Our mission is complete here

[the RIGHT=FREEDOM]

Our liberty campaign here has come to an end.

We have concluded that you people are bleeding heart, anti-freedom, anti-free speech commes.

You people want to prop those up who could easily fend for themselves but are just to lazy.

You restrict and ban people who disagree with you on these forums, just like FASCISTS.

You people also opposse the spread of freedom all over the world (Iraq and Afganistan), you don't care if these people to live under the rule of terrorists and extremists, you ignore their cries for freedom.

Keep trying to spread your cute new fuzzy brand of communism, while countries like the U.S. and Japan remain rich and let their people do what they want with their money under capitalism.

Adios.

[redstar2000]

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

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[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Our liberty campaign here has come to an end.

Now that it has been established through argument that yr conception of liberty is skewed beyond comprehension, I suppose continuing the campaign would be rather silly.



We have concluded that you people are bleeding heart, anti-freedom, anti-free speech commes.

Speaking in the royal "we"? Shall I address you with the polite "vous" from now on?

In any case, it's a lovely statement, but you fail to provide so much as a shred of evidence. I mean, I don't think anybody on this board has been anything but supportive of Ward Churchill during this entire witch-hunt ordeal. ;)


You people want to prop those up who could easily fend for themselves but are just to lazy.

You've never met a real live poor person, have you? If you have a bit of honest evidence to show that Risley, sitting in his mansion and getting richer, works harder than me when I'm knee-deep in the half-eaten lobsters of his extravagent clientel, I'd love to see it . . . but I'll probably have a heart-attack the day that bastard puts in as much honest labour as one of his employees.

Actually, he'll probably have a heart attack. :lol:


You restrict and ban people who disagree with you on these forums, just like FASCISTS.

You know how refs throw you out of a soccer game if you keep refusing to play by the rules? Man, Soccer refs are such fascists!!!
Ayn Rand forbid that one be made to play by a set of rules they consent to in a given context.
Fascists silenced free speech on a grand scale, and sent people ('Reds" in particular) to concentration camps.
The day we stop yr free speech outside of this message board, within which you agree to a certain set of rules, and phytsically restrain yr person, then you can complain.

Wait, I don't even need to argue this - cappie-paradise outright BANS people. Fuck you, tool.


You people also opposse the spread of freedom all over the world (Iraq and Afganistan), you don't care if these people to live under the rule of terrorists and extremists, you ignore their cries for freedom.

We do care about people forced to live under terrorists and extremists! Which is why we oppose continued American intervension in the region, which has a history of establishing and financing rule by terrorists and extremists! Their 'cries for freedom' have been manifesting themselves in rockets launched at American soldiers, which is probably a pretty good hint that you're doing something wrong.


Keep trying to spread your cute new fuzzy brand of communism, while countries like the U.S. and Japan remain rich and let their people do what they want with their money under capitalism.

I think you mean ". . . the elite of the US and Japan remain rich, and let this narrow elite do what they want with their money."
Hell, I live in a capitalist country, but a) don't have money for pot, and b) wouldn't be allowed to spend it on pot if I did have the money to do so.
So much for that. :rolleyes:

[New Tolerance]

Our liberty campaign here has come to an end.


I see that you've used the word "our".

Funny how it is that none of the other capitalists who posted here in the last few days is also saying someting about this "campaign", are you sure that you are not just making this up?

[fernando]

Originally posted by the [email protected] 6 2005, 06:11 PM
Our liberty campaign here has come to an end.

We have concluded that you people are bleeding heart, anti-freedom, anti-free speech commes.

You people want to prop those up who could easily fend for themselves but are just to lazy.

You restrict and ban people who disagree with you on these forums, just like FASCISTS.

You people also opposse the spread of freedom all over the world (Iraq and Afganistan), you don't care if these people to live under the rule of terrorists and extremists, you ignore their cries for freedom.

Keep trying to spread your cute new fuzzy brand of communism, while countries like the U.S. and Japan remain rich and let their people do what they want with their money under capitalism.

Adios.
Jesus will burn our asses in hell because we are infidels bla bla bla, you little bag of contradiction you! :lol:

[Blackberry]

Originally posted by the [email protected] 7 2005, 06:11 AM
Our liberty campaign here has come to an end.

