Vegan Diets Dangerous for Kids

[redstar2000]

Children 'harmed' by vegan diets

Putting children on strict vegan diets is "unethical" and could harm their development, a US scientist has argued.

Lindsay Allen, of the US Agricultural Research Service, attacked parents who insisted their children lived by the maxim "meat is murder".

Animal source foods have some nutrients not found anywhere else, she told a Washington science conference.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/health/4282257.stm

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[comrade_mufasa]

I would think this could be true becouse there is not plant that can give you a whole proten. This is only found in meat. Then again I would not know much on the subject.

[SpeCtrE]

I'm going to show this to my brother,.... Hahahahahahahaha

[Ceridwen]

Yeah, of course you need meat. :rolleyes: We all know animals/humans who are herbivores are not healthy. Tell the gorillas that (they're vegan). Come on! Have those people heard about unsaturated protein (which is a lot better than saturated) which comes from nuts and plant oil.


Putting children on strict vegan diets is "unethical"
And supporting animal slaughter isn't?

[seraphim]

I think vegan diets are bad for everybody

[dso79]

I would think this could be true becouse there is not plant that can give you a whole proten. This is only found in meat.

You definitely don’t need meat, you can easily get enough proteins (and other nutrients) from other sources, though if you’re on a strict vegan diet you do need to supplement some nutrients, such as vitamin B12. But as long as such supplements are available, there is nothing unethical about a vegan diet.


Have those people heard about unsaturated protein (which is a lot better than saturated) which comes from nuts and plant oil.

As far as I know there is no protein in oil. Don’t you mean unsaturated fat?

[comrade_mufasa]

You definitely don’t need meat, you can easily get enough proteins (and other nutrients) from other sources, though if you’re on a strict vegan diet you do need to supplement some nutrients, such as vitamin B12. But as long as such supplements are available, there is nothing unethical about a vegan diet.While you dont need meat you do need whole proten which can only be found in meat and supplements. I dont think that a strict vegan diet is good for a young childs healt becouse then they will not be getting much calcium, but just saying no meat is fine. unethical? :rolleyes: There is diffenetly nothing unethical about a vegan diet.


Tell the gorillas that (they're vegan).
No they are not. I have seen them eat insects.

My only problem with vegan diets is that you needs to take some supplement to have a complete diet. I dont like the idea of have to by powder and pills to keep myself healthy.

[Urban Rubble]

And supporting animal slaughter isn't?

Being concerned with Animal Rights to the point where you neglect human rights IS unethical.

Any leftist should understand this very basic concept: Animal cruelty is a problem of Capitalism, if the factory owners would sacrifice a portion of their profits these animals could be raised and killed in a much more humane manner.

There is NO basis to the fact that killing an animal for sustinence (sp?) is wrong. For most species, eating meat is the most natural thing that exists other than breathing. I agree with you that the way we torture our animals is wrong, and I agree that humans eat FAR too much meat, but to say the practice of (responsibly) eating a little meat is "unethical" is beyond idiotic. It is the most natrual thing in the world.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

I suppose my post in this thread was deleted when the server was on-the-fritz for the umpteenth time . . .

All this study shows is that a diet including meat is preferable to a lousy vegan diet. However, in modern industrialized countries, this is irrelevent because all of the necessary protiens, minerals, and essential acids can be obtained from non-animal sources.
It would certainly be wrong to demand that those who do not have access to proper vegan diets become vegan . . . but to suggest that a vegan diet, contrary to much reliable research suggesting quite the opposite is just, well, stupid.

