Hugo Chavez Speaks at the World Social Forum

[refuse_resist]

Hugo Chavez Speaks at the World Social Forum
By Mike Rhodes
January 30, 2005

Porto Alegre, Brazil - Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela came to the World Social Forum in Porto Alegre, Brazil today. Speaking at a press conference, before attending a 6 PM rally at the Gigantinho stadium, Chavez spoke about the increasing tension with Colombia. Rumors have been circulating throughout the forum that the United States was trying to provoke Colombia to attack Venezuela, and overthrow Chavez. After an incident between the two countries last week, Chavez said, “all of the nations in Latin America came together to get the two countries to work out their differences.” The United States was the only country in the world encouraging Colombia to take hostile action against Venezuela.

Chavez was adamant that capitalism will not solve the problems of hunger and poverty in the world. He said “we need to re-invent socialism. It won’t be the socialism that we saw in the Soviet Union, but it will emerge as we develop systems that are built on cooperation, not competition.” Venezuela now has 20,000 Cuban doctors in their country and is providing Cuba with oil. Venezuela has a lot of oil to sell and that is one of the reasons why the United States is so interested in the country.

Chavez spoke about the role of the military in Latin America. He said that he was a military man and that his friends are in the military. Chavez said “my role model for the military is Simon Bolivar (the liberator of Latin America, from the Spanish) and I believe that the role of the military is to protect the people. The last thing the military should do is to sell themselves to the imperialists or to the oppressive sectors of society. They should defend the people. The soldier that turns against the people should be damned.”

Turning to the issue of the media, Chavez said that he has started an initiative to make the media more responsive to the needs of the people. He said that the media, particularly in the United States, has portrayed him as a negative figure. “The L.A. Times, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and others are always showing pictures of me shaking hands with Saddam Hussein and Moammar Kadafi. Sure, I met with them but I have also met with Bill Clinton and the Pope but they (corporate media) do not print those pictures.”

A law has been passed in Venezuela limiting what the media can report and broadcast. In addition to blunting the corporate media’s constant attacks of Chavez, these laws will also limit the amount of sex and violence in the media. Chavez said that the new laws “allow journalists to criticize me but they are not allowed to call for the overthrow of the government or advocate terrorist acts.” Some media observers are uncomfortable with this censorship and worry about what will happen if the right wing comes to power.

The press conference itself was an interesting event. Chavez allowed five questions from the hundreds of journalists in attendance. The first two questions were reserved for members of the alternative/independent media, one for press agencies, one from a journalist from Venezuela, and another for a Brazilian journalist. The press conference was nothing like the staged events held by the Bush administration. Journalists were free to ask any question they wanted with no fear of retaliation. If a reporter asks the president of the United States a question that makes him uncomfortable, that reporter is put on a list and not invited back. He or she may even be fired from their job. The openness with the press by Hugo Chavez was in stark contrast to the threats and intimidation experienced by U.S. journalists covering their president.

The 5th World Social Forum brought over 100,000 people together for the last four days under the banner of “Another World is Possible.” With over 2,000 workshops, an opening day march with 200,000 participants, and representatives from over 100 countries the event was an overwhelming success.

http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/01/1718352.php

[bolshevik butcher]

This sounds good. Doubt the U$'ll let it last, wonder who's next in the war on "terror"?

[NyChe21]

"many, many Vietnams."

I think that says it.

But in President Bush's own words:

"Bring it on."

[CommieDuK]

nice speech !!can someone post the brazilian's president speech??

[refuse_resist]

Caracas, Jan 30, 2005 (Venezuelanalysis.com).- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez was warmly received at the 2005 edition of the World Social Forum in Porto Alegre, Brazil, where he held several meetings with local leaders, intellectuals and activists, and gave the closing speech at the Gigantinho Stadium. Chavez generated great interest among Forum participants, many of whom see Chavez and his project of political transformations being implemented in Venezuela, as an inspiration in the struggles for a more better world.

The Venezuelan President visited the Lagoa do Junco agrarian settlement in Tapes set up by Brazil's Landless Movement (MST), and later held a press conference with more than 120 media organizations, where he criticized the U.S. government for claiming to lead a fight against terrorism while undermining Democracy in Venezuela.