We have concluded that you people are bleeding heart, anti-freedom, anti-free speech commes.

You people want to prop those up who could easily fend for themselves but are just to lazy.

You restrict and ban people who disagree with you on these forums, just like FASCISTS.

You people also opposse the spread of freedom all over the world (Iraq and Afganistan), you don't care if these people to live under the rule of terrorists and extremists, you ignore their cries for freedom.

Keep trying to spread your cute new fuzzy brand of communism, while countries like the U.S. and Japan remain rich and let their people do what they want with their money under capitalism.

Adios.
Exactly what was the objective of your "mission"?

Was it to convert the "loony lefties" at RevolutionaryLeft.com to the ideal of capitalism?

If that was the case, you failed miserably. (Any other objective would have been a waste of our time, and yours too.)

You did yourself no favour with the "riff raff" here in the way you behaved.

You were very fond of using a variety of "offensive" names and labels for those who did not subscribe to your world view in your time here (although something tells me that you will be back!), and your patronisation left a lot to be desired.

[POFO_Communist]

Our liberty campaign here has come to an end.

We have concluded that you people are bleeding heart, anti-freedom, anti-free speech commes.

You people want to prop those up who could easily fend for themselves but are just to lazy.

You restrict and ban people who disagree with you on these forums, just like FASCISTS.

You people also opposse the spread of freedom all over the world (Iraq and Afganistan), you don't care if these people to live under the rule of terrorists and extremists, you ignore their cries for freedom.

Keep trying to spread your cute new fuzzy brand of communism, while countries like the U.S. and Japan remain rich and let their people do what they want with their money under capitalism.

Adios.

:lol: I love this guy.... his repeated attempts to convert us evil, freedom hating, oppressive, fascist commies into freedom loving, righteous, rich and divine capitalists is so effective. I'm getting an erection just from reading his amazingly persuasive and well written words of wisdom.

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[RedAnarchist]

So, you going to tell us where your "campaign's" headquarters are?

Or do you have too much homework to do, kid? :lol:

[fernando]

Havent you noticed that this guy goes like: "we tried to convert you bla bla" what does this mean? I thought he was a single person not a whole collective of personalities...what is going on? Capitalist hive mind against us? :blink:

[NovelGentry]

Why do I get the feeling that these were the Protest Warriors trying to make up for getting their asses kicked by the Anarchists at the innaugeration?

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 02:46 PM
Why do I get the feeling that these were the Protest Warriors trying to make up for getting their asses kicked by the Anarchists at the innaugeration?
Anarchists make me happy. I want to kiss somebody right now. Anybody with a black flag will do.

[Lamanov]

yeah, you were just like Rambo. ratatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatata :ph34r:
:P especially in a verbal way.


"why do u hate America John ? " " :che: i love America. I would die for my country"

[amusing foibles]

We have concluded that you people are bleeding heart, anti-freedom, anti-free speech commes.

Awww, I love you too!

And would it kill you to spell "commies" correctly? If you're gonna slag us off, do it properly.

[STI]

I think anybody who starts a thread entitled "So? WhaThe private sector, thoughts commes?" doesn't deserve freedom of speech, to be quite honest. 533 u on t3h fl1pz1d3, lolz!

[dakewlguy]

You know how refs throw you out of a soccer game if you keep refusing to play by the rules? Man, Soccer refs are such fascists!!!
Ayn Rand forbid that one be made to play by a set of rules they consent to in a given context.
Fascists silenced free speech on a grand scale, and sent people ('Reds" in particular) to concentration camps.
The day we stop yr free speech outside of this message board, within which you agree to a certain set of rules, and phytsically restrain yr person, then you can complain.

Wait, I don't even need to argue this - cappie-paradise outright BANS people. Fuck you, tool.
The difference is soccer is a game with set rules with no room for debate. A message board is created for discussion, therefore banning certain viewpoints undermines its original purpose.
Also from what I recall, it was 'jews' in particular who were sent to concentration camps under Fascist rule. Not 'reds'.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by dakewlguy
Also from what I recall, it was 'jews' in particular who were sent to concentration camps under Fascist rule. Not 'reds'.

