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edwonders
25th January 2005, 02:21
Salutations,

Please find attached :

Permanent Revolution 'Che' 1024x768

Download at will if it catches your fancy.

The following 'explanation' has been posted post-'critique' by 'JudgeKure' & 'Tupac'.

Explanation:
Different people focus on different things or bring into focus different things. That does not mean that a focus on one as opposed to another is preferable though this is not to say that it is not debatable. In this context, it depends on what the artist wants to highlight and how this is achieved.

Che, embedded within the communist symbol, with a blurred revolutonary background, harkens to his specific quest in a broader scheme transcending time and space (as denoted by the revolutonary background and it being blurred.) He is one perspective in a revolutionary time that extends beyond his. The background (permanent revolution) will always remain. Only the actors (i.e. che, etc.) will change.

As for superimposition with the Da Vinci piece (the nude man). This is an allusion to the need to study the basic nature of humanity systematically (as brought out by the symetry and almost perfect proportion of Da Vinci's work) whilst debating on the proper system required to nurture this identity. Da Vinci's piece also admirably illustrates the western european cultural movement away from the subjectivity of 'christian' europe towards the 'objectivity' of scientific critique. Thus my usage of this image with the entire piece.

Simply translated : Che's (amongst others) quest in the revolutionary history, present and future of humanity for an egalitarian society has to be pursued with an ongoing systematic analysis of the nature of humanity and the socio-economic-political conditions that will best provide it the nurturance it rightly deserves.


postscript:
please disseminate at pleasure. No copyright imposed as all that i am, and thus, all that i create, is but one variant of that which can be created from the cultural/material/genetic resources that has been passed on to myself, as it has to all others, from time immemorial. All that is, is a variational development of all that has been. One generation to the next adding strokes to a myriad of masterpieces-in-progress. I am but one in a line of persons transcending time and space, passing on that which i receive, including my own contribution which is itself a concoction of the concotive creation of selfsame others.

Copyright Is Arrogance


edwonders

JudgeKure
25th January 2005, 03:53
Well besides the big ass Communist sign I dont like this image at all...

Mainly cause of the shit in the back that you CANT see...

Dont get me wrong...Its a nice image in the use of Wallpaper...But it was ALOT of problems on it...I think it could look alot better...I mean...Dont just focus on the Communist sign...Theres so much shit in the image besides that


Why is Leonardo Da Vinci's "Vitruvian Man" there next to Che in the Communist sign?

Tupac-Amaru
25th January 2005, 11:40
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 03:53 AM

Why is Leonardo Da Vinci's "Vitruvian Man" there next to Che in the Communist sign?
Yes, that's a good question...and why does his cock have to be on the hammer? Its kinda disturbing...makes you think very painfull thoughts :(

edwonders
27th January 2005, 05:05
As revolutionists, it would be prudent for the progressive growth of the movement to engage in a respectful critique of perspectives and not to use words that just serves to tone down our stance to little more than the offensive and vulgar one that is the hallmark of capitalist society. Consideration of each other's ideas has to be accompanied with equal effort to contradict such ideas intelligently, i.e. systematically and logically. If one is unable to do so, then one ought to resort to queries discursively put forward as opposed to arrogantly asserted.

Tupac-Amaru
11th February 2005, 18:33
ehhhm.............okay.

Livetrueordie
11th February 2005, 21:14
Thank you ed i apreciate it this is my new desktop.Excellent work