Chavez highlighted the recent creation of Latin American satellite TV network TeleSur, "which will allow us to tell our people’s reality in our own words." He added that TeleSur will be at the disposal of the people, not of governments.

The leader added that his country's military forces are undergoing a period of modernization of its weapon systems and resources, but asserted that it is aimed at defending the country's sovereignty. "Venezuela will not attack anybody, but don’t attack Venezuela, because you will find us ready to defend our sovereignty, and the project we are carrying forward," he added.

"The FTAA is death"

During the closing speech at the Gigantinho Stadium, the president added that 2005 arrived and the FTAA was not implemented. "The FTAA is death, what they go was mini-FTAA’s because the U.S. imperialism did not have the strength to impose the neocolonial model of the FTAA."

The President highlighted the Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas (ALBA), a proposal made by Venezuela in opposition to the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas (FTAA), and which emphasizes social and cultural exchanges above profit-based economic deals. "We can’t wait for a sustained economic growth of 10 years in order to start reducing poverty through the trickledown effect, as the neoliberal economic theories propose."

He praised the cooperation with Cuba, which, along with several Central American countries, receives Venezuelan oil at below market prices, in exchange for assistance in healthcare, education, agriculture and other areas. He highlighted that about 20.000 Cuban doctors work in Venezuela at free medical clinics in poor neighborhoods, and that Venezuela has used a Cuban literacy method approved by UNESCO that has allowed more than 1.3 million Venezuelans learn how to read and write. He said Venezuela is using Cuban vaccines, which now allow poor children to be vaccinated against diseases such as hepatitis.

The President criticized alleged media distortions with regard to plans by Fidel Castro and him to spread Communism in the Americas, overthrow governments and set up guerrillas, "after 10 years it seems like we haven’t been very successful."

"Cuba has its own profile and Venezuela has its own, but we have respect for each other, but we celebrate accords and advance together for the interest of our peoples." He said that any aggression against either country will have to confront the other, "because we are united in spirit from Mexico down to the Patagonia."

Chavez said U.S.-Venezuela political relations are unhealthy because of “permanent aggressions from there”. He criticized U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice who recently asserted that Chavez was “a negative force in the region.” He said those relations will stay unhealthy as long as the U.S. continues its policies of aggression. "The most negative force in the world today is the government of the United States," he said.

The President criticized the U.S. government for asking other countries to pressure Venezuela in the crisis with Colombia over the kidnapping of a Colombian guerrilla activist in Caracas last December. “Nobody answered their call… they are more lonely everyday.” He praised the cooperation of other Latin American countries in the resolution of the crisis, and mentioned that Cuban President Fidel Castro held talks with Colombian President Jorge Uribe to try to help in the resolution of the crisis. Chavez agreed to meet Uribe early in February to settle the dispute.

"Imperialism not invincible"

Chavez added that U.S. imperialism is not invincible. "Look at Vietnam, look at Iraq and Cuba resisting, and now look at Venezuela." In reference to the recommendations of some of his close advisors, he said that "some people say that we cannot say nor do anything that can irritate those in Washington." He repeated the words of Argentine independence hero José de San Martin "let’s be free without caring about anyone else says."

"When imperialism feels weak, it resorts to brute force. The attacks on Venezuela are a sign of weakness, ideological weakness. Nowadays almost nobody defends neoliberalism. Up until three years ago, just Fidel [Castro] and I raised those criticisms at Presidential meetings. We felt lonely, as if we infiltrated those meetings."

He added that those ideological and economic weaknesses will continue to increase. "Just look at the internal repression inside the United States, the Patriot Act, which is a repressive law against U.S. citizens. They have put in jail a group of journalists for not revealing their sources. They won't allow them to take pictures of the bodies of the dead soldiers, many of them Latinos, coming from Iraq. Those are signs of Goliath's weaknesses."

"The south also exists"

He said there were old and new actors in the geopolitical map who are coming into the scene and have an influence in the weaknesses and strengths of the U.S. hegemony. "Today's Russia is not Yeltsin's... there is new Russian nationalism, and I have seen it in the streets of Moscow... there is a good president, Mr. Putin, at the wheel." He also praised China's fast economic growth, and highlighted the new Spanish socialist government, "which no longer bends its knees in front of U.S. imperialism."