[ComradeChris]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 03:33 PM

You definitely don’t need meat, you can easily get enough proteins (and other nutrients) from other sources, though if you’re on a strict vegan diet you do need to supplement some nutrients, such as vitamin B12. But as long as such supplements are available, there is nothing unethical about a vegan diet.While you dont need meat you do need whole proten which can only be found in meat and supplements. I dont think that a strict vegan diet is good for a young childs healt becouse then they will not be getting much calcium, but just saying no meat is fine. unethical? :rolleyes: There is diffenetly nothing unethical about a vegan diet.
Thing is, humans always haven't drank milk from another animal's tit. In fact before the domestication of animals, humans only drank milk from their mother (like almost all other land mammals) until they complete the "infant" stage. What I want to know is: who came up with the idea one day, "Hmm, I think I'm going to milk that animal and drink its milk?" It's almost an odd concept.

[comrade_mufasa]

Originally posted by ComradeChris+Feb 24 2005, 10:19 AM--> (ComradeChris @ Feb 24 2005, 10:19 AM)
[email protected] 23 2005, 03:33 PM

You definitely don’t need meat, you can easily get enough proteins (and other nutrients) from other sources, though if you’re on a strict vegan diet you do need to supplement some nutrients, such as vitamin B12. But as long as such supplements are available, there is nothing unethical about a vegan diet.While you dont need meat you do need whole proten which can only be found in meat and supplements. I dont think that a strict vegan diet is good for a young childs healt becouse then they will not be getting much calcium, but just saying no meat is fine. unethical? :rolleyes: There is diffenetly nothing unethical about a vegan diet.
Thing is, humans always haven't drank milk from another animal's tit. In fact before the domestication of animals, humans only drank milk from their mother (like almost all other land mammals) until they complete the "infant" stage. What I want to know is: who came up with the idea one day, "Hmm, I think I'm going to milk that animal and drink its milk?" It's almost an odd concept. [/b]
Before humans drank milk we would break the bones of animales and eat the marrow. This is what gave us our calcium.

[pedro san pedro]

What I want to know is: who came up with the idea one day, "Hmm, I think I'm going to milk that animal and drink its milk?" It's almost an odd concept.

Yeah, makes you wonder who figured out that you could get milk from a cow - and what they were actually trying to do at the time :D

[ComradeChris]

Originally posted by comrade_mufasa+Feb 24 2005, 04:40 PM--> (comrade_mufasa @ Feb 24 2005, 04:40 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 10:19 AM

[email protected] 23 2005, 03:33 PM

You definitely don’t need meat, you can easily get enough proteins (and other nutrients) from other sources, though if you’re on a strict vegan diet you do need to supplement some nutrients, such as vitamin B12. But as long as such supplements are available, there is nothing unethical about a vegan diet.While you dont need meat you do need whole proten which can only be found in meat and supplements. I dont think that a strict vegan diet is good for a young childs healt becouse then they will not be getting much calcium, but just saying no meat is fine. unethical? :rolleyes: There is diffenetly nothing unethical about a vegan diet.
Thing is, humans always haven't drank milk from another animal's tit. In fact before the domestication of animals, humans only drank milk from their mother (like almost all other land mammals) until they complete the "infant" stage. What I want to know is: who came up with the idea one day, "Hmm, I think I'm going to milk that animal and drink its milk?" It's almost an odd concept.
Before humans drank milk we would break the bones of animales and eat the marrow. This is what gave us our calcium. [/b]

Green leafy vegetables such as broccoli, collards, kale, mustard greens, turnip greens, and bok choy or Chinese cabbage are good sources of calcium. Certain green vegetables are less effective sources of calcium. While their calcium content appears to be high, their fiber and oxalic acid content interferes with the absorption of calcium.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002412.htm

You can get pretty much all minerals required from life strictly from plants. I think there were only a couple vitamins listed already that you couldn't.


Yeah, makes you wonder who figured out that you could get milk from a cow - and what they were actually trying to do at the time

My sentiments exactly :lol: . I think it was a species confused person :P .

[RiskyRhonda]

getting on the topic of vegen people thinking that if they dont eat meat they arent killing animals their wrong. All those little animals that make their homes in the grain fields, what do you think happens to them when the harvester comes around.