Wow. Lots of threads

[comrade_mufasa]

Becouse it seems that all the cappis here have been saying the same thing for the past 3-4 days in a number of diffrent threads. Lets try and stream line all of those threads into one thread.


Some Important Points to Ponder
Communism is dead
Questions about your socialist or communist system
To all the capitalism defenders
List of Reasons
Socialist and Communist Ideologue Movement
If communism respects the individual
Does the plan for communism
Were is the revolution you speak of?
What was your defining moment? (this started off as a good thread, but turned into a cappi vs. commie thread)
The Problem with Instituting Marxism in the U.S.
From each according to his ability...
A question
The Bad Always End Up on Top
all of those threads have the same exact discussions going on. All its doing is wasting board space.

[crazyman]

Looks like we got your attention.
Your time is up. Communism is just a dream and nothing more.

You can't cover up your faild Ideologies forever with fancy words.

Sonner or latter the world is going to find out that you are full of shit.

[comrade_mufasa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 03:59 PM
Looks like we got your attention.
Your time is up. Communism is just a deam and nothing more.

You can't cover up your faild Ideologies forever with fancy words.

Sonner or latter the world is going to find out that you are full of shit.
<_< what ever you say.

[New Tolerance]

Looks like we got your attention.
Your time is up. Communism is just a deam and nothing more.

You can&#39;t cover up your faild Ideologies forever with fancy words.

Sonner or latter the world is going to find out that you are full of shit.

if it&#39;s just a dream then there is nothing you have to worry about right? So why the hell are you here anyways? (talking to be a bunch of dreamers)

[Sirion]

Because he have been taught to hate and fear us, although he have little or no clue about how we want to transform the world.

[NovelGentry]

Strange how people could be so afraid of something that&#39;s just a dream.

[comrade_mufasa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 05:17 PM
Strange how people could be so afraid of something that&#39;s just a dream.
what is really strange is that all of these cappis think that we want to rule the world so that we can be dictators. When all we want is to help the oppressed masses.

[truthman]

Originally posted by comrade_mufasa+Feb 5 2005, 04:52 AM--> (comrade_mufasa @ Feb 5 2005, 04:52 AM)
[email protected] 4 2005, 05:17 PM
Strange how people could be so afraid of something that&#39;s just a dream.
what is really strange is that all of these cappis think that we want to rule the world so that we can be dictators. When all we want is to help the oppressed masses. [/b]
Yeah, rights and self-determination are so unfair man.

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 04:52 AM
what is really strange is that all of these cappis think that we want to rule the world so that we can be dictators. When all we want is to help the oppressed masses.
That&#39;s part of the problem- you can&#39;t do the latter without being the former.

[Elect Marx]

That&#39;s part of the problem- you can&#39;t do the latter without being the former.

Yeah, rights and self-determination are so unfair man.

Pathetic... one line responses? What do you think you are proving; your capacity to articulate?

PM
Rights and self-determination? Where? For who? This is not a point, it is a challenge with no follow-through, it is spam.
Can you take the path in life you chose? No one tells you what to do and how to live?
One last question: Why the hell are you here? You must have the perfect life; why don&#39;t you go frolic in your joyous freedom?

TM
You can&#39;t free without dominating? Do you really believe that? If that is what you believe, I don&#39;t think we can help you until you learn that trying to control others creates hostility and needless conflict in society creating inequality > all leading to needless suffering and death. Must just be you idea of progress&#33;?

[the RIGHT=FREEDOM]

Originally posted by comrade_mufasa+Feb 5 2005, 04:52 AM--> (comrade_mufasa @ Feb 5 2005, 04:52 AM)
[email protected] 4 2005, 05:17 PM
Strange how people could be so afraid of something that&#39;s just a dream.
what is really strange is that all of these cappis think that we want to rule the world so that we can be dictators. When all we want is to help the oppressed masses. [/b]
Then you need to become a Christian.

