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Red Heretic
30th January 2005, 21:51
I want to start reading Trotsky, but I don't know where to start! Can anyone give me some recommendations as to which of his works I should start with, and then which works I should follow up with?

Thanks!

Seuno
30th January 2005, 22:49
Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 09:51 PM
I want to start reading Trotsky, but I don't know where to start! Can anyone give me some recommendations as to which of his works I should start with, and then which works I should follow up with?

Thanks!
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/index.htm

Go to their home page and there should be a search engine there.
http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky

Just a little reminder: "The Communists do not form a separate party opposed to the other working-class parties.

They have no interests separate and apart from those of the proletariat as a whole.

They do not set up any sectarian principles of their own, by which to shape and mould the proletarian movement. "


http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works...ifesto/ch02.htm (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm)

Red Heretic
31st January 2005, 05:17
Thanks!

Seuno
31st January 2005, 23:44
Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2005, 05:17 AM
Thanks!
My pleasure. Are you studying for University?

SonofRage
1st February 2005, 05:22
be sure to read this to protect yourself from the lies:

http://www.anarchism.ws/writers/anarcho/talks/marxism.html

Red Heretic
1st February 2005, 12:53
Well, I'm going to be writting a book soon, and it's for the development of my ideas before I do so.

h&s
1st February 2005, 15:33
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 05:22 AM
be sure to read this to protect yourself from the lies:

http://www.anarchism.ws/writers/anarcho/talks/marxism.html
Please note: the SWP are not to be mistaken for real Marxists.

The Feral Underclass
1st February 2005, 15:42
Originally posted by h&s+Feb 1 2005, 04:33 PM--> (h&s @ Feb 1 2005, 04:33 PM)
[email protected] 1 2005, 05:22 AM
be sure to read this to protect yourself from the lies:

http://www.anarchism.ws/writers/anarcho/talks/marxism.html
Please note: the SWP are not to be mistaken for real Marxists. [/b]
That's quite a brave statement to make. I'm interested to know how you came to that conclusion?

h&s
1st February 2005, 15:52
Respect - reformism gone far too far. And have you ever read their paper?

The Feral Underclass
1st February 2005, 16:21
Originally posted by h&[email protected] 1 2005, 04:52 PM
Respect - reformism gone far too far.
Good point.


And have you ever read their paper?

:lol:

Just once or twice

RevolverNo9
1st February 2005, 22:45
Yes, what sort of a Marxist organises under dear Mr Galloway...

Seuno
2nd February 2005, 00:29
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 12:53 PM
Well, I'm going to be writting a book soon, and it's for the development of my ideas before I do so.
My suggestion would be to excite the mind of the reader with these quotes added:


Atheism, as the denial of this unreality, has no longer any meaning, for atheism is a negation of God, and postulates the existence of man through this negation; but socialism as socialism no longer stands in any need of such a mediation. It proceeds from the theoretically and practically sensuous consciousness of man and of nature as the essence. Socialism is man’s positive self-consciousness, no longer mediated through the abolition of religion, just as real life is man’s positive reality, no longer mediated through the abolition of private property, through communism.

Communism is the position as the negation of the negation, and is hence the actual phase necessary for the next stage of historical development in the process of human emancipation and rehabilitation. Communism is the necessary form and the dynamic principle of the immediate future, but communism as such is not the goal of human development, the form of human society. [34]
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works...cripts/comm.htm (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/comm.htm)

Judaism reaches its highest point with the perfection of civil society, but it is only in the Christian world that civil society attains perfection. Only under the dominance of Christianity, which makes all national, natural, moral, and theoretical conditions extrinsic to man, could civil society separate itself completely from the life of the state, sever all the species-ties of man, put egoism and selfish need in the place of these species-ties, and dissolve the human world into a world of atomistic individuals who are inimically opposed to one another.
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works...stion/index.htm (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/index.htm)

Reactionary Socialism
Conservative or Bourgeois Socialism
Critical-Utopian Socialism and Communism http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works...ifesto/ch03.htm (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch03.htm)

They certainly catch my imagination and curiosity.