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ComradeJunichi
19th July 2002, 16:10
Can someone explain the differences? I know the basics, but...yeah.........
truthaddict11
19th July 2002, 17:10
to start there isnt any difference between Democrats and Republicans or as i call them Republocrats. Just look at the 2000 election both Gore and Bush were both pro death penalty pro WTO pro drug war and both had connections to nazist censor groups such as the PMRC.
komsomol
19th July 2002, 18:01
Its a funny thing since the Democrats call themselves republicans and the republicans call themselves democrats.
pastradamus
19th July 2002, 19:43
Thats the republican & democratic parties in america.Thats not what republicanism & democracy means!
check it up here http://www.fast-times.com/political/political.html
ComradeJunichi
19th July 2002, 22:29
Okay, so I'm wondering...If your a communist are you a liberal?
"If your a communist are you a liberal?"
No, I wouldn't say that at all. While Leftists, including communists, tend to hold liberal social views, they do not agree with Liberal analysis of the State.
From Tim Wise:
"'What's the difference between a radical and a liberal?' It is a question I'm regularly asked at lectures, usually by college students struggling with their own sense of the world, trying desperately to figure out where they stand on the seemingly endless spectrum from right to left. Often it is put to me by College Democrat types: folks who are frustrated by their party's lack of commitment to social and economic justice, but who can't quite bring themselves to break with the group they consider the only alternative to the far right.
"Usually, I answer the question in the fairly predictable way: by explaining that at the most basic level, the difference between radicals and liberals is one of focus, and where one places the crux of the problem for our current predicament, whatever that might be. In terms of economics, liberals tend to believe that the larger system of which we are a part is basically just, and that injustices and negative goings-on within that system are mere unintended consequences of an otherwise well-oiled and beneficent machine: a little tinkering here, a little reform there, perhaps a little more money for those at the bottom, and everything will basically be O.K.
"On the other hand, the radical believes that the system itself is the problem: in terms of economics this means that the system of profit does not create hardship as the unfortunate sidelight of an otherwise warm-and-fuzzy social order; rather, we believe that the pain experienced by people under such a system is very much inherent to that system, and is in fact required by it in order to function. People are out of work in such a system, and thus poor and even destitute, not because the system is breaking down; but indeed, because it is working exactly as intended."
Full Story (http://www.zmag.org/zsustainers/zdaily/2000%2D05/10wise.htm)
The communist would agree with the second idea, that it is the system itself that is flawed.
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