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Commie-K
23rd January 2005, 02:20
Ok, so this is a report I am writing for school. It is not very in-depth, but then my teacher has low expectations. In case you're wondering, I'm only a freshman in highschool; my apologies if it is bad, but that's why I posted it here. But anyways, just wondering what you guys think, opinions are encouraged. Thanks. (Also, sorry for posting it in politics, wasn't really sure where to post it.)




COMMUNISM

The meaning of communism is often distorted throughout the world, and most predominantly here in America. Our society teaches the stereotype that communism is evil and the enemy, which is totally false. Communisms image has been unfairly changed and its true meaning and pure form lost.

What, then, is true communism? A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members (dictionary.com). Youre probably wondering what this means. In a communist society, everyone is truly equal, social classes are abolished, and people work for the well being of society as a whole, rather than working just for their own good. People are truly equal because the government distributes property and possessions evenly throughout the people, making them equal in wealth, and in turn abolishing social classes. However, they are not only equal in wealth, but also in voice. In America we brag about our freedom of speech, which really is limited, even though it is a freedom much of the world doesnt have. People protesting are often arrested for reasons that arent valid; the poor dont have a voice, and our elite leaders more or less tell us what to think. This does not happen in a communist society; everyone really does have a voice which is equal to that of any other member. As a result of this concept, everyone is equal, and a supposed elite class does not control everything; it is the ultimate form of democracy.

Despite these things, most of the country still opposes communism, but why? Most of it is due to delusions and false stereotypes by the government: our government says that communism is bad simply because we had bad relations with the U.S.S.R. and Cuba. Also, the majority of this countrys citizens are greedy, and as a result, do not approve communism because they cant stand the fact that they would not be richer than anyone else. These people argue that greed is human nature, which is false. We are taught to be greedy from when we are young: throughout school, we are told that if we do not finish school we will not get a good job, and as a result will have no friends, live in a poor area, and be unhappy. Our capitalist society is all about being better than the person next to you and pushing them down to raise yourself up. This idea of greed can definitely be rid of if there is not incentive to be better than other people (more money, etc.) Currency would be eliminated in a communist society, so the argument that greed is human nature is invalid; it can be fixed. The final, and most convincing, reason against communism is that most attempts at it have resulted in dictatorships. This fact is undeniable, but communism cannot be blamed for it. Communism didnt cause Stalin to fall under capitalist incentives (greed, power) and oppress his people. In order for a communist society to be obtained, it must be the desire of every person within that society, or else it will be corrupt and eventually fail. While it is very difficult to obtain communism, it would be a wonderful thing if it was someday acquired. Most supporters of communism encourage it because everyone is equal; people are not selfish and greedy, and because a communist society is peaceful one, which does not imperialize.

The ideas of communism were inspired by the realization of the faults of capitalism. To begin, there have always been people who are richer than others, and as a result there have always been social classes. Social classes not only promote a ruling elite, but also oppress those who are not rich: social classes create poverty. The rich continually feed unfairly off the poors labor, making unjust immense profits. There have always been greedy people, people who care more about money than their fellow man. They do not care that they are vastly underpaying those who do the work and taking what money should be the workers as their own profit. This still happens today, the rich nations use the poor nations for cheap labor. Greedy CEOs are outsourcing jobs to third-world countries because they can get the poor to work for less than Americans will, and as a result, they receive higher profits. If third-world workers were paid what they deserve, their economies would get better and they would eventually work their way into being more industrialized nations. But this is the last thing our leaders want to happen; if these countries do not depend on us for jobs, we cant make unfair profits. Basically, by underpaying these workers, major corporations are allowing the process to repeat itself and causing the workers to depend on us for labor to sustain life. Some will argue that it is good we outsource jobs because it supports poor countries, but this is completely false. Greedy leaders see their need for work and exploit it. If they truly cared about these countries they would pay them real, deserving wages. Another fault realized in society was again attributed to greed. Leaders desiring more power and wealth start unreasonable wars to gain these things. This kind of globalization again oppresses some for the gain of others. This is evident when many wars have been claimed in the name of freedom but have really been about profit, whether it be land, oil, or anything else people desire. When these wars are won, (they almost always are because it is often a rich superpower invading a poorer country who cant support a strong military) one country gains more power and wealth, and the other is oppressed. Not only are their resources being taken without any kind of compensation, but also the people of the oppressed country are considered less than equal to those of the invading country. Globalization does nothing but oppress and cause more problems. Most of the faults noticed within society, (whether it be social classes, poverty, or imperialism) are, in fact, fueled by greed. People simply do not care that others are paying the price for their own personal interests and gain. Communism was inspired due to these realizations.