[fernando]

As if Christianity was so great for the world...the greatests genocides in our history were commited in the name of the Christian God...

[the RIGHT=FREEDOM]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 04:57 PM
As if Christianity was so great for the world...the greatests genocides in our history were commited in the name of the Christian God...
Nice try, Hitler was no Christian.

[fernando]

Originally posted by the RIGHT=FREEDOM+Feb 5 2005, 05:02 PM--> (the RIGHT=FREEDOM @ Feb 5 2005, 05:02 PM)
[email protected] 5 2005, 04:57 PM
As if Christianity was so great for the world...the greatests genocides in our history were commited in the name of the Christian God...
Nice try, Hitler was no Christian. [/b]
What about all the killings of the Indians, Africans and Azians in order for the European empires/economies to expand...genocide is not something exclusive to the 20th century...

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by the RIGHT=FREEDOM+Feb 5 2005, 06:02 PM--> (the RIGHT=FREEDOM @ Feb 5 2005, 06:02 PM)
[email protected] 5 2005, 04:57 PM
As if Christianity was so great for the world...the greatests genocides in our history were commited in the name of the Christian God...
Nice try, Hitler was no Christian. [/b]
Phunny. Hitler was partly sponsored by the Catholic Party and the Pope supported Hitler.

[the RIGHT=FREEDOM]

Originally posted by Non&#045;Sectarian Bastard&#33;+Feb 5 2005, 05:05 PM--> (Non-Sectarian Bastard&#33; @ Feb 5 2005, 05:05 PM)
Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:02 PM

[email protected] 5 2005, 04:57 PM
As if Christianity was so great for the world...the greatests genocides in our history were commited in the name of the Christian God...
Nice try, Hitler was no Christian.
Phunny. Hitler was partly sponsored by the Catholic Party and the Pope supported Hitler. [/b]
First off, Catholics really aren&#39;t Christians, if you&#39;d like me to elaborate on that for you, I&#39;d be glad to.

Hitler also indirectly killed six million Jews, Christ&#39;s own people.

He wanted his people to believe he was God, he closed down all churches, who wouldn&#39;t replace Christ&#39;s image with his own.

[fernando]

Originally posted by the RIGHT=FREEDOM+Feb 5 2005, 05:12 PM--> (the RIGHT=FREEDOM @ Feb 5 2005, 05:12 PM)
Originally posted by Non&#045;Sectarian Bastard&#33;@Feb 5 2005, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:02 PM

[email protected] 5 2005, 04:57 PM
As if Christianity was so great for the world...the greatests genocides in our history were commited in the name of the Christian God...
Nice try, Hitler was no Christian.
Phunny. Hitler was partly sponsored by the Catholic Party and the Pope supported Hitler.
First off, Catholics really aren&#39;t Christians, if you&#39;d like me to elaborate on that for you, I&#39;d be glad to.

Hitler also indirectly killed six million Jews, Christ&#39;s own people.

He wanted his people to believe he was God, he closed down all churches, who wouldn&#39;t replace Christ&#39;s image with his own. [/b]
Catholics arent Christians? Elaborate that for me, are you one of those people who claim that Protestants are the only true Christians?

6 million Jews? You mean in the death camps right? You seem to forget that a large number of those 6 million were also homo sexuals, gypsies, jehova&#39;s witnesses, disabled people, communists.

Hitler claimed he was the leader, but not a God himself, he was an atheist...

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by the RIGHT=FREEDOM+Feb 5 2005, 06:12 PM--> (the RIGHT=FREEDOM @ Feb 5 2005, 06:12 PM)
Originally posted by Non&#045;Sectarian Bastard&#33;@Feb 5 2005, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:02 PM

[email protected] 5 2005, 04:57 PM
As if Christianity was so great for the world...the greatests genocides in our history were commited in the name of the Christian God...
Nice try, Hitler was no Christian.
Phunny. Hitler was partly sponsored by the Catholic Party and the Pope supported Hitler.
First off, Catholics really aren&#39;t Christians, if you&#39;d like me to elaborate on that for you, I&#39;d be glad to.

