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Divine Intellect
12th July 2002, 18:27
Anything that is stated in this post that you don't believe just look it up for your self.
PEACE (Proper Education Always Corrects Error)

Let freedom ring with a buckshot, but not just yet
First we need to truly understand the nature of the threat
And a pale man walks in the threshold of darkness
Roughly 20,000 years ago the first humans evolved
with the phenotypical trait, genetic recessive
Blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin
Albinism apparently was a sin to the original man, Africans
So the mutants traveled North of the equator
Called Europeans later, the first race haters
So here's the Devil's alpha to the beta
Cause history's best qualified to teach one
Quoting German philosopher Schopenhauer
"Every white man is a faded or a bleached one"
Migration created further mutation
Genetic drifts, evolution through recombination
Adaptation to the climate
As the Caucus Mountain man reverted to that of a primate
Savage Neanderthals, until the late Paleolithic age
That's when the Black Grimaldi man came
With the symbol of the dragon, fire and art
Check cave paintings in France and Spain to the Venus of Willendorf
Around 2000 B.C. Southern Russians migrate in small units
Those who travel West populated Europe
Those who went East settled in Iran, known as Aryans
1500 B.C. some crossed the Khyber Pass into India and
created Hinduism, the first caste system, the origins of racism
A white dot on the forehead meant elite
The black dot - defeat; untrustable, untouchables
They wrote the holy Vedas in Sanskrit
That's the language that created Greek, German, Latin and English
Now the Minoans around 2000 B.C.
Starts on the island of Crete, in the Agean Sea
The Greek culture begins Western Civilization
But "Western Civilization" means "White Domination"
Myceneans learned from Kemet, called Egypt in Greek
It existed since at least 3000 B.C.
Creatin geometry and astronomy
This knowledge influenced Plato, Socrates and Hippocrates
Cause Imhotep, the real real father of medicine
Was worshiped in Greece and Rome in the form of a Black African
The word Africa comes from the Greek "Aphrike"
meaning "without cold"; the word philosophy means "love of knowledge"
Stole from first man, Greek power expands
The first Greek fraternities band
The word gymnasium is Greek for "naked"
This was the place where adolescent boys were educated, and molested
This was accepted because Greek culture was homosexual
For example, Sappho trained girls on the island of Lesbos
Hence, the word lesbian (Ay let these dumb motherfuckers know)
December 25th, the birth of Saturn
A homosexual god, now check the historical pattern
December 25, now thought the birth of Christ
Was Saturnalia, when men got drunk,
fucked each other then beat their wife
Fact is, it was still practiced, til they called it Christmas
So put a gerbil on your Christmas list
The Hellenistic Era, Alexander the Great
Conquers all the way to India leavin four successor states
By the Fifth century B.C., R.O.M.E.
succeeds to be the conqueror of Egypt and Greece
But had the threat of the Black Phoenicians in Sicily
The Punic Wars began 264 B.C.
The Black general Hannibal and Carthaginian Peace
In 146 B.C. Carthage fell after a six-month siege
Rome sold every citizen to slavery
The first genocide of history
And more bisexuality in sight; Julius Caesar was known as
"every woman's husband and every man's wife" (BEOTCH!)
Spartacus Revolt, a slave rebellion that lost
Where 6,000 slaves was nailed on a cross
Cross? Aw, shit! Jesus Christ! Time for some-act-right
Christians get your facts right
Cause Christ was not his name
That's Greek for "One who is anointed"
Yoshua Ben Yosef was his name, do Christians know this?
So who do you praise, do you know his name?
Or do you do this in vain?
Accepting the religion they gave slaves to behave
Peep the description of historian Josephus
"Short, dark, with an underdeveloped beard was Jesus"
He had the Romans fearing revolution
The solution was to take him to court and falsely accuse him
After being murdered by Pilate how can it be
these same white Romans established Christianity
Constantine would later see the cross in a dream
In his vision, it read "En Hawk Signo Wonka":
"In this sign we conquer" - Manifest Destiny
In 325 he convened the Nicean Creed
And separated god into three
Decided Jesus was born on December 25th
and raised then on the third day is a myth
Plus to deceive us
Commissioned Michelangelo to paint white pictures of Jesus
He used his aunt, uncle, and nephew
Subconsciously that affects you
It makes you put white people closer to God
(Yo, 'The Man' got game like a motherfucker!)
True indeed, fuck it, Jihad
In the eight century Muslims conquered
Spain, Portugal and France and controlled it for 700 years
They never mention this in history class
cause o'fays are threatened when you get the real lesson
Moors from Baghdad, Turkey threatened European Christians
Meaning, the white way of life; hence the Crusades for Christ
On November 25th, 1491
Santiago defeats the last Muslim stronghold, Grenada
King Ferdinand gave thanks to God for victory
And the Pope of Rome and declared this date to forever be
A day of "Thanksgiving" for all European Christians

