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Veritas
4th February 2005, 02:28
I have seen on this site so many types of communism. Mao communists, Che, Socialists, Castro, Stalinist, I even mentioned biblical. Which one is the real deal?

New Tolerance
4th February 2005, 02:33
the "real deal". ..

Everyone will probably say that 'their' ideology (whatever it is) is the "real deal". And there are probably as many ideologies as there are individuals.

If you are expecting some single grand representative that we have to tell you what 'we' stand for then you are out of luck. There is no such representative.

Veritas
4th February 2005, 02:40
Originally posted by New [email protected] 4 2005, 02:33 AM
the "real deal". ..

Everyone will probably say that 'their' ideology (whatever it is) is the "real deal". And there are probably as many ideologies as there are individuals.

If you are expecting some single grand representative that we have to tell you what 'we' stand for then you are out of luck. There is no such representative.
Well, if you can't agree on what is the best method, it will never happen. And if that is the case, why keep on debating or working for it? Is there anything all can agree on? Other than anyone that opposes is bad. That is a given.

New Tolerance
4th February 2005, 02:43
Well, if you can't agree on what is the best method, it will never happen.

How does this make any sense?

Back in the early days of political democracy, not everyone agreed on how democracy was supposed to work, whether if there should be the property franchise or if representative should be directly elected (and who gets to vote etc). But it still came about did it not?


Is there anything all can agree on?

Sure, support for public institutions and the working class is fairly uniform for starters.

Zingu
4th February 2005, 02:46
Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 02:40 AM

Well, if you can't agree on what is the best method, it will never happen. And if that is the case, why keep on debating or working for it? Is there anything all can agree on? Other than anyone that opposes is bad. That is a given.
We all want the same thing in the end, its just we have different methods of getting there.

The most dominant ideology of the last century was Leninism; and most of its branches of Maoism and Stalinism.
Views change as time goes along; the more libertarian left is gaining more support now as the Soviet Union felll; Leninism went with it.

NovelGentry
4th February 2005, 02:49
I have seen on this site so many types of communism. Mao communists, Che, Socialists, Castro, Stalinist, I even mentioned biblical. Which one is the real deal?

These are all methods to achieve communism, not types of communism. There is only a singular shared definition of communism as far as I've seen.


Well, if you can't agree on what is the best method, it will never happen. And if that is the case, why keep on debating or working for it?

Some of us don't believe we have to agree. Some of us believe there is solidarity despite our disagreements and that when the outset of socialist revolution is upon us those ideologies will fly out the window until, at the very least, the capitalist state has been destroyed.


Is there anything all can agree on?

Capitalism is not the final stage of man.

encephalon
4th February 2005, 10:20
Capitalism is not the final stage of man.

and revolution is the only viable method of shedding capitalism. Thus the whole "revolutionary left" thing.