By now it should be evident that communism is not the enemy, but greed. People need to get past the stereotype that communism is evil and realize what really is going on. The government puts this stereotype on communism to keep the focus off the horrible things that they themselves are doing. Greed fuels many of these acts, and simply subjugates most for the gain of few. Despite common speculation, communism shares morals with many of the people who oppose it. A large amount of the public would agree with a society in which everyone was equal; in which everyones voice truly mattered; in which the rich didnt control. Communism is not bad; it is not the source of all evil. The stereotype might be lost and the true meaning re-obtained if people would just realize this.

h&s
23rd January 2005, 19:59
People are truly equal because the government distributes property and possessions evenly throughout the people
That is not communism - that is socialism. Communism is a society with no classes, money, but most importantly - no state. If you replace the word communism with socialism, your report will be quite good.

Commie-K
23rd January 2005, 20:38
Ok, thanks for clearing that up, h&s. Here is the revised sentence, "Equality in wealth is established before communism is enacted, while the country is still under socialism, the step before communism. During this stage, the government distributes property and possessions evenly throughout the people making them equal in wealth, and in turn abolishing social classes." Is that better? Thanks.

bolshevik butcher
24th January 2005, 17:53
Good report, what's it for? I think to call a majoraty of the citizens of the U$ greedy is a bit unfair, brain washed probably greedy no.

Commie-K
24th January 2005, 23:55
The report is for my Com Tech class (the stupidest computer class ever, but it's required in my high school), she gave us freedom to choose whatever we wanted. Yeah, I guess you're right Clenched Fist, that is more what I meant but I guess I didn't really notice it :) . Oh well, I turned it in today, so nevermind. She said she's not even grading it on content, just conventions. Haha, stupid teacher; such low expectations. Thanks for the input h&s and Clenched Fist.

Tupac-Amaru
25th January 2005, 12:29
That's prettygood. Especial since you're only 14 years old. I think its very important that you should have mentioned Marx somewhere allong...i mean, he did come up with the theory...wot grade did you get for it?

Commie-K
25th January 2005, 22:26
Yeah, I have information on Marx for my slideshow, but I left him out of the report on purpose, he wasn't the very first person to come up with it was he? It was my understanding that him and Engels were just the first to really preach it. I didn't want to take a leap and say that he was, so I left it out. My teacher won't know the difference :), but at least my presentation will talk about his contribution to communism. My teacher hasn't handed them back yet, (the report and presentation are the final for the class, she wants to get through them all before handing them back) but I'm pretty confident I received a good grade for it. Like I said in my previous posts, this teacher really has low expectations for us, she said all we needed lengthwise was to at least have started a second page (and it's double-spaced). But anyways, thanks again for the input.

Tupac-Amaru
26th January 2005, 09:07
Acctually, he did invent the theory. Sure, that revolutionary socialist spirit around ever since the French Revolution, you had people like J.-P. Proudhon and stuff BUT it was Marx that invent the idea of Communism, in his 1848 Communist Manifesto...so basicly, he did come up with the theory. :rolleyes: Ahhhhh what agreat man!!! :rolleyes:

cormacobear
26th January 2005, 10:55
Excellent essay. I might add a few stats, perhaps on the cosolidation of wealth, and the aversge quality of life in heavily unionized countries, these would help lend empirical evidence to your arguments. and here are a few things I might change though. Good luck

I would change which is totally false. To, regardless of the facts.

I would also start the second paragraph with Dictionary.com defines communism as..

Asking questions in the body of an essay is frowned apon
For the same reason I would change Youre probably wondering what this means. To
To elaborate in a communist society

In America we brag about our freedom of speech, which really is limited
In America we celebrate our freedom of speech

Despite these things, most of the country still opposes communism, but why?
Despite these advantages, most of the country still opposes Communism. This is in large part due to delusions and false steryotypes perpetuated by consolidated commerce based media and our own government.

and as a result, do not approve communism
and as a result, do not approve of communism

Basically, by underpaying these workers
In basic terms, by underpaying.

Commie-K
26th January 2005, 14:51
Thanks for all the help, everybody. Thanks for the clarification Tupac-Amaru, and thanks for the advice cormacobear. Is it really that good? I was expecting a bunch of criticism about wrongs within the essay. Well, I have to go to school, so thanks again all.

bolshevik butcher
26th January 2005, 16:31
It's a shame you weren't getting graded on the content. Keep it, another time it might be useful if you are getting graded on content.

