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KrazyRabidSheep
27th January 2005, 21:10
Need I say more? Accept Big Brother or get fired.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4213441.stm

Four workers in the United States have lost their jobs after refusing to take a test to see if they were smokers.

They were employees of Michigan-based healthcare firm Weyco, which introduced a policy banning its staff from smoking - even away from the workplace.

The firm says it is to keep health costs down and has helped 14 staff to stop smoking, but opponents say the move is a violation of workers' rights.

If the firm survives a potential legal challenge, it could set a precedent.

Weyco gave its staff a stark ultimatum at the end of last year - either stop smoking completely on 1 January or leave their jobs.

The four workers who refused to take the test left their jobs voluntarily, although a lawyer for Weyco confirmed the company was preparing to dismiss them.

The firm says that, as its business is to help other firms save money and improve employee health through its benefit plans, it is only natural it should take a lead on the issue.

"For every smoker who quits because of it, there will be many people - family members, friends, co-workers - who are very thankful the person won't be going to an early grave," said Weyco President Howard Weyers, in a message on its website.

Eating habits

But opponents say it is a violation of workers' rights to indulge whatever habits they choose to when they are off-duty, particularly as smoking is legal and does not impair people's ability to do their jobs.

According to Reuters news agency, Mr Weyers wants to turn his attention next to overweight workers.

"We have to work on eating habits and getting people to exercise. But if you're obese, you're (legally) protected," he said.

The BBC's Jannat Jalil in Washington says that if the firm survives any future legal challenges, it could set a precedent for other companies to follow suit.

"Certainly it raises an interesting boundary issue," job placement specialist John Challenger told Reuters. "Rising healthcare costs and society's aversion to smoking versus privacy and freedom rights of an individual."

redstar2000
28th January 2005, 13:10
Dark days for us smokers. We're closing in on Hitler's dream of a tobacco-free world. :(

Landlords are beginning to refuse to rent apartments to smokers.

It's now impossible to travel anywhere in the U.S. and smoke...except in a private automobile.

The way things are going, I would have to tell non-smokers not to start...even though they will miss one of life's great pleasures.

The hassle you will end up going through is just not worth it. :(

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bolshevik butcher
28th January 2005, 21:36
I can se ethe argument for not allowing smoking in public places, but in private you should be aloud to do what you like, within reason.

BOZG
29th January 2005, 00:27
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 02:10 PM


The way things are going, I would have to tell non-smokers not to start...even though they will miss one of life's great pleasures.
I like this one.

KrazyRabidSheep
29th January 2005, 03:18
I wouldn't have started except it saved me money.

It's cheaper then pot. When you've got a fag, you don't want that joint (you kind of trick your mind into thinking that you've got one)

I'd rather be smoking reefers, and I do when I can.
Cigars are better then smokes, too, but once again, they're more expensive.

Another plus with cigarettes is the smoke's not so hot. It's a pain filling the bong. . .ever tried it in a moving car? It's easier to just light and go.

xx_refused_xx
30th January 2005, 07:02
Yes yes, i've heard about that, how sad that capitalist are telling people what and how they should live there lives, always has been like this tho, just not as bad. Even my dad says this is bullshit, and he hates communism and ugh sad to say that he thinks mass murder is better then communism:( i don't get along with my family.....

praxis1966
30th January 2005, 11:33
I just don't see how this will ever stand up in court. Smoking is legal, period. It's like saying picking your nose is grounds for termination. What I can't figure out is, why the hell have smokers become the favorite whipping boy over the last 10 years or so? What about drinkers? You damn near have to leave Earth to have a square anymore.

The Sloth
30th January 2005, 14:39
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 01:10 PM
The way things are going, I would have to tell non-smokers not to start...even though they will miss one of life's great pleasures.
I hope you're joking.