REWARDING RACISM

[redstar2000]

Officer who beat boy gets $1.6m

A US policeman who was filmed punching a black youth and slamming him against a car has been awarded $1.6m (£890,000) in a race discrimination case.

Jeremy Morse, who was sacked by the Los Angeles police over the incident, said he had been treated more harshly than a black officer who was also there.

A second white officer was awarded $811,000 (£450,000) damages.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/4190965.stm

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[STI]

This is clearly due to government intervention and quasi-socialist democrats like Kucinich.

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

I don't agree with the whole compensation thing, surely just avoiding prison is enough for them ? Should've locked them away anyway, regardless of what punishment some other officer didnt recieve.

[Taiga]

God, the United States is the great country......LOL
Your courts will buy and sell all of you for a good price.....

[Professor Moneybags]

"Rewarding racism" ? Isn't that what affirmitive action does ?

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 20 2005, 04:17 PM
"Rewarding racism" ? Isn't that what affirmitive action does ?
Since you are going to dodge what the thread is about, I will ask you myself sunshine:

How do you feel about these two individuals being compensated with an obscene amount of money for beating a kid?

Or do you feel that that "uppity nigger" deserved what he got?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 20 2005, 11:17 AM
"Rewarding racism" ? Isn't that what affirmitive action does ?
(1) Oppressed minorities don't receive the benefit of affirmative action for beating up kids.
(2) To be a victim of racial oppression is not the same as to commit racism. In fact, it's the absolute opposite.
(3) I would like to see your ass banned for suggesting advocacy of racism. But I can't do that. But I would like to.

[synthesis]

How shocking that Professor Moneybags ventures to compare the brutal assault of a child (and then the perpetrator getting paid $1,600,000 to do it) to an inept and pretty much irrelevant method of redistribution.

[Professor Moneybags]

(1) Oppressed minorities don't receive the benefit of affirmative action for beating up kids.

No, they get "it" (which consists of legally-upheld unfair advantages) for the sole virtue of belonging to a particular ethnic group. Hence : racism.


(3) I would like to see your ass banned for suggesting advocacy of racism. But I can't do that. But I would like to.

I'm not advocating racism, moron (see above).

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 01:39 AM
How shocking that Professor Moneybags ventures to compare the brutal assault of a child (and then the perpetrator getting paid $1,600,000 to do it) to an inept and pretty much irrelevant method of redistribution.
Spare me the mendacity; I made no such comparison. I commented on the idea that affirmative action was a way of "being rewarded for racism".

[Urban Rubble]

How suprising, the guy STILL dodges the point of the post even after RAF asks him a direct question.

[praxus]

If the guy grabbed the cops testicles, the cop is more then justified at throwing his face on a car. Why do you so easily discount what the cop has said?

You'll accept any excuse to scream "rascism".

Furthermore he got rewarded the money because he realized (correctly) that the black officer who had just as much to do with it as he did had a smaller punishment against him. If he should of sued however is another matter.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 05:13 PM
If the guy grabbed the cops testicles, the cop is more then justified at throwing his face on a car. Why do you so easily discount what the cop has said?

You'll accept any excuse to scream "rascism".

Furthermore he got rewarded the money because he realized (correctly) that the black officer who had just as much to do with it as he did had a smaller punishment against him. If he should of sued however is another matter.
You disgust me.

Have you even seen the tape?

"The tape shows the handcuffed boy being picked up and slammed face-down against the back of a patrol car.

"Mr Donovan was then punched in the jaw by police officer Jeremy Morse, who has since been suspended pending an inquiry into the incident."

This is their excuse:

"Officer Morse and his colleagues say that before the video started rolling the boy had lunged at him, leaving him with cuts on his head, ear and elbow that required hospital treatment."

After the suspect "lunged" at the "officer", he was incapacitated and hand cuffed. According to Police Regulations, no further action against the suspect is necessary unless the sospect "somehow" becomes a physical threat to the "officers", cuffs and all.

The tape clearly shows that this was NOT THE CASE so why exactly was it necessary to slam the boy face first into the hood of the vehicle and then punch him in the jaw?

Protect and serve my arse.

There was a reason the officers were dismissed from the "force"; they BROKE THE RULES.

Knowing this, why would you try to defend them?

Oh right, I forgot; no little nigger should be responsible for "good white folk" losing their jobs, right?

You're not very smart at all.

[praxus]

Since the cop broke the rules he deserves to be punished for that. But I have no sympathy for the kid if in fact the kid started it. I have seen the video and it isn't exactly a "vicous" beating like you make it out to be.


Oh right, I forgot; no little nigger should be responsible for "good white folk" losing their jobs, right?

Is this all you can fucking come up with? Because I don't feel bad (again if in fact he started it) for a black guy who assaulted an officer, I'm automaticly a rascist?

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by praxus
Why do you so easily discount what the cop has said?

Um, gee, that's a tough one.

How about...

because all cops are lying motherfucking fascist pigs!

Clear?