Hitler also indirectly killed six million Jews, Christ&#39;s own people.

He wanted his people to believe he was God, he closed down all churches, who wouldn&#39;t replace Christ&#39;s image with his own. [/b]
LIAR&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LIAR&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

1. Catholics are part of the original Christian trend. It was the Protestants who broke with Christian tradition and defied the rule of God. Protestants will burn in Hell&#33;

2. Germany in 1933 was a mostly protestant country, meaning that a majority of protestants had voted for Hitler, supported him, filled his armies, gassed Jews at concentrationcamps. Not to forgot that homosexuals, gypsies, communists, socialists and unionists were gassed too, but you as a loving Christian wouldn&#39;t care about that.

3. Fortunatly for you, most Churches did put up a poster of Hiter in Church. They did it with great enthousiasm and without protest.

[the RIGHT=FREEDOM]

Originally posted by fernando+Feb 5 2005, 05:14 PM--> (fernando @ Feb 5 2005, 05:14 PM)
Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by Non&#045;Sectarian Bastard&#33;@Feb 5 2005, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:02 PM

[email protected] 5 2005, 04:57 PM
As if Christianity was so great for the world...the greatests genocides in our history were commited in the name of the Christian God...
Nice try, Hitler was no Christian.
Phunny. Hitler was partly sponsored by the Catholic Party and the Pope supported Hitler.
First off, Catholics really aren&#39;t Christians, if you&#39;d like me to elaborate on that for you, I&#39;d be glad to.

Hitler also indirectly killed six million Jews, Christ&#39;s own people.

He wanted his people to believe he was God, he closed down all churches, who wouldn&#39;t replace Christ&#39;s image with his own.
Catholics arent Christians? Elaborate that for me, are you one of those people who claim that Protestants are the only true Christians?

6 million Jews? You mean in the death camps right? You seem to forget that a large number of those 6 million were also homo sexuals, gypsies, jehova&#39;s witnesses, disabled people, communists.

Hitler claimed he was the leader, but not a God himself, he was an atheist... [/b]
Ever read the Bible, lol, ok, stupid question to ask a comme. Catholics put up statues of the saints, Peter, Paul, and dead nuns. The Ten Commandments instruct that God&#39;s followers are "to make no false or graven images of me"

I&#39;ve watched these people pray to dead nuns and saints, they take whatever they want from the Bible and ignore the rest.

Ever since the selling of indulgances, the Catholic church has long been decadent.

[the RIGHT=FREEDOM]

Originally posted by Non&#045;Sectarian Bastard&#33;+Feb 5 2005, 05:27 PM--> (Non-Sectarian Bastard&#33; @ Feb 5 2005, 05:27 PM)
Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Non&#045;Sectarian Bastard&#33;@Feb 5 2005, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:02 PM

[email protected] 5 2005, 04:57 PM
As if Christianity was so great for the world...the greatests genocides in our history were commited in the name of the Christian God...
Nice try, Hitler was no Christian.
Phunny. Hitler was partly sponsored by the Catholic Party and the Pope supported Hitler.
First off, Catholics really aren&#39;t Christians, if you&#39;d like me to elaborate on that for you, I&#39;d be glad to.

Hitler also indirectly killed six million Jews, Christ&#39;s own people.

He wanted his people to believe he was God, he closed down all churches, who wouldn&#39;t replace Christ&#39;s image with his own.
LIAR&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LIAR&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

1. Catholics are part of the original Christian trend. It was the Protestants who broke with Christian tradition and defied the rule of God. Protestants will burn in Hell&#33;

2. Germany in 1933 was a mostly protestant country, meaning that a majority of protestants had voted for Hitler, supported him, filled his armies, gassed Jews at concentrationcamps. Not to forgot that homosexuals, gypsies, communists, socialists and unionists were gassed too, but you as a loving Christian wouldn&#39;t care about that.

