Is america going to attack iran?

[Red Robe Majere]

Is america going to attack iran? are we going on a crusade or something? did iraq not give them the oil they wanted?

[Hodgeh]

Yes, but not till June/early summer.

[antiimperialist]

Originally posted by Red Robe [email protected] 25 2005, 01:29 AM
Is america going to attack iran? are we going on a crusade or something? did iraq not give them the oil they wanted?
yes America WILL attack Iran. I am sure of it.

[Colombia]

And this is a problem how?

[Intifada]

US imperialism is not the answer to Islamic Fundamentalism, or for that matter, the development of nuclear weapons (Even though there is no proof that Iran is developing such weapons).

[monkeydust]

If they can get away with it, I expect they will. It remains to be seen if this will be the case, however.

There's also speculation that the US may intend first to take on Syria; it remains to be seen.

[codyvo]

With the increasingly worse situation in Iraq, all the protestors and no allies their won't be another war whether it be with Iran or Syria at least for a few more years.

[Mitch Flo]

It would be cool if the iraqi resistance joined forces with iran =D
even tho the odds of that happening are slim to none

[The Grapes of Wrath]

It would be cool if the iraqi resistance joined forces with iran
even tho the odds of that happening are slim to none

I hope not. I have friends over there. I want them to come home. The sooner the end to the conflict, the better.

And no, I do not think the US will invade Iran any time soon. That is a lot of money, and people will not stand for it again. Another "they have weapons" excuse will blow up in Bush's face. The army is spread too thin. There are not enough soldiers for two wars at once.

Almost half the soldiers there are reservists, they will not put up with being gone that long. The only way to push another war would be with draftees, and would take time to train and implement. Not to mention doing it is complete political suicide. If they drafted men for this war, the Republicans would not gain office again for decades.

TGOW

[MeTaLhEaD]

Originally posted by Mitch [email protected] 1 2005, 12:48 AM
It would be cool if the iraqi resistance joined forces with iran =D
even tho the odds of that happening are slim to none
I just hope The IRAKI resistance goes bigger and stronger
to inflict more casualties on the imperialist soldiers invasors


Go Iraki Resistance
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[JazzRemington]

Iran said that if Bush attacks, they're going to form a military alliance with Syria.

[Colombia]

Shouldn't religious nations be taken down first, then capitalist ones?

[colombiano]

tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock











only a matter of time







tick, tock,tick, tock,tick,tock

[Coughing up blood]

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But I found this article today on my daily news read and I thought it did indeed relate to this topic. A New Undeclared Arms Race (http://www.gnn.tv/articles/1219/New_Undeclared_Arms_Race)

The Philippines are ours! Teddy Roosevelt here we come!

[RevolutionaryLeftist]

once the conflict is over in Iraq, im sure that they'll plan an attack on Iran. as colombiano said, its only a matter of time.

[Bolshevist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 02:18 AM
Shouldn't religious nations be taken down first, then capitalist ones?
Not by imperialism.

[Latin America]

Something bad could happen! :(

[Colombia]

How would you propose to stop it then if not by capitalist imperialism?

[Bolshevist]

By the masses?

[Colombia]

Don't you think if that the masses no longer supported fundamentalism, they would have tried to overthrow it by now?

[Rebel For Life]

yes i think so and i found this clip and it has almost all the resons why i think they will SIGNALS! (http://www.ericblumrich.com/signals.html) watch it it has some good points ;)

[MKS]

I think the Masses in Iran would prefer self determination to American "guidance" to "Democracy".

Also I dont think America will attack Iran, they're too strong. America like to attack only the weakest nations. Like Iraq, Nicaraqua, Colombia, etc..

[codyvo]

We will probably go into Syria before we go into Iran, for a few reasons, 1-Syria is a much smaller and weaker country than Iran, 2-We do have a tiny bit of justification for this war, the invasion of Lebanon, 3-Syria has more oil than Iran.

[MKS]

There is no justification for invasion of Syria. If their occupation of Lebanon is a cause for invasion then you could say America should be invaded for their occupation and annexation of Puerto Rico. Syria occupied Lebanon to stop the civil war that claimed thousands of lives and destablized the region. Is America the only nation allowed to act against other nations?

[Rebel For Life]

Well it depends where we... or should i say they, will attack next for if Fidel dies well we are going into Cuba and iran is so-so powerfull but the u.s is under a man who has no brains at all but bush is the pupit and cheney is the pupitier so, i dont know we will have to wait and see or do the better way start a REVOLUCION!
o and cody Syria has more oil then Iraq but we chose to invade Iraq... also they have "resones" to go it to Iran
1.) they are produseing nukclear wepons (this is what bush says)
2.) they have oil... and a country with eny amount of oil is where bush will go <_<
3.) they are not cristchans (thats a good enofe resone for bush)
these are just my thoughts not my beleefs ;), but it dose depend on what happens in the crazy home we call Erath

P.S.: i dont cpitalise the u.s. for what it is right now

[lostsoul]

America cannot attack anyone until the situation in iraq has calmed down. For america to attack Iran they would have to completely withdraw from other area&#39;s of the world(not sure if thats likely).