Commie-K
1st February 2005, 23:56
Ok, so I finally am going to present my project tomorrow. My teacher previewed my slideshow and today she said she wanted to talk. She told me that I need to be careful what I say, because the presentation implied that I supported communism. Seems like she didn't read it at all, seeing how there's the part in it about people misconceiving it as evil and all. She said it was too opinionated, but she says nothing to the kid before me who did mormonism, like his wasn't at all opinionated. I can guarantee you that if it was anti-communism she would have no problem with that being my opinion. I love propaganda, and blind belief in it. I would consider my report pretty convincing against the 'evil-communist' theory, as I think most of you would. Would you not? She reads my report and then tells me to my face that I need to be careful about what I say? I honestly don't see what she finds detestable in it. Then she tells me that she doesn't want me to start a debate, like that was the sole purpose of my project. I tell her it's meant to be informative, not a debate, so that people actually open their eyes and realize what I'm saying. I mean, if somebody wants to ask me a question or something, I'll answer it, or defend myself, or whatever. I told her that I'm not going to invoke a debate, but if anybody wants too I don't care. Seriously, not to be arrogant or anything, but I know more about politics than the majority of people my age (15), and the people that would try to debate me (mormon-kid, if anybody will) don't have any idea what they're talking about. So they're only going to make themselves look stupid. I was so pissed off when she said this stuff to me, she totally disregarded and denied everything my report was about just to uphold the stereotype. I lost tons of respect for her. I hope a debate ends up happening to show her that I'm not stupid and actually know what I'm talking about ( even though it's rather evident from my report ). She tells us that we should stand up for what we believe in and be proud of it, but apparently that doesn't apply to communists, because they're evil right? In her eyes, I'm a nazi, she probably groups them and communists in the same category, along with terrorists. God, some people are so stupid, argh.

Tupac-Amaru
2nd February 2005, 07:20
You should say all of what you just told us in your presentation!!! That way the whole class knows that she's a fascist. If Amerikkka is such a "free" country, then why should you "be careful" about Communism, but the fuckin mormon kid can go and poison other people with his bullshit!???

You should just go all out and condem mormonism for being racist, sexist and capitalist. Mormons have only recently let black people into their church, and they say that black people are different cause they got "the mark of kane" or somethin wierd like that, and black people are not allowed to be priechers or anything. Similarly, women can't be priechers and they are encouraged to just stay at home and cook, and make more mormons!! And what kinda religion is a religion that forces hungry families to give 10% of their salery to their leader...some geezer named Smith or somethin. You should say that man!! And contrast that to Communism...

Commie-K
2nd February 2005, 15:42
Haha, no I'm not going to make fun of his religion. I only mess with christians, I can always get them stuck on the inconsistencies. But I don't really know that much about mormonism and I don't really want to learn about it just to I can talk bad about him. I've debated with him before about the elections and it's evident that he has no idea what he's talking about. He seriously told me that Bush is better because 'Kerry can't be trusted', like Bush can, haha. In the end, I was talking about the $7 trillion debt and he said to me 'I don't need to listen to your lies and idiocy!' I love people who won't open their eyes to other possibilities. I need to watch what I say? Is she a skinhead or something that is going to kill me.


You should just go all out and condem mormonism for being racist, sexist and capitalist.

Not only mormonism, but our entire country's history is filled with it. But of course if I were to point that out I'd be 'wrong', and I'm sure she'd try and cover it up. I have more to say, but it's not coming to mind right now, and I have to leave for school. Thanks for all the input, everybody.

Tupac-Amaru
2nd February 2005, 17:27
Originally posted by Commie-[email protected] 2 2005, 03:42 PM
I've debated with him before about the elections and it's evident that he has no idea what he's talking about. He seriously told me that Bush is better because 'Kerry can't be trusted', like Bush can, haha. In the end, I was talking about the $7 trillion debt and he said to me 'I don't need to listen to your lies and idiocy!' I love people who won't open their eyes to other possibilities.
WOW, i have a mormon in my class too and he's EXACTLY the same; totaly ingorant...amazing...the religion probably makes them be totaly retarded...

bolshevik butcher
2nd February 2005, 18:09
Originally posted by Tupac-Amaru+Feb 2 2005, 05:27 PM--> (Tupac-Amaru @ Feb 2 2005, 05:27 PM)
Commie-[email protected] 2 2005, 03:42 PM
I've debated with him before about the elections and it's evident that he has no idea what he's talking about. He seriously told me that Bush is better because 'Kerry can't be trusted', like Bush can, haha. In the end, I was talking about the $7 trillion debt and he said to me 'I don't need to listen to your lies and idiocy!' I love people who won't open their eyes to other possibilities.
WOW, i have a mormon in my class too and he's EXACTLY the same; totaly ingorant...amazing...the religion probably makes them be totaly retarded... [/b]
That's a bit unfare, there not all like that.

Commie-K
2nd February 2005, 22:03
Yeah, clenched fist, but most are :) .