.. Now listen, when you celebrate "Thanksgiving"
What you are actually celebratin
is the proclamation of the Pope of Rome
Who later, in league with Queen Isabella
sent Cardinal Ximenos to Spain
to murder any blacks that resisted Christianity
These Moors, these black men and women
were from Baghdad, Turkey
And today, you eat the turkey, for your "Thanksgiving" day
as the European Powers destroyed the Turkeys
Who were the forefathers of your mothers and fathers
Now fight the power, you *****-ass niggaz!

Now around this time, Whites started callings us Negroes
That's Spanish for black object meaning we're not really people
but profit, and the triangle trade begins - they seize us
Queen Elizabeth sends the first slaves on a ship named Jesus
Stealin land from the indigenous natives
Gave them alcohol to keep the Red Man intoxicated
Whites claim they had to civilize these pagan animals
But up until 1848 there's documented cases
of whites bein the savage cannibals, eatin Indians
In 1992, it's Jeffery Dahmer
They slaughtered a whole race with guns
Drugs, priests and nuns
1763, the first demonic tactic of biological warfare
As tokens of peace, Sir Jeffery Amherst
passed out clothin and blankets to the Indian community
Infested with small pox, knowin they had no immunity
Today it's AIDS, you best believe it's man made
Cause ain't a damn thing changed.. let me explain
Now since people of color are genetically dominant
and Caucasoids are genetically recessive
and Whites expect to be predominant, meaning survive as a race then
they simply must, take precautions
That's why they're worried about their future now
Cuz by 2050, almost all the Earth's population
will be brown, then black, so understandin that, whites counterreact
(I'm sayin.. man.. them fools
ain't nothin but a teaspoon of milk in the world color majority)
So they created a system
to force blacks into an unnatural position
That re-enforces the position of natural inferiority
In addition, created guns and developed the ethnocentric view
that God justifies every fuckin thing they do
Condition people to perceive whites' culture as civilized
and every other culture considered primitive - not true!
Racism is the system of racial subjugation against nonwhites
in every areas of human relation
Entertainment, education, labor, politics
Law, religion, sex, war and economics
See blacks were 3/5ths of a man with tax purposes intended
You think you're Afro-American?
You're a 14th amendment and a good nigga
Jews don't salute the fuckin swastika
but niggaz pledge allegiance to the flag that accosted ya
They never teach about the break of islands like Jamaica
But before slaves came here whites would take a
pregnant women, hang her from a tree by her toes
Slice her stomach with a knife
and let the unborn baby fall to the flo'
And stop an unborn child in front of all the slaves
to inbreed fear, so they'd be scared and behave
and not rebel more
Understand all whites must be perceived as potential predators
I paraphrase historian Ishakamusa Barashango
"Understand that regardless of the lofty ideas ingraved on paper
in such documents as the Constitution or Declaration
the basic nature.. of the European American white man
remains virtually unchanged".. so check
This is the nature of the threat

-Ras Kass "The Nature of Threat.

The truth can only set our minds free. If we are only open minded.

Supermodel
12th July 2002, 20:03
So easy to list
crimes of men white and Hispanic
because of the culture
of documentation and record.

Yet history repeats
the unspeakable cruelty
of man against his brother and sister
regardless of origin or time

The horrors, too true
supplemented can be
by the horrors of tribal life under African skies
in every century.

Who started slavery?
Not white man or cafe au lait....
now you explain to me why it matters who started it
or who practices it now, most recently.