3. Fortunatly for you, most Churches did put up a poster of Hiter in Church. They did it with great enthousiasm and without protest. [/b]
Wow, you&#39;re a moron. I&#39;m not going to rebut the same filth twice.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:33 PM
Ever read the Bible, lol, ok, stupid question to ask a comme. Catholics put up statues of the saints, Peter, Paul, and dead nuns. The Ten Commandments instruct that God&#39;s followers are "to make no false or graven images of me"

I&#39;ve watched these people pray to dead nuns and saints, they take whatever they want from the Bible and ignore the rest.

Ever since the selling of indulgances, the Catholic church has long been decadent.
Yes, I was on two Christian schools. I have read the bible and I a couple at home.

First. Catholics do not make statues of God, they make statues of saints. The bible doesn&#39;t forbid making statues of Saints.

Second. I bet that you are not a good Christian. I mean have you even killed a homosexual, a rebellious child or bought a girl as your sex-slave. I bet not. While the Bible explicitly advocates these. Untill the day that you buy a girl as your sex-slave, you will be considered material for hell.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:35 PM
Wow, you&#39;re a moron. I&#39;m not going to rebut the same filth twice.
I adress different points. But smooth way to refute points. The next time that you say "Dem KumMieZ Wantz ZteAl MA FreDom", I will say to you to you back:

"Wow, you&#39;re a moron. I&#39;m not going to rebut the same filth twice."

[fernando]

Ever read the Bible, lol, ok, stupid question to ask a comme. Catholics put up statues of the saints, Peter, Paul, and dead nuns. The Ten Commandments instruct that God&#39;s followers are "to make no false or graven images of me"


First:
I&#39;ve tried to read the Bible...but like Mein Kampf it was a very boring book...nice fairy tales though...

Second:
Did I ever saw I was a communist, that is what you mean with "comme" right? Dont call me something Im not&#33;

Third:The images of the saints etc are not God himself, so they are not breaking his rule, you should get that right?


I&#39;ve watched these people pray to dead nuns and saints, they take whatever they want from the Bible and ignore the rest.

I watched people pray to something their ancestors made up because they were afraid to face reality...your point being?


Ever since the selling of indulgances, the Catholic church has long been decadent.
Hmm...the catholic church is bad for being decadent...what about capitalism them huh? You must surely hate that system then, letting people persue their decadent needs freely if they can afford it...


Wow, you&#39;re a moron. I&#39;m not going to rebut the same filth twice.
No...it is you who is the moron here, you see things that are not exactly the way you perceive the world to be as "filth" but then again you are a Christian, what else could we expect of you huh ;)

[the RIGHT=FREEDOM]

Originally posted by Non&#045;Sectarian Bastard&#33;+Feb 5 2005, 05:40 PM--> (Non-Sectarian Bastard&#33; @ Feb 5 2005, 05:40 PM)
the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:33 PM
Ever read the Bible, lol, ok, stupid question to ask a comme. Catholics put up statues of the saints, Peter, Paul, and dead nuns. The Ten Commandments instruct that God&#39;s followers are "to make no false or graven images of me"

I&#39;ve watched these people pray to dead nuns and saints, they take whatever they want from the Bible and ignore the rest.

Ever since the selling of indulgances, the Catholic church has long been decadent.
Yes, I was on two Christian schools. I have read the bible and I a couple at home.

First. Catholics do not make statues of God, they make statues of saints. The bible doesn&#39;t forbid making statues of Saints.

Second. I bet that you are not a good Christian. I mean have you even killed a homosexual, a rebellious child or bought a girl as your sex-slave. I bet not. While the Bible explicitly advocates these. Untill the day that you buy a girl as your sex-slave, you will be considered material for hell. [/b]
These people pray to dead nuns and saints, I&#39;ve watched them with my own eyes. The Ten Commandments instruct God&#39;s followers to "worship or any images before me", like I&#39;ve said, I&#39;ve watched these people worship and pray to statues of nuns and saints. This is IDOL WORSHIP.

