Anti-Gay Trash

[RaisedFistRebel]

I don't understand. This whole vast nazi right-wing anti-gay anti-semetic and anti-individual shit is way past un-american. It is punishable by treason, and according to the Declaration of Independence we have the right to VIOLENTLY overthrow these neocon fascist bastards. Why haven't we yet?

[Ian]

lack of popular support.

[KukkiKilla]

Because there's more of them than there are of us?

[RaisedFistRebel]

so what do we need to do to build a force large enough to destroy the conservative infrastructure?

[Comrade BNS]

Why would you want to?

People are entitled to their beliefs, whatever they may be. Sometimes acting those beliefs out is unacceptabnle, but people should ALWAYS be free to think and believe what they like, even if you do not agree with it.

If you restrict some people's ideas, then where do you draw the line? By doing so you are simply a economically fairer conservative basically.

Comrade BNS

[dso79]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 03:53 AM
I don't understand. This whole vast nazi right-wing anti-gay anti-semetic and anti-individual shit is way past un-american. It is punishable by treason, and according to the Declaration of Independence we have the right to VIOLENTLY overthrow these neocon fascist bastards. Why haven't we yet?
Nazis and neocons are two entirely different groups; nazis hate neocons just as much as we do.

[RaisedFistRebel]

Comrade BNS, I have no problem with the conservatives being entitled to their own beliefs and practicing them. I have a problem with them taking over the government and enforcing their beliefs on us. I'm not anti-conservative, I'm just against them enforcing their aristocratic beliefs on the people.

(Sorry about that whole nazi neocon thing, it was a mistake.)

[Anarchist Freedom]

Americans are pussies ill be honest. No common man would be willing to overthrow our current goverment. Anyways the american goverment can only last for soo long. NOTHING LASTS FOREVER PEOPLE!

[RaisedFistRebel]

i agree that nothing lasts forever, but i was born an american and i would be more than willing to overthrow the government (with some sort of force with me, of course). But the USA was founded on the principles of revolution and i am entitled to not let the country descend in to fascism as a true american. I will do anyting in my power to turn this country around.

[Union gal]

granted people have the rights to believe what they want, but i beleve that people also have a responcibillity to tolerate others, but, as we are all human, people who cant tolerate their fellow brothers and sisters are FRIGGIN BASTARDS!

[I've Defected]

I think things need to get much worse before they get better. US isnt ready right now for a communist revolution... but very, very soon the impacts of their imperalistic actions will be felt.

The revolution will come when the people want it... the worst thing to do is attempt it too early

[Theodore Bone]

The worst thing to do is just yell liberal words and put anti in front of everything. This is the reason rebellion will not occur, because the only reason people like rasied fist want it to happen is because it's "cool". I lack to think that a 14 year old knows anything about economic highs and lows, or about nazi's. Further more you say you would join a revolution, but when it coems down to it, I'd love to see you try and fight against an army like the US's. Give me a break there is no way that you will revolt in the US if not through peaceful means, disobedience not violence. A rebellion would be crushed in seconds. Raised I ask you too please know what you are talking about before you yell out cliche liberal terms, you sound like Al Franken's parrot. Stop,Stop,stop making false claims, you will not revolt, you are 14.

[RaisedFistRebel]

well im 15, i do know about nazi's. i was very angry when i posted this so its not the best thread. lastly, I DO NOT ACT THIS WAY TO BE COOL. i cant stand conformists and complacence. hating the government isnt cool, its bad. but when the people hate it enough, there is a justification for action. your respect for me is not is a good place theodore.

[Theodore Bone]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 01:53 AM
well im 15, i do know about nazi's. i was very angry when i posted this so its not the best thread. lastly, I DO NOT ACT THIS WAY TO BE COOL. i cant stand conformists and complacence. hating the government isnt cool, its bad. but when the people hate it enough, there is a justification for action. your respect for me is not is a good place theodore.
Well, that made little sense except proving my point. So are you saying people who hate the government individualy are bad but those who do it as a majority are cool? I don't have respect for you. I'm 16 and I am sick of all this total shit you have been posting, it sounds like you just lsitened to radio free america and then regergitated it back on to here.

[WarPigs4538]

Both of you grow up. you claim to be mature and clear think yet you fall back on that bullshit tactic of "I'm older than you so I'm better" Also, next to none of this thread is about the supposed topic listed. Offhand though, i agree with the idea of nonviolent resistance to conservative views. Most conservatives I've met become very confused when they cant make a huge fight out of something. Take violence out of the equation and i guarantee the Right will not know how to respond without looking like a load of facist pigs

[Theodore Bone]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 05:10 AM
Both of you grow up. you claim to be mature and clear think yet you fall back on that bullshit tactic of "I'm older than you so I'm better" Also, next to none of this thread is about the supposed topic listed. Offhand though, i agree with the idea of nonviolent resistance to conservative views. Most conservatives I've met become very confused when they cant make a huge fight out of something. Take violence out of the equation and i guarantee the Right will not know how to respond without looking like a load of facist pigs
I just stated I was 16, just so it doesn't look like I was picking on him.