We are all condemned
by our mistrust of man
will mistreatment ever end
when even loved ones slay each other

When a mother drowns her five in the bath
a dad kills mom because he loves her too much to let her leave
Jihad against stranger
thousands on the death rolls
yet thousands born, same day, same city

I have nothing to add, no words of help
except a commitment to the world
I birthed two new humans, perfect, yes, pink
Not black or cafe, they are albinos you think

I think they are here
for a purpose so large
They know of Che, Ghandi, MLK
Doctrine they hear only from me

So stop the focus on
the justification of why we kill our own
Because we also birth our own
and would die to defend them

I cannot save this nation
I cannot save this jihad
I cannot save a life
But I created two, and I have my own.

Together at least my clan will work for the betterment.

pastradamus
12th July 2002, 20:27
im too lazy to read all that,so im just gonna say i agree ;)

ComradeJunichi
12th July 2002, 21:32
I second that...I'm too lazy to read now...

Red Revolution
12th July 2002, 21:50
Yer I'm sure I'd agree, well after reading the first bit.

Lardlad95
12th July 2002, 21:56
Quote: from Divine Intellect on 6:27 pm on July 12, 2002
Anything that is stated in this post that you don't believe just look it up for your self.
PEACE (Proper Education Always Corrects Error)

Let freedom ring with a buckshot, but not just yet
First we need to truly understand the nature of the threat
And a pale man walks in the threshold of darkness
Roughly 20,000 years ago the first humans evolved
with the phenotypical trait, genetic recessive
Blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin
Albinism apparently was a sin to the original man, Africans
So the mutants traveled North of the equator
Called Europeans later, the first race haters
So here's the Devil's alpha to the beta
Cause history's best qualified to teach one
Quoting German philosopher Schopenhauer
"Every white man is a faded or a bleached one"
Migration created further mutation
Genetic drifts, evolution through recombination
Adaptation to the climate
As the Caucus Mountain man reverted to that of a primate
Savage Neanderthals, until the late Paleolithic age
That's when the Black Grimaldi man came
With the symbol of the dragon, fire and art
Check cave paintings in France and Spain to the Venus of Willendorf
Around 2000 B.C. Southern Russians migrate in small units
Those who travel West populated Europe
Those who went East settled in Iran, known as Aryans
1500 B.C. some crossed the Khyber Pass into India and
created Hinduism, the first caste system, the origins of racism
A white dot on the forehead meant elite
The black dot - defeat; untrustable, untouchables
They wrote the holy Vedas in Sanskrit
That's the language that created Greek, German, Latin and English
Now the Minoans around 2000 B.C.
Starts on the island of Crete, in the Agean Sea
The Greek culture begins Western Civilization
But "Western Civilization" means "White Domination"
Myceneans learned from Kemet, called Egypt in Greek
It existed since at least 3000 B.C.
Creatin geometry and astronomy
This knowledge influenced Plato, Socrates and Hippocrates
Cause Imhotep, the real real father of medicine
Was worshiped in Greece and Rome in the form of a Black African
The word Africa comes from the Greek "Aphrike"
meaning "without cold"; the word philosophy means "love of knowledge"
Stole from first man, Greek power expands
The first Greek fraternities band
The word gymnasium is Greek for "naked"
This was the place where adolescent boys were educated, and molested
This was accepted because Greek culture was homosexual
For example, Sappho trained girls on the island of Lesbos
Hence, the word lesbian (Ay let these dumb motherfuckers know)
December 25th, the birth of Saturn
A homosexual god, now check the historical pattern
December 25, now thought the birth of Christ
Was Saturnalia, when men got drunk,
fucked each other then beat their wife
Fact is, it was still practiced, til they called it Christmas
So put a gerbil on your Christmas list
The Hellenistic Era, Alexander the Great
Conquers all the way to India leavin four successor states
By the Fifth century B.C., R.O.M.E.
succeeds to be the conqueror of Egypt and Greece
But had the threat of the Black Phoenicians in Sicily
The Punic Wars began 264 B.C.
The Black general Hannibal and Carthaginian Peace
In 146 B.C. Carthage fell after a six-month siege
Rome sold every citizen to slavery
The first genocide of history
And more bisexuality in sight; Julius Caesar was known as
"every woman's husband and every man's wife" (BEOTCH!)
Spartacus Revolt, a slave rebellion that lost
Where 6,000 slaves was nailed on a cross
Cross? Aw, shit! Jesus Christ! Time for some-act-right
Christians get your facts right
Cause Christ was not his name
That's Greek for "One who is anointed"
Yoshua Ben Yosef was his name, do Christians know this?
So who do you praise, do you know his name?
Or do you do this in vain?
Accepting the religion they gave slaves to behave
Peep the description of historian Josephus
"Short, dark, with an underdeveloped beard was Jesus"
He had the Romans fearing revolution
The solution was to take him to court and falsely accuse him
After being murdered by Pilate how can it be
these same white Romans established Christianity
Constantine would later see the cross in a dream
In his vision, it read "En Hawk Signo Wonka":
"In this sign we conquer" - Manifest Destiny
In 325 he convened the Nicean Creed
And separated god into three
Decided Jesus was born on December 25th
and raised then on the third day is a myth
Plus to deceive us
Commissioned Michelangelo to paint white pictures of Jesus
He used his aunt, uncle, and nephew
Subconsciously that affects you
It makes you put white people closer to God
(Yo, 'The Man' got game like a motherfucker!)
True indeed, fuck it, Jihad
In the eight century Muslims conquered
Spain, Portugal and France and controlled it for 700 years
They never mention this in history class
cause o'fays are threatened when you get the real lesson
Moors from Baghdad, Turkey threatened European Christians
Meaning, the white way of life; hence the Crusades for Christ
On November 25th, 1491
Santiago defeats the last Muslim stronghold, Grenada
King Ferdinand gave thanks to God for victory
And the Pope of Rome and declared this date to forever be
A day of "Thanksgiving" for all European Christians