America doesn&#39;t have a massive army. For example, if 1000 chinese soliders are killed, it&#39;ll probally make like 20th page of a newspaper..but kill 10 americian soliders and it&#39;ll be front page. I don&#39;t belive this is totally because America controls the media, I think they just don&#39;t have the numbers. Killing 10 americian soliders is worst to america, then 1000 chinese soliders dying is to china(in an army sense..techicially any loss of life is tragic).

I also think this is why north korea doesn&#39;t bow down to them, because they know america cannot and will not attack them. I think as long as there are threats in area where they are stationed, they won&#39;t be able to mobilise alot of troops.

[1936]

The question is not wether the U&#036; will attack iran. The question is when.

[Prol]

The US will invade Iran, it&#39;s just a matter of when. Having said that I personally would like to see Iran get invaded by the US.

Now before you start hurling abuse at me hear me out.

The US invades Iran (and Syria as they have a defence pact), destroyes religious fundamentalists, kills yankee soldiers, replaces government with yankee puppet state, guerilla warfare breaks out, perfect time for communists to throw out yankee impirialists and take the country.

The invasion will create much better chances for communism than there is under the current government.

[Colombia]

Exactly what I&#39;ve been saying Prol. This is how it should be done. LEt them kill each others off and then move in for the kill.

[iffiness]

I dont think you could ever have a communist country in Iran because communism does not go with religion. Russia attempted to take over afganistan and make them communist and it was the equvilent to americas vietnam because the religious beliefs brought conflict with the communist beliefs. it would take generations of kids to go before you can talk of a communist state in Iran or anywhere in the middle east. America on the otherhand may invade Iran but it depends on the foreign policy that America has in 10 years time because it will take 10 years for american people to get over the failure of Iraq. To me an American invasion of Iran would be a scray thing it would pit probably the most powerful middle eastern copuntry who will fight to the death and who will fight for their god against a country and people fighting for money. My money would be on Iran in a long drawn out war which would furhter weaken America and make them readjust their foriegn policy and may even lose their super power status.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 12:05 PM
Having said that I personally would like to see Iran get invaded by the US.

The US invades Iran (and Syria as they have a defence pact), destroyes religious fundamentalists, kills yankee soldiers, replaces government with yankee puppet state, guerilla warfare breaks out, perfect time for communists to throw out yankee impirialists and take the country.

The invasion will create much better chances for communism than there is under the current government.
Well, in some ways I agree but your scenario is very incomplete. I would like to see the US attack far too many places and weaken the governments PR by not being able to justify the invasions while showing fully the disregard they hold for the US public, effectively weakening them all around.

Then the people of the US could take down the governing structure and the forces weakened abroad would disband and the forces of the US would be recalled as the people of the US actually start to provide aid for other countries. Next the US could develop from revolution to some sort of socialist stage > a classless society...

Best possible outcome... :hammer: let us cross our fingers (no, I don&#39;t believe in luck :P).

I would like to see the US stretched too far but what is the possibility?

[Asmoo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2005, 10:24 AM
I dont think you could ever have a communist country in Iran because communism does not go with religion. Russia attempted to take over afganistan and make them communist and it was the equvilent to americas vietnam because the religious beliefs brought conflict with the communist beliefs. it would take generations of kids to go before you can talk of a communist state in Iran or anywhere in the middle east...
First my reply to iffines:

Communism does not go with religion? Well this is not quite right, but let&#39;s leave it how it is. What seems more important to me is to put straight that Iranian people are not fundementalists and that the Islamic Republic of Iran is not like Afghanistan (Taliban) and certainly not comparable to othe countries in the middle east. Forget about religion because religion for the people over there is just like christianity in western countries. What is more important is that Iran is a capitalist country and by capitalist I mean very very capitalist. So it is very clear that we do have a workers movement in Iran, supported by the so called Tudeh Party (communist).

Secondly...

No the USA won&#39;t start a war against Iran - not now.

1. Iran has got military treaties with Russia and China
2. Iran has great infuence on Shiite population in Iraq and Afghanistan that could cause America a lot of problems
3. technically it is impossible to destroy all Iranian nuclear power plants (officially it is about nuclear weapons but it is just a false pretence) because they are all scattered over the country
4. Iran is not Iraq. Iran can defend itself. It has got missiles that can reach Israel and America wouldn&#39;t risk that.
5. America knows that it would cost a regional conflict and I am not talking about the chaos in Iraq. It will affect the whole middle-east&#33; A disaster of unpredictable damage.

America can only attack Iran when they finished constructing middle-east, just like they are doing now. --&#62; see "Greater Middle East" That means to encircle and isolate Iran from Syria, Lebanon and Hisbollah. So when these conditions have been fulfilled there is nothing in their way to stop them from attacking Iran. Who can stop them from committing another crime against humanity?