Some parts of the Bible are outdated, like how it degrades women. I disagree with these parts, like killing homosexuals.

I am already material for hell anyway, so I&#39;m going to go ahead and disagree with these certain parts in the Bible.

[fernando]

So you only agree with the parts of your religion which you like or make you look better as a person...what a hypocrite are you&#33;&#33;&#33;

[the RIGHT=FREEDOM]

Originally posted by Non&#045;Sectarian Bastard&#33;+Feb 5 2005, 05:27 PM--> (Non-Sectarian Bastard&#33; @ Feb 5 2005, 05:27 PM)
Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Non&#045;Sectarian Bastard&#33;@Feb 5 2005, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:02 PM

[email protected] 5 2005, 04:57 PM
As if Christianity was so great for the world...the greatests genocides in our history were commited in the name of the Christian God...
Nice try, Hitler was no Christian.
Phunny. Hitler was partly sponsored by the Catholic Party and the Pope supported Hitler.
First off, Catholics really aren&#39;t Christians, if you&#39;d like me to elaborate on that for you, I&#39;d be glad to.

Hitler also indirectly killed six million Jews, Christ&#39;s own people.

He wanted his people to believe he was God, he closed down all churches, who wouldn&#39;t replace Christ&#39;s image with his own.
LIAR&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LIAR&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

1. Catholics are part of the original Christian trend. It was the Protestants who broke with Christian tradition and defied the rule of God. Protestants will burn in Hell&#33;

2. Germany in 1933 was a mostly protestant country, meaning that a majority of protestants had voted for Hitler, supported him, filled his armies, gassed Jews at concentrationcamps. Not to forgot that homosexuals, gypsies, communists, socialists and unionists were gassed too, but you as a loving Christian wouldn&#39;t care about that.

3. Fortunatly for you, most Churches did put up a poster of Hiter in Church. They did it with great enthousiasm and without protest. [/b]
It was the Catholics who were defying God and the Gospel of Christ by selling indulgences. Martin Luther just pointed this out and started another sect of Christianity that didn&#39;t ignore the Gospels for financial gain.

Hitler was an atheist who pretended to be a Christian.

[the RIGHT=FREEDOM]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 05:57 PM
So you only agree with the parts of your religion which you like or make you look better as a person...what a hypocrite are you&#33;&#33;&#33;
Well I can&#39;t help it.

[Zingu]

Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 05:53 PM

Some parts of the Bible are outdated, like how it degrades women. I disagree with these parts, like killing homosexuals.

I am already material for hell anyway, so I&#39;m going to go ahead and disagree with these certain parts in the Bible.
Yes, the word of god must be updated when it is rendered obsolete by the progression of society, how authentic.

(note sarcasm)

[fernando]

Hitler was an atheist who pretended to be a Christian.
Arent you contradicting yourself here a little bit, first you said that Hitler claimed to be a God, how can Hitler claim that is he was an atheist (see your posts)?

[the RIGHT=FREEDOM]

Originally posted by Zingu+Feb 5 2005, 06:02 PM--> (Zingu @ Feb 5 2005, 06:02 PM)
the [email protected] 5 2005, 05:53 PM

Some parts of the Bible are outdated, like how it degrades women. I disagree with these parts, like killing homosexuals.

I am already material for hell anyway, so I&#39;m going to go ahead and disagree with these certain parts in the Bible.
Yes, the word of god must be updated when it is rendered obsolete by the progression of society, how authentic.

(note sarcasm) [/b]
It&#39;s true, some parts must be. I&#39;m no zealot.

[Zingu]

Hitler was an atheist who pretended to be a Christian.