.. Now listen, when you celebrate "Thanksgiving"
What you are actually celebratin
is the proclamation of the Pope of Rome
Who later, in league with Queen Isabella
sent Cardinal Ximenos to Spain
to murder any blacks that resisted Christianity
These Moors, these black men and women
were from Baghdad, Turkey
And today, you eat the turkey, for your "Thanksgiving" day
as the European Powers destroyed the Turkeys
Who were the forefathers of your mothers and fathers
Now fight the power, you *****-ass niggaz!

Now around this time, Whites started callings us Negroes
That's Spanish for black object meaning we're not really people
but profit, and the triangle trade begins - they seize us
Queen Elizabeth sends the first slaves on a ship named Jesus
Stealin land from the indigenous natives
Gave them alcohol to keep the Red Man intoxicated
Whites claim they had to civilize these pagan animals
But up until 1848 there's documented cases
of whites bein the savage cannibals, eatin Indians
In 1992, it's Jeffery Dahmer
They slaughtered a whole race with guns
Drugs, priests and nuns
1763, the first demonic tactic of biological warfare
As tokens of peace, Sir Jeffery Amherst
passed out clothin and blankets to the Indian community
Infested with small pox, knowin they had no immunity
Today it's AIDS, you best believe it's man made
Cause ain't a damn thing changed.. let me explain
Now since people of color are genetically dominant
and Caucasoids are genetically recessive
and Whites expect to be predominant, meaning survive as a race then
they simply must, take precautions
That's why they're worried about their future now
Cuz by 2050, almost all the Earth's population
will be brown, then black, so understandin that, whites counterreact
(I'm sayin.. man.. them fools
ain't nothin but a teaspoon of milk in the world color majority)
So they created a system
to force blacks into an unnatural position
That re-enforces the position of natural inferiority
In addition, created guns and developed the ethnocentric view
that God justifies every fuckin thing they do
Condition people to perceive whites' culture as civilized
and every other culture considered primitive - not true!
Racism is the system of racial subjugation against nonwhites
in every areas of human relation
Entertainment, education, labor, politics
Law, religion, sex, war and economics
See blacks were 3/5ths of a man with tax purposes intended
You think you're Afro-American?
You're a 14th amendment and a good nigga
Jews don't salute the fuckin swastika
but niggaz pledge allegiance to the flag that accosted ya
They never teach about the break of islands like Jamaica
But before slaves came here whites would take a
pregnant women, hang her from a tree by her toes
Slice her stomach with a knife
and let the unborn baby fall to the flo'
And stop an unborn child in front of all the slaves
to inbreed fear, so they'd be scared and behave
and not rebel more
Understand all whites must be perceived as potential predators
I paraphrase historian Ishakamusa Barashango
"Understand that regardless of the lofty ideas ingraved on paper
in such documents as the Constitution or Declaration
the basic nature.. of the European American white man
remains virtually unchanged".. so check
This is the nature of the threat

-Ras Kass "The Nature of Threat.

