They came for me

[CommieBastard]

many of you may know of the quote from Reverand Martin Niemoller, well here's my version.

"First they came for the Capitalists,
and I spoke up,
Then they came for EI,
and I spoke up,
Then they came for me,
and I was silenced."

Some of you may be aware that several of my posts have been shut down without any reasons given, and that I have been restricted from the FF with the reason given that I 'butt heads with people'. Now whilst the person who restricted me might be able to explain exactly what this means in some other terms, it seems to me almost certain that this equates to 'too many people who are prominent members don't like you or your opinions'.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not moaning that people don't like me. This can be expected in life, and anyone who doesn't expect it is a fool.
But that these pretentious people clothe their hatred in the language of board rules is a joke, that does a disservice to the whole community and those very same board rules that regulate it. Stop fucking with other people, try finding fuel for your righteous indignation from Capitalism and the Capitalist system.

As far as I am aware I have broken no rules to warrant these actions, either the closed threads or the restriction.
For some reason some people do not see fit to give explanations for their actions so that they can be held accountable.

[Guest1]

Cb.

I warned you before.

I don't care "who started it", I don't care who's right or wrong. When you start shouting that there's a conspiracy and we're fascists, you need a break.

You'll be back in two days.

Take it easy, then we can have a regular, calm discussion when you get back.

Till then, you're taking this way too seriously, and flipping out. Take a breath.

[CommieBastard]

Sorry, I started shouting that there was a conspiracy? where? I started shouting that you are fascists? where?
I merely paraphrased someone else, and my paraphrase is literally true. You are the one drawing the connection to Fascism.
Do you think that doing those things makes you a Fascist? I don't, i think you're just making a serious error without the intent that fascists have. I am trying to point this out.

As for calm discussion, as i have stated, and as you could easily have noticed had you looked at my posts, I was a lot calmer.

In what way am i taking it 'too seriously'? I have made plain and simple observations and comments, I have taken no offence, nor am I angry at any of the people involved. I reserve my hatred for circumstances and systems, not the people trapped in them.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Dude, just calm down. Take a deep breath and realize what you are doing "First they came for the Capitalists,"

[CommieBastard]

I am refering to long ago when I opposed the creation of Opposing Ideologies

[Edelweiss]

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorsh...withoutclue.htm (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/rebelwithoutclue.htm)

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 06:40 PM
As far as I am aware I have broken no rules to warrant these actions, either the closed threads or the restriction.
For some reason some people do not see fit to give explanations for their actions so that they can be held accountable.
What do you call a man with a seagul on his head.....?





Cliff

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 07:49 PM
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorsh...withoutclue.htm (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/rebelwithoutclue.htm)
That's fucking classic!! :lol:

[CommieBastard]

Rebel Without a Clue's deep seated and infantile hostility to authority motivates his random and seemingly gratuitous attacks on list owners, Admins, Nannies or anyone else who attempts to maintain order and civility in discussion forums.

I have made few attacks on the people themselves in these positions, and those that I have I have apologised for.
You are getting confused between the people, and their position. I have made plenty of statements in which I have attacked the way this board is organised, this includes the selection process for moderators. Some moderators may feel this is an attack on them. This, i think, is a sign that they feel insecure and have to push forward as much protection for their position as they can. It is pathetic.


Differing markedly from Rebel Leader, he is unattached to any cause other than petulance for its own sake, and will therefore seldom inspire general insurrection.

I have given my reasons for the arguments against the current system, so how you have the gall to suggest it is petulance for it's own sake I do not know. Try meeting what I've actually said, instead of just resorting to shutting me up.

What is more, I have never made it my aim to inspire any kind of insurrection, and I would be interested to know what gave you this impression?


In his frequent and ineffectual attacks on the established order he will often cite the Bible, or the US Constitution to support incoherent arguments. Rebel Without a Clue NEVER reads forum FAQs , and loudly decries as fascism any enforcement whatsoever of forum rules.