Adolf Hitler was emphatically not an atheist. As he said himself:

The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God&#39;s will, and actually fulfil God&#39;s will, and not let God&#39;s word be desecrated.

For God&#39;s will gave men their form, their essence, and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord&#39;s creation, the divine will. Therefore, let every man be active, each in his own denomination if you please, and let every man take it as his first and most sacred duty to oppose anyone who in his activity by word or deed steps outside the confines of his religious community and tries to butt into the other.

[...]

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
[Adolf Hitler, from "Mein Kampf", translation by Ralph Mannheim.]


Hitler certainly appeared at times to be a theist, and claimed to be a Christian:

The Führer made it known to those entrusted with the Final Solution that the killings should be done as humanely as possible. This was in line with his conviction that he was observing God&#39;s injunction to cleanse the world of vermin. Still a member in good standing of the Church of Rome despite detestation of its hierarchy ("I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so" [quoting Hitler]), he carried within him its teaching that the Jew was the killer of God. The extermination, therefore, could be done without a twinge of conscience since he was merely acting as the avenging hand of God -- so long as it was done impersonally, without cruelty.
[John Toland (Pulitzer Prize winner),
from "Adolf Hitler", pp 507, talking about the Autumn of 1941.]


The "I am now as before a Catholic..." quotation from Hitler was recorded in the diary of Gerhard Engel, an SS Adjutant, in October 1941. Hitler was speaking in private, not before a mass audience, and so it is difficult to dismiss the comment as propaganda lies.

[comrade_mufasa]

Originally posted by the RIGHT=FREEDOM+Feb 5 2005, 11:37 AM--> (the RIGHT=FREEDOM &#064; Feb 5 2005, 11:37 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 04:52 AM

[email protected] 4 2005, 05:17 PM
Strange how people could be so afraid of something that&#39;s just a dream.
what is really strange is that all of these cappis think that we want to rule the world so that we can be dictators. When all we want is to help the oppressed masses.
Then you need to become a Christian. [/b]
I am Christian. Have you ever heard of the Ethopian Orthodox Church. I dont sopport everything in the bible, and if that gives my a seat in hell then so be it.

The Catholics are christians that dont know what the hell they are doing. They gained power then they went crazy. No religion should be allowed to have any power that is a point of communism and partly the reson that I consider myself a communist.

Hitler was atheist. Nazism has no religous faith itself.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by the [email protected] 5 2005, 06:53 PM
These people pray to dead nuns and saints, I&#39;ve watched them with my own eyes. The Ten Commandments instruct God&#39;s followers to "worship or any images before me", like I&#39;ve said, I&#39;ve watched these people worship and pray to statues of nuns and saints. This is IDOL WORSHIP.

Some parts of the Bible are outdated, like how it degrades women. I disagree with these parts, like killing homosexuals.

I am already material for hell anyway, so I&#39;m going to go ahead and disagree with these certain parts in the Bible.
So what. Atleast they worship something which is exists. Kneeling, staring at an empty spot makes as much sense as worshipping a statue. It actually makes even less sense. A statue atleast exists.

Stating that the bible, thus the word of God is outdated, defies God itself. It defies "truth". You as a Christian believe that the bible is the truth. You can not have an own opinion on this. You have to kill a homosexual and hold a girl as a sex-slave in order to be a good christian.

What is the point of life without rewards, as you cappies scream out so loud. So what&#39;s the point of being a Christian when you know that you will end up in hell anyway?

Furthermore Jesus, said that a Camel has a bigger chance going through the eye of a needle, then a rich man (capitalist) has entering heaven. Furthermore there is the incident with the fish and bread, distributed equally among the hungry. Jesus was an anti-capitalist&#33;

You are a Christian, as the bible states; you are a sheep and the Lord is your shepherd. A sheep is not suppossed to have an own opinion, nor to question the authority of it&#39;s shepherd. There is no room for individuality in Christianity, only for braindead zombies.

You have to choose - Christianity or you.