The truth can only set our minds free. If we are only open minded.




hell yeah brotha'. See people this man right here is correct. Take a lesson from him.

White people have done nothing but rape and corrupt every culture on earth. Especially That of African's.

Now they are pretending to make up for. Fuck them and this country.


Good point, I hope you can stick around to educate these people.

Xvall
12th July 2002, 22:02
This BETTER not be turning into an Anti-White statement Lard..

Lardlad95
12th July 2002, 22:10
what I don't have a right to angry?

Man I'm tired of this shit. Every fucking where I go people be saying shit about black people.

What they don't have tact? I mean I be standing right fucking there and they start saying shit about black people.

But do i ever say a racist joke about white people? hell no.

I can't be myself around white people because if I do something they think is weird they take it as the entire black race does the same thing.

They never think oh thats just how aaron acts. They are like no thats how the fucking black race acts.

I'm tired of the fucking assimilation in this country it needs to end.

I'm not anti-white I am however anti-racism

and I'm tired of black people having the kind of lives we do.

its time for all those fucking wasps at the top to stop controling the country and let the rest of us in.

I don't hate white people, I do however hate how blacks are treated.


I apologize for being so angry but everything in that post was true.

I'm sorry if I sound anti white thats not what I mean to sound like

Xvall
12th July 2002, 22:21
Just calm down.. I'm not trying to accuse you of anything. It would just be better if you said the 'europeans' opressed Africa, instead of just saying the 'whites' did. Cool it, I'm not even white... I just don't want board members to be offended. I'm aware that there are a lot of ignorant people who insult blacks, asiasns, and mexicans.

Lardlad95
12th July 2002, 22:33
ok i'm cool. however if you think about I am kinda right I mean racism runs this country.

Sorry i was just a little pissed. It just really gets to me when I think about all the shit that has happened.

but I have my chinese health balls helping me relax now so I'm cool

(youknow, those things that you rotate in your hand to calm you...they wprl pretty good)

Reuben
12th July 2002, 22:59
sounds like the knid of stuff I here at speakers corner from the farrakhanites.

Fact is Lard lad that, racism is a principal, it is not an ethic group, and it is not embodiesd in its entirety by a single ethnic group. You have done very little to attack racism as a principal, a principal which has manifested itself among the actions traditionally oconsidered oppressors, WHite christian europeans in colonialism and slavery, russians in the progroms, but also amongst those ttraditionally considered victims, whether we are talking about zionism, anti-jewish pogroms in lybia, mugabe in zimbabwe, Farrakhanism which attaks both WASPs and other ethnic minorities, such as certain asian communities and jews.

THe point is that we must attack the principal. By simply attacking an thnic group we see as responsible WE ARE TAKING ON THE RACIST MINDSET.

Lardlad95
12th July 2002, 23:05
but what i want is for black people to have a fair chance which we don't get. And why is that? Because the ones rule the country are rich white men.

Facts are facts. It wasn't the chinese that enslaved us It was Europeans (and some middle easterns)

They are the ones controlling the country.

I'm putting this on them once they stop opressing us as well as other minorities then we can begin to destroy racism.

But your right we need to attack the principle of racism.

I don't hate white people I hate what those specific white people ahve done and are doing as we speak.

Lardlad95
12th July 2002, 23:18
ok it isn't right of me to put this on the entire white race.

But it is still wrong how minorities are treated. And the fact that rich white men control our country and they run it so that they always will

Xvall
12th July 2002, 23:42
Yes. I agree with you on that. I live in america, and I'm not being racist when I say this. Rich White men own the country. Rich White men own the businesses.

Lardlad95
12th July 2002, 23:53
your right i need to stop being so general

white people as a hole dont control the country the rich white men do

Valkyrie
13th July 2002, 00:12
Don't ever apologize for being angry about that Lardlad. And always be proud that your history and heritage is one of struggle. It's always profoundly noble to be the oppressed than the oppressor.

