The 4-11 on Che

[Domingo]

Hey peps:

I have alot a questions that NEED to be answered:


1.) Who was Che?

2.) What did he do?

3.) Did he have a good cause?


I am just reeally curious. By what I have heard, he was a martyr for his people in the 60's. Please give me some answers. If I am to support a person, I ould love to know about him.

[FeArANDLoAtHiNg]

1.) A guy from Argentina.

2.) Fought in revolutions.

3.) Yes.

For an elaboration, pick up a book.

:D

[Domingo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 07:40 AM

For an elaboration, pick up a book.

:D
good deal, man. Any good book?

[Urban Guerrilla]

Pick up the Che Handbook. It is a summed up, but very informal book on Che.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0312322461.01._PIdp-schmooS,TopRight,7,-26_PE32_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Domingo]

Any place in America I can buy it. (via Hastings, Barnes and Nobles, ext.)

[Urban Guerrilla]

Probably in larger book stores (such as Barnes and Noble, Borders, ect.) . It can be found under the biographies.

[Domingo]

Alright, I'll look it up. Thanks.

[Urban Guerrilla]

Yeah, it is a good book. Has a lot of interesting pictures and interviews with family,friends, and Guerrillas. It is a good book for anyone who wants to learn facts about Che.

[Domingo]

Say, I have another question: Did Che's guys ever attack American forces?

[Vallegrande]

I never read about any events where Che attacked American forces. He was in the Cuban revolution, the Congo, and Bolivia, and the CIA kept track of him for a long time. The U.S. funded the Bolivian army ( I dont know how much but it was a generous amount) to hunt down and execute Che, of which they eventually did. Felix Rodriguez was a major part of this, because he was to confirm that Che was captured and executed. Felix's own relatives, the Batistas, were the ones who controlled Cuba before the revolution, when they were ousted from power.

[Colombia]

How was Felix related in any way to Batista?

[fernando]

Well...not really family of Batista...but IIRC Felix' uncle was a minister (or at least a high placed politician) under the Batista regime. Perhaps that is what Vallegrande meant by "related"?

[Vallegrande]

I thought Felix may have been a distant cousin of the Batistas.

[SpeCtrE]

Domingo,

Are you serious. You mean you don't know anything about Che. Are you one of those T-shirt Communists?\

T-shirt Communist, (V) , Defn. , A slang used by me on people who got introduced to Che when they saw him in those GAP produced T-shirts. Comrade Malte sells those T-shirts to make a little profit.

And, By the way, The Best Book on che is JLA's book, called Che: A revolutionary life. Read Tad Szulc's book too, which is called, Fidel, a Critical portrait if you have the time.

And Felix isn't the relative of Batista, But he had a minister in Batista's cabinet who was his uncle ( the Minster of the public works or something if I am not mistaken.)

[Domingo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 02:37 PM

Are you serious. You mean you don't know anything about Che. Are you one of those T-shirt Communists?\

No, I really am not Communist at all. I really just like to learn about things. Che is still a heated topic around the world and I really think that what he did was a good cause (after reading about him and his actions).

I may be hated for it by all of those damn Baby-Boomers, but his cause was more just than those idiots entire life. Che was a martry and I respect him for that. His death by Bolivian troops was murder. We have America to blame (who was also to cowardice to do it themselves). America armed, trained and directed the Bolivian troops. In a way, America murdered him.

[SpeCtrE]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 02:59 PM


I may be hated for it by all of those damn Baby-Boomers, but his cause was more just than those idiots entire life. Che was a martry and I respect him for that. His death by Bolivian troops was murder. We have America to blame (who was also to cowardice to do it themselves). America armed, trained and directed the Bolivian troops. In a way, America murdered him.
I am glad to see that you have done your homework and read about che. Good.

[Domingo]

I am glad my knowledge counts somewhere.
People in the area I live in wouldn't be able to even comprehend anything that went on, they would sum up Che as a terrorist. Talk about ignorant.

[Vallegrande]

You know Felix Rodriguez got a personal "thank you" letter for his accomplishments from George Bush Sr. Rodriguez and Bush Sr were both in the CIA together at the time.

[Domingo]

Now I know, that distgust me.

[workersunity]

that book that he posted is from www.amazon.com where you can get it from a used bookseller on that site

[Domingo]

Ok, I will probably go buy that in the near future.

[Tupac-Amaru]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 02:37 PM
Read Tad Szulc's book too, which is called, Fidel, a Critical portrait if you have the time.
Yes! good book!

Its interesting to see the difference between that book on Fidel and the Cuban-published one i bought when i was in cuba.

[aberos]

if you have some time i would also recommend reading the motorcycle diaries, back on the road, and the african dream. those are his easily accessible diaries, and they show the synthesis into an experienced revolutionary mind. also, guerrilla warfare and the che guevara reader would be very worthwhile reads.

[Tupac-Amaru]

Yep. ive read guerrilla and back on the road, but wots the afrikan dream about? is it about his campaign in congo? and wots the che guevara reader about?

[SpeCtrE]

Somoene trash this string

[waltersm]

I got that book at barnes and noble

[KC]

You could also read My Friend Che. It's a book written by one of Che's "closest friends", Ricardo Rojo. It's a different point of view; very good book, very interesting. On a less related note, I've just started reading a book called Guerilla Prince: The Untold Story of Fidel Castro by Georgie Anne Geyer. It sounds very promising.

[Domingo]

sounds good,illhave to checkinto it. I hear good things of Guerilla Warefare by many unlikely people. it is good to hear that the movement lives on.

[Colombia]

What I want to know is why you all read Guerilla Warfare? Plan on starting a movement anytime soon guys?

[aberos]

...the thought never crossed my mind...

[SpeCtrE]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 05:25 AM
You could also read My Friend Che. It's a book written by one of Che's "closest friends", Ricardo Rojo. It's a different point of view; very good book, very interesting. On a less related note, I've just started reading a book called Guerilla Prince: The Untold Story of Fidel Castro by Georgie Anne Geyer. It sounds very promising.
Bullshit of a book!

many of Che's friends worte books about him, some were genuine and some were full of bullshit. I guess they tried to cash out from che's Image and portray their relationship with Che more than it is.

Ricardo Rojo, alas, falls into that catagory

[aberos]

i would tend to agree, but it does contain a few nuggets of truth within ins pages. plus is it is pleasant read if nothing else.

[Severian]

The best thing to read is stuff by Che. There are a number of collections of his articles and speeches out there. Stuff like "Message to the Tricontinental" and "Socialism and Man in Cuba" is better than anything aboutChe by esp. by non-revolutionaries.

Plus the various guerilla diaries and whatnot. The best of those, IMO, is Episodes of the Cuban Revolutionary War, about the biggest revolution he was involved with.

[aberos]

where could one find his cuban diaries?

[SpeCtrE]

There is a collected works of a Che, by a guy called Daniel Something...(someone help me,) I used to have that book until lent it to someone and he lost it.

I did not read it well, But my dad really liked that book.

I guess it would be worth reading than those books that are written by those revolutionary-wannabes.

[aberos]

are you thinking of the che guevara reader compiled by David Duetschmann?

[SpeCtrE]

Nope, that is not it.

The title of the book is the collected works of che guevara