Your recollections are incomplete.

When the fascists came to power in Italy, their state-terrorism was entirely directed against "reds".

When the Nazis came to power in Germany, many Jews were randomly attacked and beaten in the streets of German cities by the SA...but it was the "reds" who were "arrested" and incarcerated in make-shift "prison camps"...and who were the first occupants of the new concentration camps when they were completed. Thousands of them were beaten to death.

Another large group of prisoners came from the trade union leadership in Germany, who suffered similar treatment.

Jews were not sent to concentration camps for being Jews as such until 1938...and, of course, we know what happened after that.

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[Lamanov]

Yes, by the way, Hitler himself stated in "Mein Kramph" that one of the reasons he hated Jews is that a vast part of them were leftists

[t_wolves_fan]

Originally posted by redstar2000+Feb 9 2005, 03:29 PM--> (redstar2000 @ Feb 9 2005, 03:29 PM)
dakewlguy
Also from what I recall, it was 'jews' in particular who were sent to concentration camps under Fascist rule. Not 'reds'.

Your recollections are incomplete.

When the fascists came to power in Italy, their state-terrorism was entirely directed against "reds".

When the Nazis came to power in Germany, many Jews were randomly attacked and beaten in the streets of German cities by the SA...but it was the "reds" who were "arrested" and incarcerated in make-shift "prison camps"...and who were the first occupants of the new concentration camps when they were completed. Thousands of them were beaten to death.

Another large group of prisoners came from the trade union leadership in Germany, who suffered similar treatment.

Jews were not sent to concentration camps for being Jews as such until 1938...and, of course, we know what happened after that.

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And of course, similar events are occuring all the time here in the states...

:lol:

[dakewlguy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 03:29 PM

Your recollections are incomplete.
When the fascists came to power in Italy, their state-terrorism was entirely directed against "reds".
When the Nazis came to power in Germany, many Jews were randomly attacked and beaten in the streets of German cities by the SA...but it was the "reds" who were "arrested" and incarcerated in make-shift "prison camps"...and who were the first occupants of the new concentration camps when they were completed. Thousands of them were beaten to death.
Another large group of prisoners came from the trade union leadership in Germany, who suffered similar treatment.
Jews were not sent to concentration camps for being Jews as such until 1938...and, of course, we know what happened after that.
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Holy shit :o thousands :o killed. Oh wait six million Jews were killed.

As for trade union leadership being persecuted, firstly for Jews not only was the leadership attacked but also the entire membership.
Secondly according to other claims on this forum, trade unionists are not 'reds', but liberals as bad as Fascists themselves. You can't have it both ways, either they are communist, or aren't.


Yes, by the way, Hitler himself stated in "Mein Kramph" that one of the reasons he hated Jews is that a vast part of them were leftists
This shows that he had multiple reasons for persecuting the Jews, and that not all Jews were 'leftist'. It provides evidence for him wishing to persecute those of the left wing, not all of which are 'reds', but no proof of him disliking leftists more.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by t_wolves_fan+--> (t_wolves_fan)And of course, similar events are occurring all the time here in the states...[/b]

There are many parallels between the last years of the Weimar Republic/early years of the Third Reich and present events in the United States.

But history is not a "copy machine" and details often vary.

I'm glad that you, at least, appreciate your own "wit".


dakewlguy
Holy shit thousands killed. Oh wait six million Jews were killed.

I pointed out to you that the "reds" were the first victims of fascist state-terrorism in both Italy and Germany.

Why do you find that so difficult to grasp?


Secondly according to other claims on this forum, trade unionists are not 'reds', but liberals as bad as Fascists themselves. You can't have it both ways, either they are communist, or aren't.

In the eyes of the Nazis, they were "as bad as communists".

The Nazis did not trouble themselves with the communist critique of social democracy.


It provides evidence for him wishing to persecute those of the left wing, not all of which are 'reds', but no proof of him disliking leftists more.

It is not a matter of Hitler's "dislikes" -- the Nazis recognized that communists were the most irreconcilable opponents of Nazism and therefore attacked them first.

I don't understand why you are contesting this point so obstinately...it's a matter of recorded history and found in any reputable introduction to the rise of the Third Reich.