Lardlad95
13th July 2002, 00:34
not apologizing for that apologizing for judging people the same as those bastards in my anger i started to talk like the enemy, genralizing an entire race.

thats what they did to us i dont want to do it to someone else

Beyond Good and Evil
13th July 2002, 00:45
It's the rich white men who rule this country, just like it was the rich white men who kept slaves. Theyre the enemy of all people, regardless of color cuz money doesnt descriminate along those lines. The poor white man wont be seeing any of the rich man's gain.

So easy to generalize an entire people, you can see how right-wing groups play off fears to drive the working class against themselves and tear humanity apart. It takes control and thought to realize it's a bullshit answer tho, and kudos to you Lardlad95, you proved you're a greater man than they are.

pastradamus
13th July 2002, 01:21
I agree,like martin luther said.Its not the whites fault.just a few people in the oval office & in the justice departments.

i understand lard lad,i freak out sumtimes about the english.Its natural.

Reuben
13th July 2002, 01:26
you cannot seriously compare the suffering of the white working class to that of black slaves.

That is a ridiculouss level of economic reductionism. Just because we (assumming your a marxist) see the econmic base as a fundamental, does not men we take out of the equation the effects of ideological and social factors which effect particular groups in specific ways. Maybe you should read what Frederick douglass wrote about how he rfelt when he recieved his first wage.

Lardlad95
13th July 2002, 01:29
i guess money knows no race. absolute power corrupts absoluteky nothing is proven that more than this country.

thats exactley why capitalism is evil

Divine Intellect
13th July 2002, 07:13
I believe that if you're teaching history
Filled with straight up facts no mystery
Teach the student what needs to be taught
'Cause Black and White kids both take shorts
When one doesn't know about the other ones' culture
Ignorance swoops down like a vulture

-Krs One

We all need re-education on all levels to eliminate racism. Black People in Amerikkka need to pull up there boot straps and get knowledge of self. So don't get mad at lardlad95 for having rage and angry towards white people. For he wasn't the one who enslave millions of Afrikans and rape them of there culture.

Black Racism is a force reaction to white domination, and cultural enslavement.....

-George Jackson

PEACE
(Proper Education Always Corrects Error)

Brian
13th July 2002, 10:33
My friend told me this racist joke one time.

"how does the little old white lady stop black men from rapping her?"
"She thows a basketball!"
Joke is corny anyway.

I live in Canada and racism isn't as bad her then in American.

I remeber a few years ago a Black murder killed a 5 year old kid.

(Edited by Brian at 4:36 am on July 13, 2002)

Xvall
13th July 2002, 11:13
I don't really get the point of this, and I have no idea what Brian is trying ti imply. By the way, that joke was from Full metal Jacket.

Brian
13th July 2002, 13:48
Of couse its from "Full Metal Jacket",Its just that my firend brought up the joke.

Xvall
13th July 2002, 14:02
I still don't understand what you were trying to say Brian? Were you implying anything? What does a racist joke have any rellivance to?

Reuben
13th July 2002, 14:20
YOu said that black racism is areaction to white enslavement. I agree that it is forged in raction to persectuion, but this should not be the extent of our analysis of it. As well as recognizzing what it is a reaction to, it is also important to criticize and examine it as an ideology rather than simply legitimizing it as a 'reaction'.

It is also important to recognize that that is not the sole reaction to oppression. Simply, the blak reaction to oppression couldb be categorized (imo) by three strands: Assimilation, Seperatism/racism, the movement categorized by people such as Garvey and Farrakhan who attaks not only white but othere ethnic minorities. Finally there is the assertion of black rights , attempts at intergration and equal rights but not assimillation or seperatism. Fighting most purely the principals of racism, making their attacks politically specific.

Thus to simply say racism is just a reaction, as a bad alternative to analysing this ideology criticallly

Lardlad95
13th July 2002, 15:03
Quote: from Brian on 10:33 am on July 13, 2002
My friend told me this racist joke one time.

"how does the little old white lady stop black men from rapping her?"
"She thows a basketball!"
Joke is corny anyway.

I live in Canada and racism isn't as bad her then in American.

I remeber a few years ago a Black murder killed a 5 year old kid.

(Edited by Brian at 4:36 am on July 13, 2002)


dont you mean a MURDERER? why does the fact that he was black matter?

back in like the 1920's in the south no one said it was a white murderer that lynched that 15 year old black boy, it was just anither nigga that died to the courts.