"The south also exists... the future of the north depends on the south. If we don't make that better world possible, if we fail, and through the rifles of the U.S. Marines, and through Mr. Bush's murderous bombs, if the is no coincidence and organization necessary in the south to resist the offensive of neo-imperialism, and the Bush doctrine is imposed upon the world, the world will be destroyed," he said.

Chavez warned of drastic weather changes that would bring catastrophic events if no action is taken soon, in reference to uncontrolled or little regulated industrial activity. Chavez added that perhaps before those drastic changes take place, there will be rebellions everywhere "because the peoples are not going to accept in peace impositions such as neoliberalism or such as colonialism."

"The U.S. people are our brothers"

He added that all empires come to an end. "One day the decay inside U.S. imperialism will end up toppling it, and the great people of Martin Luther King will be set free. The great people of the United States are our brothers, my salute to them."

"We must start talking again about equality. The U.S. government talks about freedom and liberty, but never about equality. "They are not interested in equality. This is a distorted concept of liberty. The U.S. people, with whom we share dreams and ideals, must free themselves… A country of heroes, dreamers, and fighters, the people of Martin Luther King, and Cesar Chavez."

Christ "revolutionary"

Chavez thanked Spanish intellectual and director of Le Monde Diplomatique Ignacio Ramonet for saying that Chavez was a new type of leader. He said he is inspired by old types of leaders such as Christ, whom he described as "one of the greatest anti-imperialist fighters, the redeemers of the poor, and one of the greatest revolutionaries of the history of the world." The President mentioned Venezuela’s independence hero Simon Bolivar, Brazil's José Ignacio Abreu Elima, Che Guevara, "that Argentine doctor that traveled through the continent in a motorcycle and who was a witness of the U.S. invasion of Guatemala in 1955, one of the many invasion of the U.S. empire in this continent," and Cuban President Fidel Castro.

“Capitalism must be transcended”

"Everyday I become more convinced, there is no doubt in my mind, and as many intellectuals have said, that it is necessary to transcend capitalism. But capitalism can’t be transcended from with capitalism itself, but through socialism, true socialism, with equality and justice. But I’m also convinced that it is possible to do it under democracy, but not in the type of democracy being imposed from Washington," he said.

Chavez said that Venezuela is trying to implement a social economy. "It is impossible, within the framework of the capitalist system to solve the grave problems of poverty of the majority of the world’s population. We must transcend capitalism. But we cannot resort to state capitalism, which would be the same perversion of the Soviet Union. We must reclaim socialism as a thesis, a project and a path, but a new type of socialism, a humanist one, which puts humans and not machines or the state ahead of everything. That’s the debate we must promote around the world, and the WSF is a good place to do it."

He added that in spite of his admiration for Argentine revolutionary Che Guevara, he said Che´s methods are not applicable. "That thesis of one, two, or three Vietnams, did not work, especially in Venezuela."

The President cited Russian revolutionary Leon Trotsky by saying that "each revolution needs the whip of the counterrevolution to advance." He listed actions by the opposition and the U.S. government to drive him out of power. "But we resisted, and now have gone into the offensive. For instance, we recovered our oil industry... In 2004, from the oil industry budget we utilized $4 billion in social investments, education, health, micro-credits, scholarships, and housing, aimed at the poorest of the poor, what neoliberals call waste of money. But that is not a waste of money because it is aimed at empowering the poor so that they can defeat poverty. He added that "that money before stayed out of Venezuela or just benefited the rich."

He criticized privatizations by saying that "privatization is a neoliberal and imperialist plan. Health can’t be privatized because it is a fundamental human right, nor can education, water, electricity and other public services. They can’t be surrendered to private capital that denies the people from their rights."

Defends Lula

Chavez defended Brazilian President Luis "Lula" Da Silva, who has been sharply criticized by the Latin American left, and who was booed during his speech at the World Social Forum.