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[Lamanov]

This shows that he had multiple reasons for persecuting the Jews, and that not all Jews were 'leftist'. It provides evidence for him wishing to persecute those of the left wing, not all of which are 'reds', but no proof of him disliking leftists more.

:huh: would it satisfy you if i said that he disliked them equally ? ;)
revolutionary leftist ideas were very popular among the Jews at the time, and there is no doubt that it had a powerfull effect on him. In fact they were so popular that many "thinkers" [i would say money hungry sensationalists] used that fact to show that communism is some "Jewish conspiracy". Ridiculous, yes, but causaly you can see what i'm talking about.

[dakewlguy]

I pointed out to you that the "reds" were the first victims of fascist state-terrorism in both Italy and Germany.

this could easily be explained as down to Communists being smaller in numbers and easier to deal with than dealing with the Jews first, who would require further planning. It does nothing to prove Communists were victims of Fascism more than Jews.


In the eyes of the Nazis, they were "as bad as communists".

And this makes them Communist does it?


It is not a matter of Hitler's "dislikes" -- the Nazis recognized that communists were the most irreconcilable opponents of Nazism and therefore attacked them first.

I don't understand why you are contesting this point so obstinately...it's a matter of recorded history and found in any reputable introduction to the rise of the Third Reich.
Yes, it is a matter of dislikes. Let me remind you of the original point: Jews in particular were sent to concentration camps, and were persecuted more than communists.

[dakewlguy]

Originally posted by DJ-[email protected] 9 2005, 06:33 PM

This shows that he had multiple reasons for persecuting the Jews, and that not all Jews were 'leftist'. It provides evidence for him wishing to persecute those of the left wing, not all of which are 'reds', but no proof of him disliking leftists more.

:huh: would it satisfy you if i said that he disliked them equally ? ;)
revolutionary leftist ideas were very popular among the Jews at the time, and there is no doubt that it had a powerfull effect on him. In fact they were so popular that many "thinkers" [i would say money hungry sensationalists] used that fact to show that communism is some "Jewish conspiracy". Ridiculous, yes, but causaly you can see what i'm talking about.
No, disliking them equally would not show me that he persecuted Communists more than Jews. Having a partial effect on his motivation to persecute Jews shows other factors were involved.

[DaCuBaN]

It does nothing to prove Communists were victims of Fascism more than Jews.

Well, for one thing it's a lot easier to say you're not a communist and get away with it than it was to be Jewish and do likewise. Communists weren't tagged prior to being rounded up, and that's just the very tip of the iceberg. I suspect, like many Jewish people tried, that many communist went into "hiding" long prior to the rise of the Third Reich.

This is all aside from the point: The communists were the first victims of Hitler's rise to power. Still, what exactly does this have to do with your "mission"? here at was-che-lives?

[Lamanov]

"...other factors..."

Material factors to be exact, nothing methaphysical.


No, disliking them equally would not show me that he persecuted Communists more than Jews. Having a partial effect on his motivation to persecute Jews shows other factors were involved.


As everyone said : reds were the FIRST
By the way, problem is quantitative : Jews [as ethnic group] - few million, communists [as political movement] - few thousands. Do you get it now ?

[Objectivist]

Originally posted by the [email protected] 6 2005, 06:11 PM
...
You restrict and ban people who disagree with you on these forums, just like FASCISTS.
...

Umm, actually, since this is a private forum, isn't it within their rights to ban whomever they want?

A question: In a communist country, would it still be within your rights to ban whomever you want?

Who does he (the Right=freedom) mean by "we"?

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by dakewlguy
It does nothing to prove Communists were victims of Fascism more than Jews.

Nobody said that!


And this makes them Communist does it?

In the eyes of the Nazis it did!


Let me remind you of the original point: Jews in particular were sent to concentration camps, and were persecuted more than communists.

No, that was not your "original point", this was...


Also from what I recall, it was 'jews' in particular who were sent to concentration camps under Fascist rule. Not 'reds'.

In Italy, it was all "reds". In Germany, it was all "reds" (pretty much) until 1938.

I cannot help but wonder why you are disputing such an obvious historical point.

What's your angle here?

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[Lamanov]

What's your angle here?