Tudeh Party&#39;s Appeal against US interference (http://www.redglobe.de/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4115)

[Intifada]

Iran is too strong for the over-stretched Americans to "deal with", for now.

Bush will target Syria first, as it is weaker and very crucial in the long-term vision the neo-cons have for the region as a whole.

[viva le revolution]

Of course America is going to attack Iran. Imperialists throughout the world have not been able to accept criticism.they surround themselves in a shroud of self-righteousness. Through this they are able to fool the states&#39; proletariat and their own consciousness(even Rome embarked on conquests under the guise of spreading civilization, in this case it is spreading democracy). The american warmachine has continuously been on the roll eversince world war 2. It would be foolish to think that the modern day imperialists would stop just because the people say so&#33; For the empire is not founded on the people, it is founded on the oligarchy&#33;
The imperialist dare not defy the oligarh,god forbid his campaign fund runs dry&#33;
The American arms inustry is producing weapons for a reason, the purveyors of death will not allow peace otherwise they shall have to sell the learjet their behinds are so comfrtable in.
America has already violated a country on the basis of rumours of weapons of mass destruction(apparently only countries that win the favour of the imperialist has the right to defend his country the rest are terrorists), if it does not violate another who has admitted to possessing that technology it would an embarrassment the imperialist cannot tolerate.anyways it means more business and dollars for the purveyors of death&#33;

[DISTURBEDrbl911]

it is inevitable...the us will attack iran, not sure when..not sure why...not sure how...only sure who

[resisting arrest with violence]

If they attack Iran then they are insane. Damn it man, what is the world coming to&#33;


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[MiniOswald]

hmmmm its a tricky one, i mean some people might have said that they wouldnt invade iraq at first because the iraqi&#39;s would &#39;fight for their god&#39;, those that did in the war got slaughtered, it was obvious they couldnt win. Hmmm as for Iran, they&#39;re certainly prepared for war, If someone could find that article about the journalists being let into the nuclear facility that is underground, i think its on bbc news site, that mentions that theres a string of AA guns on the way to the facility.

No doubt america could win and i cant see it &#39;firing up&#39; the middle east too much, call me cynical but i see no real brotherhood among the arabs, look at the saudi&#39;s, they&#39;ve got america by the balls, financially, they could force america to help the arabs with their power, do they? do they fuck...., and the other arab states are too weak to fight on, if they weren&#39;t then they&#39;d be fighting israel but hey there ya go. So america could invade Iran but it will be heavily criticised, but what does that matter, not like we can stop them anyways. As for communism and religion, yups no mix, they all kerazy for religion over there and thats all they want, so our chances are down.

So i cant really tell if they will invade or not, it&#39;ll cause alot of problems once they do, but i cant deny that they couldnt sell it to the american public, i mean they dont have to find WMD this time, just factories that mean it could have been made

[Asmoo]

Iranian people are not arabs&#33;&#33;&#33; It is about religion dude&#33;&#33;&#33; They are shiites&#33;&#33;&#33; Just read my post again...

[MiniOswald]

Im not too sure it would cause the shiites in other countries to get pissy either, or if they did i couldnt see their effect being too major. As for the military treaties I guess that could cause problems or at least raise the backlash, after all it was Russia who upon hearing of americas desires to shut down irans nuclear capabilities sent a shit load of scientists in to aid with the nuclear production.

Its also true that iran could put up a better fight than iraq did, ive got no doubt that US and UK (as we&#39;ll probably be dragged along) could beat iran but with the way people react to around 10 marines dying the losses might be too bad for america, or at least the administrations appearance

[iffiness]

Communism does not go with religion. NOt quite true. I know you wont go their but i dont understand, tell me one system of communism that acceptes religion and doesnt try to dismantle its power. I am also pretty sure marx says it somehwere that race religion will be abloished in a communist state. He belives that it is a way that the bourgeosis make workers do work by offering them the hope of heaven and god. Now i am pretty sure communism doesnt go with religion and if they do have communist party it wouldnt be very successful in a religious based society. Mate when a person wakes up 5 in the morning to pray and prays 3 times a day opposed to goin to church once a week. when u eat twice a day cause you are fasting.I think the islamic religion is a little different to christianity and i think the importance of islam is a little different to the importance of christianty in our society. Its very different concpet religion in their society very different to the concept of religion in our society. mmmm you really need to meet some muslims because its very different let me tell you very different. yes they are captialists and i cant see their oil barrens changing that. COMMUNIST REVOLUTION IN IRAN I DONT THINK SO. i could get into it more but like seriously their is no chance of a communist revolution in Iran or in any other middle eastern country. You see for me i belive strongly in the idea of Marx&#39;s social critque of capitalism, he claims it boom and bust. at this point in time we are going through boom period where in most capitlaist western countries things look rosey but their will be a bust and when that happens they will look to invent a different system. Until then you are not going to be able to change happy capitalists into communists maybe unhappy capitalists though