"I say this from the bottom of my heart. In Venezuela at the beginning of my presidency, many of my supporters criticized me and asked me to go at a faster pace [to implement changes], and be more radical, but I considered that it was not the right moment because each process has several phases and different rhythms that not only have to do with internal situations in each country, but with the international situation at the time. So, risking that you make some strange noise, I want to say that I like Lula, I appreciate him, and he is a good man, of a great heart. He is a brother, a comrade and I send him a hug, my love and affection. I'm sure that with Lula and the people of Brazil, with Nestor Kirchner and the Argentine people, with Tabaré Vasquez and the Uruguayan people, we will be opening the path to realizing the dream of a united Latin America."

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http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1486

[dopediana]

dammit, someone beat me to it. i went to the forum social mundial and didn´t get back till last night. i went and saw chavez. he has this tendency to delay his speech 2 or 3 hours just to get the tension in the crowd to rise. and boy did it rise. at first people were throwing around paper airplanes. i got hit in the head with one that was made from a flier about dignity. how ironic. then it was condom balloons saying "foda-se bush" (fuck you, bush). the whole time there were various guitarists singing and playing traditional songs like "guantanamera" and "gracias a la vida". it was pretty amazing. it was supposed to start at 5 but when chavez finally did appear it was 7. then it took an hour for members of the MST to dance around with flags on their back, people to sing a few more songs, etc. at 8 he finally started talking. and that article above pretty much sums up what he said. i´ve been trying to find a full translation of his speech online so far and i haven´t been able to, but what really is difficult to convey in words is what a powerful speaker chavez really is. i was just sitting there riveted. everyone loved chavez. he´s not all talk and he´s obviously very much with the program. lula was a different case. i didn´t get to the stadium in time to see him but even from a mile away i could hear people booing him. so lula lost his chance to be a success at the forum which won´t be held in brazil next year because lula´s partida dos trabalhadores lost all the elections last year and they were the organizers for all the forums up till now. then lula went to davos in mexico, the capitalist forum to which the FSM was created as an answer to, expecting to be seen as the president of the poor. however, the president of tanzania was able to garner a bunch of donations for mosquito nets. or something like that which completely upstaged lula who is losing his flair.
anyway, i think the forum is going to be held in venezuela or africa next year, probably venezuela considering what a wave hugo chavez made. you should all really try to go. it´s something else entirely. good vibes all around, nice people, huge variety of lectures and workshops to go to and cultural shows to see. the website is: http://www.forumsocialmundial.org.br

[Fidelbrand]

new socialism, a closer step towards genuine communism~ Bueno~

[seraphim]

I don't know as much as i'd like about Chavez, but I like what I hear can anyone fill me in some more about his background, political aspirations etc.

[Fidelbrand]

seraphim,

I will start tlaking about Fidel hen I talk about Chavez,, blah blahh... I rather give you this unbiased site, haha:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%E1vez

[seraphim]

perfect cheers

[Anarchist Freedom]

cool first thing I thought of when the thread read held in brazil I thought of you diana Tell me about it on aim. Im kind of at school now though soo wait till later...

[fuerzasocialista]

I've been hearing that Hugo Chavez is a dynamic speaker and I'd love to attend one of his speeches. The American media of course didn't cover this and the spanish media in the U$ didn't even go into detail (cause they are a bunch of subservient putas). This can only strengthen Latin America and continue it down the path to Socialism :)

[Fidelbrand]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 01:10 AM
I've been hearing that Hugo Chavez is a dynamic speaker and I'd love to attend one of his speeches. The American media of course didn't cover this and the spanish media in the U$ didn't even go into detail (cause they are a bunch of subservient putas). This can only strengthen Latin America and continue it down the path to Socialism :)
either way, we are in a win-win situation, the "libo-demo" system is doomed to fail.
hasta las putas comprender~! :P

[dopediana]

hugo chavez has had lots of time to develop his delivery style. and when he delivers, boy does he deliver. hah. anyway, the man never stops, earlier that day he´d been visiting some farmers that had been squatting on some land courtesy of the MST. then he came and gave his 2 hour speech. anyway, he´s pretty much latin america´s biggest hope. he´s practically a folk hero. there will be songs written about chavez, mark my words!