Again, please point me to anywhere I have decried anything as fascism.
You may think I attack 'enforcement whatsoever of forum rules', but I think you'll find that I only attack a very specific set of forum rules. Namely those concerned with the reduction and elevation of status within the community, whether it be restriction and bannig, or the purely administrative status of moderating and adminstering.

If you look at the posts made, you can see that I made a request. When this request was met with vitriole, i initially reacted with similar vitriole, then calmed down and gave you reasoned arguments for my position.

I would like to reiterate one of the points I made in those arguments:
Either put up or shut up.
Either tell me why you think my arguments are wrong and then act, or do nothing.
Don't get me wrong, you can act without giving reasons, but I would like to believe that anyone with half a brain can see what's going on when that happens.

[CommieBastard]

tat, you may find this one interesting
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/admin.htm

particularly "but the adage that absolute power corrupts absolutely is as true on the internet as it is anywhere else, and it is a rare Admin who can resist bringing the hammer down if seriously pressed by a determined foe"

[Guest1]

You're being asked to do one thing and one thing only.

Calm down, drop this issue, for two days.

Then, you will be reinstated into the FF, and you can pick up wher eyou left off with the issues you had, and do it in a civilized manner, and everyone else will have calmed down too.

I don't care about the arguments you guys were having, I don't give a fuck about what happened, and I won't be involved in the discussion when you get back.

All I care about is that you still can't take a break.

This is your time-out.

So take your time-out, and come back in two days. Meanwhile, there's a whole board out there, not just the FF.

There will be no further discussion of this shit till you come back in the FF. You are being ignored, because you are throwing a tantrum.

And just in case you're gonna post something asking me to explain myself one more time, when someone says that to you, you walk away. You let yourself cool down.

So don't go on with your tantrum, or I'll have to close this thread and let other admins deal with you. And they're not as patient as I am with this stuff.

[CommieBastard]

Malte, you may want to see this one

Sycophant and other suckups will also attach themselves to a strong Admin to form a defensive perimeter around him, and more often than not Admin's enemies will be driven off without him ever having to brandish his ax.

in this case Revleft has a bunch of sycophant admins surrounding Malte, who themselves have a bunch of sycophants.
The sad thing is that with the sycophants having the power of an admin, it leaves them able to interpret their idol's will in any way they please, especially with an idol who is not a major and present force.

[CommieBastard]

Originally posted by Che y [email protected] 23 2005, 07:35 PM
You're being asked to do one thing and one thing only.

Calm down, drop this issue, for two days.

Then, you will be reinstated into the FF, and you can pick up wher eyou left off with the issues you had, and do it in a civilized manner, and everyone else will have calmed down too.

I don't care about the arguments you guys were having, I don't give a fuck about what happened, and I won't be involved in the discussion when you get back.

All I care about is that you still can't take a break.

This is your time-out.

So take your time-out, and come back in two days. Meanwhile, there's a whole board out there, not just the FF.

There will be no further discussion of this shit till you come back in the FF. You are being ignored, because you are throwing a tantrum.

And just in case you're gonna post something asking me to explain myself one more time, when someone says that to you, you walk away. You let yourself cool down.

So don't go on with your tantrum, or I'll have to close this thread and let other admins deal with you. And they're not as patient as I am with this stuff.
what exactly do you mean by a tantrum CyM?
I really don't consider posting coherent reasoned arguments a tantrum.
Also though, I think you have a very specific reason for choosing the word tantrum.
It is because it is disparaging.
You, and the other mods and admins, feel free to make personal attacks on the members of this board whilst decrying any instance of the members doing this.

Live by your own rules.

Do remember, that before you're asking me to take a break (something I wouldn't normally mind), there had been other disciplinary actions taken against me, namely the closing of threads.
In the context of a repeated attack against any attempt by me to discuss things calmly with you, what do you expect?

[CommieBastard]

You know Malte, that site you linked makes for very interesting reading. I think everyone would benefit from reading it.
All people are prone to adopting the stances of those 'archetypes' at times, depending on the way they feel.
There is a remarkable amount of ferrous cranus on this board, esp. in the FF.

[Guest1]

Wow, CommieBastard, you&#39;re not predictable at all, I swear <_<

See you in two days.