Anti Che Propoganda

[SpeCtrE]

WTF,

Now I know they tied everything to defame Che, But not this

Have you seen this before , accusing Che of Homosexuality?

http://latinoartcommunity.org/community/Ch...Dir/AleDon.html (http://latinoartcommunity.org/community/ChicArt/ArtistDir/AleDon.html)

and who the hell is the other guy, can someone feel me in.

[MeTaLhEaD]

Dont believe it ! it just people that has notting else than start rumers and false things!

Viva el Comandante Che Guevara :angry:

[Rage Against the Right]

Reading the artist comments, it doesn't seem like this painting was truly a shot at Che. What the painter was trying to address is that Latin men and afraid of their emotions. About the paradox of kissing and not kissing, I think it was Chavez you fought for Latin American rights in the United States, so this is simply applying that he may have had some secret support from Cuba. Am I right about Chavez?

[JudgeKure]

People amaze me sometimes...I thought the Jay-Z thing was bad...


But this is the single biggest piece of BULLSHIT I ever seen or read...Amazing

[amusing foibles]

Although the pairing of Che Guevara and César Chávez in a homosexual embrace is fictional, I personally enjoy the thread of reality inherent in the painting. Both of these characters never actually kissed, but in this painting, the paradox is that they have and have not.

I created this work to try and melt down the stoicism in male Latino heroic figures and address the fear in feminizing masculinity.



(from the website linked; emphasis mine)


Besides, even if Che was gay, would that be a problem?

[JudgeKure]

Point is that hes NOT gay...


Let this die

[Rockfan]

Even if he was gay who cares. They should be accepted. Anmd it's not what he was, it's what he done.

[RedAnarchist]

Does it matter? It is art, and art is simply expression. Its not like he is portraying him as a paedophile or fascist.

To show a different picture of this, it may be showing the respect these two men would have had for one another if they had met. This is not anti-Che propoganda, this is art. And what was all that about not idolizing Che and other Communists? He personally may not have liked the picture too much, but dont go all puritanical agaisnt the artist just because he's portraying Che as something he wasnt.

[SpeCtrE]

He wasn't gay, what really matters is that they tried to make him GAY.

I still have no idea who that Chavez is.

[Taiga]

Ha-ha-ha.......The easiest way to attract attention. As far as I understand, the painter isn't Van Gaugh. What else he can do?
Intelligent people pay attention to facts, not pictures. I'm not worrying about Che's reputation at all.

[SpeCtrE]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 02:24 PM
Ha-ha-ha.......The easiest way to attract attention. As far as I understand, the painter isn't Van Gaugh. What else he can do?
Intelligent people pay attention to facts, not pictures. I'm not worrying about Che's reputation at all.
Taiga has a point. This artist is either wanting attention, or he smoked crack and got high before he started painting this shit of a picture.

But I would start worrying about Che's reputation because this might mean that someone might get the wrong idea of who Che was.

[Urban Guerrilla]

Che was married twice and had kids with both women. Mentioned in the Che Handbook, he also attracted a lot of women in his younger days.

[October Revolution]

Yeh it's just narrow minded people who are probaly homophobic themselves trying to kill Che once and for all, not this particualr picture if you are lead to believe what the painter says but many things like this do exist to "rid" us of Che. Even if he were gay i can see the majority of the people seeing it as any kind of problem.

[RagsToRevolution]

Personally, I love the picture because of what it represents. THen again, I am secure in my sexuality and other's sexuality does not concern me or make me uncomfortable as it does for others.

It is made very clear it is a fictional piece, but because of the meaning behind it (not the skill it was made, it isn't the best painting sure, but that does not exclude it from being art) it is much more different than many think.

Even if Che was homosexual, that would not change my opinion. This is far from Anti-Che Propoganda.

[RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT]

its not really anti Che propaganda ... and this really doesn’t matter .. :ph34r:

[SpeCtrE]

Originally posted by RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - [email protected] 3 2005, 06:06 AM
its not really anti Che propaganda ... and this really doesn’t matter .. :ph34r:
Excuse you?, Would you care to tell me what it is then?

[RagsToRevolution]

Originally posted by Eagle+Feb 3 2005, 08:04 AM--> (Eagle @ Feb 3 2005, 08:04 AM)
RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - [email protected] 3 2005, 06:06 AM
its not really anti Che propaganda ... and this really doesn’t matter .. :ph34r:
Excuse you?, Would you care to tell me what it is then? [/b]
A piece of art (the quality is subjective) with a message. It has absolutely nothing anti-Che about it.

[Livetrueordie]

i agree with Rabbit maybe it was meant as propaganda but any decent person would say "oh maybe che was gay, he'll still always be a great man " Who cares if he was gay hes still the same person why should this make me hate him. Discriminatation is the reason for 99% of of murders. anyone whose homophobic should die, away from me.

[Lee Harvey Oswald]

Discriminatation is the reason for 99% of of murders. anyone whose homophobic should die

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm sorry, the fact that you said that in one breath is just too funny.

Don't discriminate! But these people (homophobes) should die!

Isn't that not discrimination in and of itself?

[Livetrueordie]

hmm u have a point. i never thought of it like that. i guess im a hipocrit. Its more anger then hate. Thnx for that
the whole Murders and Discriminators should die was meant as a punn. but i never realised i was disriminating against the discriminators.

[Lee Harvey Oswald]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 08:54 PM
hmm u have a point. i never thought of it like that. i guess im a hipocrit. Its more anger then hate. Thnx for that
Don't hate. It's not worth it to go through life pissed off.

[Alex Jones]

How rude. That artist should have been sent to a gulag.

[eddy_123uk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 08:41 PM
iDiscriminatation is the reason for 99% of of murders. anyone whose homophobic should die, away from me.
Ive read in a Che biography (could have been Jon Lee Andersons) that Che Guevara, like Castro, was homophobic and perhaps even sexist. This takes nothing away from him however. He fought for abolition of slavery and exploitation, not an end to prejudicism. He was no martin luther king jr.

[Wiesty]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2005, 10:38 AM
WTF,

Now I know they tied everything to defame Che, But not this

Have you seen this before , accusing Che of Homosexuality?

http://latinoartcommunity.org/community/Ch...Dir/AleDon.html (http://latinoartcommunity.org/community/ChicArt/ArtistDir/AleDon.html)

and who the hell is the other guy, can someone feel me in.
the guy specifically said, "This picture is FICTIONAL"