Maybe he's one of those people that claim how Marxism and Facism are 'mirror' ideologies, and that it's all just forms of social-Darwinism, and thus they are friendly. Or on the other hand, he just wants to show how it's all nonsence and that 'reds' weren't important issue to the most reactionary systems in history.
Or then again, he just wants to argue.... nevermind what..

[dakewlguy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 06:47 PM


This is all aside from the point: The communists were the first victims of Hitler's rise to power. Still, what exactly does this have to do with your "mission"? here at was-che-lives?
I think you're confusing me with the original poster, I don't have a "mission". The point that Communists were the first victims can be explained in terms of logistics, the Jews were a larger group. As I have previously said.



DJ-TC
Everything you said I addressed in my previous post.


Nobody said that!
Yes, they did. My whole point to begin with was that someone was implying 'Reds' were persecuted more than Jews. Ah here it is: "Fascists silenced free speech on a grand scale, and sent people ('Reds" in particular) to concentration camps." -Virgin Molotov Cocktail.


In the eyes of the Nazis it did!
The poster claiming 'Reds' were persecuted more than Jews was not a Nazi I assume. So they would disagree that these people were Communist.


I cannot help but wonder why you are disputing such an obvious historical point.

What's your angle here?
My angle is that it is completely ridiculous to claim Communists were targeted by the Nazis more than Jews. And that it most certainly is not a fact.


Maybe he's one of those people that claim how Marxism and Facism are 'mirror' ideologies, and that it's all just forms of social-Darwinism, and thus they are friendly. Or on the other hand, he just wants to show how it's all nonsence and that 'reds' weren't important issue to the most reactionary systems in history.
Or then again, he just wants to argue.... nevermind what..
Hahaha jesus. A perfect example of the generalization of those with opposing views to Marxists that occurs here. Please, feel free to post what has directed you towards thinking I think Marxism and Fascism are similar.

[CommieBastard]

Please note where he said 'maybe'
All too often people don't bother relating the meanings of words like 'maybe', 'if' or 'possibly' to the contextual change in meanings for others words.

[dakewlguy]

True, he still makes some ridiculous 'possible' assumptions, though.

[Anarchist Freedom]

You cappies aresoo hardcore! :lol:

[CommieBastard]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 02:18 PM
True, he still makes some ridiculous 'possible' assumptions, though.
Oh, I know that.
But so do you, me and everyone else.
The best we can do is try to limit them as and when we are aware of them.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by dakewlguy
My angle is that it is completely ridiculous to claim Communists were targeted by the Nazis more than Jews. And that it most certainly is not a fact.

Well, you've shifted your position again.

1. The main targets of Nazi state-terrorism in the period 1933-38 were those whom the Nazis perceived as "reds" -- communists, trade unionists, and social democrats. These were the overwhelming majority of the prisoners in concentration camps, particularly members of the KPD. Do you deny this?

2. Jews were first sent to concentration camps in large numbers during the "Krystallnacht" pogrom in November, 1938. Do you deny this?

3. After that pogrom, Jews were sent to concentration camps in significant numbers. Do you deny this?

4. After 1939, the systematic murder of Jews because they were Jews began. Do you deny this?

What do you hope to gain by pretending that communists were not the first victims of Nazi state-terrorism?

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[dakewlguy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 03:30 PM

Well, you've shifted your position again.

1. The main targets of Nazi state-terrorism in the period 1933-38 were those whom the Nazis perceived as "reds" -- communists, trade unionists, and social democrats. These were the overwhelming majority of the prisoners in concentration camps, particularly members of the KPD. Do you deny this?

2. Jews were first sent to concentration camps in large numbers during the "Krystallnacht" pogrom in November, 1938. Do you deny this?

3. After that pogrom, Jews were sent to concentration camps in significant numbers. Do you deny this?

4. After 1939, the systematic murder of Jews because they were Jews began. Do you deny this?

What do you hope to gain by pretending that communists were not the first victims of Nazi state-terrorism?

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Please feel free to illuminate how I have changed my position. It has always been that "Fascists silenced free speech on a grand scale, and sent people ('Reds" in particular) to concentration camps." is incorrect.



