Logic versus abstract philosophy

[Palmares]

Philosophy is often thought to be an area of study that encourages open-mindedness, to explore the different possibilities available to a given proposition. However, when I look at philosophy I do not see this to be necessarily true, as one’s views would inevitably fit into the field of limited possibilities, logic, and seemingly infinite possibilities with abstract philosophy.

As I read and study philosophy more, I find that logic dictates so much, and that much abstract philosophy is viewed as a “waste of time”.

Is logic “better” than abstract philosophy?

Why does logic dominate philosophy more than abstract philosophy? Is it a result of the influence of science?

Do you view your own views more in logic philosophy or abstract?

:huh:

[Monty Cantsin]

Before I answer this I’d like you to explain the division between abstract and logic based philosophy. For example do you view philosophy based on a priori as abstract and empirical based philosophy based on logic?

[Palmares]

That is an interesting point you have risen. I didn't actually think about it.

But I would tend to agree with your loose proposition for the sake of the argument.

[encephalon]

logic returns a certain true or false, or no answer. Abstract philosophy does not. In this, logic is more tangible and readily useful.

[Trissy]

I feel that logic is an abstract philosophy! I dislike all logic (in the sense of the field studied by people like Russell and Frege) because it is cold and irrelevant to nearly all of our lives. I prefer philosophy in way Kierkegaard and Nietzsche practised...namely all philosophy grounded in life and not in the false worlds of the Rationalists and Logical Philosophers.

[Roses in the Hospital]

Although it sounds like a contradiction in terms, even logical propositions are open to debate. If they wern't all of the problems of Philosophy would have been solved centuries ago using logical thought...

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2005, 07:05 PM
I feel that logic is an abstract philosophy! I dislike all logic (in the sense of the field studied by people like Russell and Frege) because it is cold and irrelevant to nearly all of our lives. I prefer philosophy in way Kierkegaard and Nietzsche practised...namely all philosophy grounded in life and not in the false worlds of the Rationalists and Logical Philosophers.

I was always of that opinion until recently, but I am changing although my interest in Continental Philosophy I realise people like Wittgenstein have lots of good to say.

Or even Frege I mean, such simple things like if I say I am typing this now, no matter what others say it will always be true. When you are knee deep in relativism etc. something like that is actually comforting,

[CommieBastard]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2005, 07:05 PM
I feel that logic is an abstract philosophy!
It most certainly is.
Every element of human thought is a synthesis created in the human mind for the apparent purpose of allowing us to function in some unknown absolute reality. Though it is equally likely that it is created for the purpose of running calculations from a given input to an unknown output using highly complex neural networks in some universe where they have created such things.

Either way, logic is just a construction of the human mind, just like literally everything else we experience.
What distinguishes logic is that it is possibly the most coherent free standing system we have yet bothered to create.

[Aurorus Ruber]

I feel that logic is an abstract philosophy! I dislike all logic (in the sense of the field studied by people like Russell and Frege) because it is cold and irrelevant to nearly all of our lives. I prefer philosophy in way Kierkegaard and Nietzsche practised...namely all philosophy grounded in life and not in the false worlds of the Rationalists and Logical Philosophers.

I couldn't agree more. I think you summed up a great deal of what I think.