On your claim, I have never gotten physical with someone who has conservative veiws ussually they don't bring it to that level. Unless it has to do with abortion, but then again I live in the NY so I can only imagine being liberal in a southern state and being enthusiastic about you're veiws and voicing against the conservative's. Non-Violence is the key.

[demonedge]

Well you live in America (the land of assault rifles for all) meh armed rebellion is close in the future, but against what is the question, will it be increasing corproate control over the daily lives of the common man, or a national governement, or possibly the child of both?

[demonedge]

ah crap forgot to add, non-violence is probably the best way to get anything done in this day, don't take my suggestion of armed rebellion to heart, I was being an ass.

[RaisedFistRebel]

i was not with it when i posted this thread. id like to please ask an admin to lock it.

[Rockfan]

Originally posted by Theodore [email protected] 26 2005, 01:46 AM
The worst thing to do is just yell liberal words and put anti in front of everything. This is the reason rebellion will not occur, because the only reason people like rasied fist want it to happen is because it's "cool". I lack to think that a 14 year old knows anything about economic highs and lows, or about nazi's. Further more you say you would join a revolution, but when it coems down to it, I'd love to see you try and fight against an army like the US's. Give me a break there is no way that you will revolt in the US if not through peaceful means, disobedience not violence. A rebellion would be crushed in seconds. Raised I ask you too please know what you are talking about before you yell out cliche liberal terms, you sound like Al Franken's parrot. Stop,Stop,stop making false claims, you will not revolt, you are 14.
dude hes 15, so what. he mite not know everything but at leased he knows something, more than most his age.Im 14, people like me and RaisedFistRebel may one day have to practise what you preach so i thing that respect and encoragement is essntal man.

[Theodore Bone]

I hope you practice Buddhism and a beat poetry, it's the only thing I preach, I do not seek revolution only enlightenment.

[CommoditiesAretheOpiumofPeople]

Well I'm 16 too but that doesn't mean that I claim to know more than a 14 year old. I don't think being an elitist is the way to enlightenment, neither do I think that buddhism is particularly communist in its approach as a world religion. But we're digressing slightly...revolution isn't, cool it's necessary for the social advancement of the world, social struggle is inevitably the only way that many of the world ills will be solved.

[bolshevik butcher]

Originally posted by Theodore [email protected] 26 2005, 01:46 AM
The worst thing to do is just yell liberal words and put anti in front of everything. This is the reason rebellion will not occur, because the only reason people like rasied fist want it to happen is because it's "cool". I lack to think that a 14 year old knows anything about economic highs and lows, or about nazi's. Further more you say you would join a revolution, but when it coems down to it, I'd love to see you try and fight against an army like the US's. Give me a break there is no way that you will revolt in the US if not through peaceful means, disobedience not violence. A rebellion would be crushed in seconds. Raised I ask you too please know what you are talking about before you yell out cliche liberal terms, you sound like Al Franken's parrot. Stop,Stop,stop making false claims, you will not revolt, you are 14.
Hey I now a reasnoble amount abut economic highs and lows, and Nazis. I'm only 15.

[Rockfan]

Well while your looking for "enlightenment" dont insult and delighten people. The amount a person knows can not be measure by age. Nurish the youth with the wisdom of the old.

[fuktheworld]

Communists, Anarchists, and political cynics alike. At this day in age, it is imparitive that we do not quarrel, our nubers are quickly decreasing, and so is our power. In order to attain the dream of our former comrades we must ban together and strive for our common goal. Do not bring your idealists fantisies along, leave them be, for the world in which we live in is an imperfect one, and if we fight for perfection then we will be fighting for nothing. There are steps we must meticulously follow to bring about social and political change. I do not ask for you to follow me but respond if you are ready to make a difference.

[trex]

Seriously, an armed revolt against the United States government? Remember waco? If not, let me jog your memory:a religious extremist group of 300 some followers were stockpiling weapons and preparing to overthrow the government. The Feds caught on to thier cache, and went to raid the compound. The sad, sad people inside refused to come out, so the FBI set a side corridor on fire to burn them out. Unfortunately, they stayed in.

Shay's rebellion remind you of anything? Well, that one was crushed my mercenaries;if the United States army won't stop you, someone will for a penny.

Whiskey rebellion? Crushed with no fighting. General Washington marched his troops into the hills, shouted for the farmers to come get some. They never came.

Revolting against a government where you can still say the leader is a 'fascist bastard fucktard son of a ***** whore shit eater', and post pictures of goatse on the internet is a little extreme. Which of your civil rights is infringed by the corruent neo-nazi anti-semite anti-gay anti-liberal buzzwords, aside from the Patriot act, which, as you have demonstrated here, will not get you arrested for speaking out against the government?

In 8 years, lots of people can lose thier jobs. THere are still plenty of Clinton workers in the top.