Lardlad95
13th July 2002, 15:08
Quote: from Reuben on 2:20 pm on July 13, 2002
YOu said that black racism is areaction to white enslavement. I agree that it is forged in raction to persectuion, but this should not be the extent of our analysis of it. As well as recognizzing what it is a reaction to, it is also important to criticize and examine it as an ideology rather than simply legitimizing it as a 'reaction'.

It is also important to recognize that that is not the sole reaction to oppression. Simply, the blak reaction to oppression couldb be categorized (imo) by three strands: Assimilation, Seperatism/racism, the movement categorized by people such as Garvey and Farrakhan who attaks not only white but othere ethnic minorities. Finally there is the assertion of black rights , attempts at intergration and equal rights but not assimillation or seperatism. Fighting most purely the principals of racism, making their attacks politically specific.

Thus to simply say racism is just a reaction, as a bad alternative to analysing this ideology criticallly


but assimilation is what is starting to take over. Instead of people knowing about their own culture they don't even seem to care anymore.

What needs to happen is that we keep our history but learn to respect other peoples culture and history and they in return respect ours.

Because when it comes down to it I'm not the same as a white person, we don't share a history or a culture.

But that doesn't make me better than him or him be but we have mutual respect for each other.

instead of people just forgetting their heritage and assimilating to mainstream white american culture

Lardlad95
13th July 2002, 15:10
Quote: from Brian on 10:33 am on July 13, 2002
My friend told me this racist joke one time.

"how does the little old white lady stop black men from rapping her?"
"She thows a basketball!"
Joke is corny anyway.

I live in Canada and racism isn't as bad her then in American.

I remeber a few years ago a Black murder killed a 5 year old kid.

(Edited by Brian at 4:36 am on July 13, 2002)


I still don't understand this why the fuck do you people think we want white women so goddamn bad?

I don't want a white woman. I'm not gonna just break into some suburban house and rape a white guy's daughter.

Thats why those jokes piss me off cuz they make no sense. Like all black men just stand there waiting for white women to come along.

complete bullshit

Xvall
13th July 2002, 15:17
Yeah, I know lard. WTF is up with that? It's also implying that the only thing blacks are good for is basketball.

Lardlad95
13th July 2002, 15:20
besides that I don't even play basketball....but I suppose that doesn't make me black.

MJM
14th July 2002, 03:25
Because when it comes down to it I'm not the same as a white person, we don't share a history or a culture.


Here's a poem I like on this issue.

Human Family
Poem by Dr. Maya Angelou
Read at the dedication of the Disney Millennium Village

I note the obvious differences
in the human family.
Some of us are serious,
some thrive on comedy.

Some declare their lives are lived
as true profundity,
and others claim they really live
the real reality.

The variety of our skin tones
can confuse, bemuse, delight,
brown and pink and beige and purple,
tan and blue and white.

I've sailed upon the seven seas
and stopped in every land.
I've seen the wonders of the world,
not yet one common man.

I know ten thousand women
called Jane and Mary Jane,
but I've not seen any two
who really were the same.

Mirror twins are different
although their features jibe,
and lovers think quite different thoughts
while lying side by side.

We love and lose in China,
we weep on England's moors,
and laugh and moan in Guinea,
and thrive on Spanish shores.

We seek success in Finland,
are born and die in Maine.
In minor ways we differ,
in major we're the same.

I note the obvious differences
between each sort and type,
but we are more alike, my friends
than we are unalike.

We are more alike, my friends,
than we are unalike.

We are more alike, my friends,
than we are unalike.

Beyond Good and Evil
14th July 2002, 17:00
A black man called Benjamin Banneker who had taught himself astronomy and accuratly predicted a solar eclipse was appointed to plan the city of Washington. He wrote to Tomas Jefferson this:

I suppose it is a truth too well attested to you, to need proof here, that we are a race of beings, who have long labored under the abuse and censure of the world; that we have long been looked upon with an eye of contempt; and we have long been concidered rather as brutish than human, and scarcely capable of mental endowments....I apprehend you will embrace every opportunity to eradicate that train of absurd and false ideas and opinions, which so generally prevails with respect to us; and that your sentiments are concurrent with mine, which are, that one universal Father hath given being to us all; and that he has not only made us all of one flesh, but he hath also, without partiality, afforded us all the same sensations and endowed us all with the same facilities.....


Jefferson remained a slave owner his whole life.