16:47
Actually that must be palestinian propaghanda of you check even anti-Isreali pro palestinian news ources there haven't been any deaths attributed to Isreali forces since the 8th.

It's not propaganda. Israel has violated the ceasefire several times:

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/02/1711232.php

Ele'ill
28th February 2005, 19:21
My intention is not to discredit indymedia however their reports are not always accurate.

Intifada
28th February 2005, 19:24
A Palestinian man, of 20 years, died hours after he was wounded by gunfire from an illegal Gaza Jewish settlement, a day after the so-called "truce" was declared by both Abbas and Sharon.

Link (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/7622DAE0-3BFA-4F73-88C1-CD2BB1DCB859.htm)

Then, Israeli occupation forces shot and killed another Palestinian in Ram Allah.

Link (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/72A72EC3-EEE7-47B8-ACF2-6CDCB64F672D.htm)

On the 14th of February, Israeli forces shot and killed a 13 year old Palestinian boy, in Hebron.

Link (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/133CA257-CE27-40A9-AE43-426519E1302B.htm)

Two Palestinians were then shot and killed by Israeli Occupying Forces, near Nablus, on the 15th of February.

Link (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1654FF89-B62E-4D1E-BA35-B97157278C70.htm)

On the 20th of February, two Palestinians were shot and wounded by Israeli Occupying Forces, in the Gaza Strip.

Link (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/D686AA54-274D-4837-B9DE-25C88C7C11DB.htm)

The fact is that the Western media will not report, fully, these incidents, so when Palestinians retaliate it is seen by the naive public as "Palestinian terrorists" disrupting the "Peace-process."

Ele'ill
28th February 2005, 22:02
Aljazeera is a CNN sister station. I suppose they could on occasion be accurate.

Enragé
28th February 2005, 22:06
its as simple as this:

The Zionist Entity (israel) has NO right to exist, as long as it does, there will probably not be a lasting peace! Israel must be dismantled and placed under palestinian, democratic, secular rule. After all, the zionist entity's land is Palestinian.

Ele'ill
28th February 2005, 22:22
Israel must be dismantled and placed under palestinian, democratic, secular rule. After all, the zionist entity's land is Palestinian.

That will simply never happen. Maybe I didn't understand this clearly. The zionists land may belong to the palestinians, however the zionists themselves do not.

Phalanx
1st March 2005, 03:13
Which land are you talking about? The land inside Israel belongs to Jewish, Muslim, Druze and Christians, and the land in the occupied territories belong (disproportionately) to Jewish settlers, Muslims, and Christians. I completely disagree that Israel should be dismantled. However, there urgently needs to be a Palestinian state.