I have also already responded a number of times to the argument that Communists, or percieved Communists were persecuted first.

this could easily be explained as down to Communists being smaller in numbers and easier to deal with than dealing with the Jews first, who would require further planning. It does nothing to prove Communists were victims of Fascism more than Jews.



The point that Communists were the first victims can be explained in terms of logistics, the Jews were a larger group. As I have previously said.

[Dyst]

this could easily be explained as down to Communists being smaller in numbers and easier to deal with than dealing with the Jews first, who would require further planning. It does nothing to prove Communists were victims of Fascism more than Jews.
I wouldn't be so quick to assume that. I think the reason is more along the lines of communism being a more important threat to their political faction. Seeing how communism was on a heavy rise in Germany at the time.

[Lamanov]

True, he still makes some ridiculous 'possible' assumptions, though.

I only make ridiculous assumptions when it comes to you guys. My other 'assumptions' are not that bad ;) , and this time - this one is correct : "Or then again, he just wants to argue.... doesn't matter what.."

[CommieBastard]

par·tic·u·lar ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-tky-lr, p-tk-)
adj.
Of, belonging to, or associated with a specific person, group, thing, or category; not general or universal: has a particular preference for Chinese art.
Separate and distinct from others of the same group, category, or nature: made an exception in this particular case.
Worthy of note; exceptional: a piano performance of particular depth and fluidity.

Of, relating to, or providing details: gave a particular description of the room.
Attentive to or concerned with details or niceties, often excessively so; meticulous or fussy.
Logic. Encompassing some but not all of the members of a class or group. Used of a proposition.

n.
An individual item, fact, or detail: correct in every particular. See Synonyms at item.
An item or detail of information or news. Often used in the plural: The police refused to divulge the particulars of the case.
A separate case or an individual thing or instance, especially one that can be distinguished from a larger category or class. Often used in the plural: “What particulars were ambushed behind these generalizations?” (Aldous Huxley).
Logic. A particular proposition.

Idiom:
in particular
Particularly; especially.

Would at least one of these meanings fit in with the contextual meaning of the sentence such as to make it acceptable to you?

[Latifa]

"Klan! Our mission is done here!!!"

"Prepare for takeoff!"

[retard cappies blast off into space, never to be seen again ( I wish! ) ]

[NovelGentry]

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[dakewlguy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2005, 02:41 AM
"Klan! Our mission is done here!!!"

"Prepare for takeoff!"

[retard cappies blast off into space, never to be seen again ( I wish! ) ]
Yes, all Capitalists are KKK members.
Cue golf clap.

[dakewlguy]

wouldn't be so quick to assume that. I think the reason is more along the lines of communism being a more important threat to their political faction. Seeing how communism was on a heavy rise in Germany at the time
Possibly. But I don't recall the Nazi focus being on how to deal with the 'Communist Question'.

[Anarchist Freedom]

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/images/bushlies.jpg



How "Ironicle". That is one of my favorite bush pictures

[dakewlguy]

I like the one where it shows Bush with his hand in the air as if he is doing a Nazi salute. It shows how he really is a Nazi!!!!

[t_wolves_fan]

Don't forget that Germany elected a Nazi. That is proof positive that Bush is a Nazi.

I'm not sure how, but the guys at ANSWER say it is, so it's gotta be.


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[dakewlguy]

You know who else wanted to reform social security?
Yeah, thats right.

[dakewlguy]

Originally posted by DJ-[email protected] 10 2005, 12:58 PM


Maybe he's one of those people that claim how Marxism and Facism are 'mirror' ideologies, and that it's all just forms of social-Darwinism, and thus they are friendly.
I am still waiting for evidence for this.

[dakewlguy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 03:30 PM


Well, you've shifted your position again.

I am also still waiting for evidence of this.

[dakewlguy]

It is not hard to find quotes of mine and back up these claims, I only have 63 posts, all contained in maybe 10 threads or so.

[dakewlguy]

Originally posted by dakewlguy+Feb 11 2005, 10:16 PM--> (dakewlguy @ Feb 11 2005, 10:16 PM)
[email protected] 10 2005, 03:30 PM


Well, you've shifted your position again.

I am also still waiting for evidence of this. [/b]
I see redstar2000 is now posting.