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[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 21 2005, 08:54 AM
No, they get "it" (which consists of legally-upheld unfair advantages) for the sole virtue of belonging to a particular ethnic group. Hence : racism.
Even if racism could be committed by minorities against whites, the minorities benefiting from affirmative action wouldn't be the ones inflicting racism. Like I said, being born a member of a minority isn't racism.
If they are not the ones guilty of racism, they cannot be guilty of being rewarded for racism.

But this off topic. My apologies...

[FatFreeMilk]

Okay seriously I don't understand. So why exactly are they being awarded all that money? I remember when this happend and those cops fucked that kid up.

Imagine if that guy hadn't caught it all on tape (who btw was also arrested).

[Danton]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2005, 01:09 AM


How about...

because all cops are lying motherfucking fascist pigs!

Clear?


I'm shocked! That statement is an outrage, hang him!

[Vinny Rafarino]

Because I don't feel bad (again if in fact he started it) for a black guy who assaulted an officer, I'm automaticly a rascist?

Come on, you really wanted to say "nigger" didn't you.

****.

[Danton]

I feel, despite context.. RAF uses that expression too frequently. Hang him!

[praxus]

Come on, you really wanted to say "nigger" didn't you.

****.

What a complete non-argument. Furthermore communists are the only one's in this thread who are using the word.

I'm sorry but attacking me, isn't going to vindicate you.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2005, 03:03 PM

Come on, you really wanted to say "nigger" didn't you.

****.

What a complete non-argument. Furthermore communists are the only one's in this thread who are using the word.

I'm sorry but attacking me, isn't going to vindicate you.
I take it that is why you failed to respond to the other portions of the post.

Never mind son, I don't blame you one bit! :lol:

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 22 2005, 08:30 AM
Come on, you really wanted to say "nigger" didn't you.

****.
Stop trying to project your own racism/nazism on to other people. It isn't working.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Professor Moneybags+Jan 22 2005, 07:12 PM--> (Professor Moneybags @ Jan 22 2005, 07:12 PM)
Comrade [email protected] 22 2005, 08:30 AM
Come on, you really wanted to say "nigger" didn't you.

****.
Stop trying to project your own racism/nazism on to other people. It isn't working. [/b]
Ahh Proffesor Moneybags, the guy who has still failed to address the questions asked of him.

Get too it proff.

[praxus]

I take it that is why you failed to respond to the other portions of the post.

Never mind son, I don't blame you one bit!

Just because I didn't quote every section of your post doesn't mean I didn't respond. Try again.

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

Noooo you must all remember, RAF is never wrong, never, so all bow and kiss his boots quickly. quick now!

[NoiseUnited]

Much pointless bickering all stemming from semantical interpretation and opinionated stubborness. Though this is unnecessary brutality, it is not clearly racism. Comparing this to affirmative action should have just been dismissed as an irrelevant and ignorant statement, but not jump to point fingers of racism. I also feel like such a thread castigating the generalization of a certain type of person, shouldn't make a statement that all policemen are fascist pigs. To say that your movement excludes people is debtrimental to the cause and leaves you open to criticism. Perhaps if you had said some or just cops instead of all cops, there would not be the question of arbitrary judgement. Please do not take my assessment as an arrogant attack. I only want to help the movement and feel certain statements compromise it's reach.

[Urban Rubble]

Since the cop broke the rules he deserves to be punished for that. But I have no sympathy for the kid if in fact the kid started it. I have seen the video and it isn't exactly a "vicous" beating like you make it out to be.

If you don't think some 6'4 250 pound cop slamming you face into a car and punching you directly in the face is a vicious beating then you're clinically insane.

Do you have any understanding at all of how the police force is supposed to work ? THE KID WAS HANDCUFFED !!! It DOES NOT MATTER what he did before this. He could've tried to murder the cop, it doesn't matter. Once he is restrained, which this kid was, you CANNOT assault them. It doesn't matter who "started it", the fact is, he's a cop and he can't retaliate if someone starts it. Unless of course he's in danger. Was this cop in danger ?

I cannot believe that you people are defending this kind of thing. This isn't a political issue, it's an issue of basic human rights. Cops cannot lose their temper and punch a SUSPECT in the face. That goes against everything civilized society is based on.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by NoiseUnited
I also feel like such a thread castigating the generalization of a certain type of person, shouldn't make a statement that all policemen are fascist pigs. To say that your movement excludes people is debtrimental to the cause and leaves you open to criticism. Perhaps if you had said some or just cops instead of all cops, there would not be the question of arbitrary judgement.

The Social Role of the Police (http://redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1082819752&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)

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[NoiseUnited]

You said yourself that the police are human. Meaning some have ethics, principles, they are not perfect and are probablly ignorant of 'class war' and corruption. They very well could agree with progressive politics if they were exposed to that point of view. You must believe your cause will apeal to others, else you wish to force your will on others. Seemingly through an authoritarian despot if necessary. It's not a very compelling stance.

[praxus]

Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 23 2005, 08:43 PM

Since the cop broke the rules he deserves to be punished for that. But I have no sympathy for the kid if in fact the kid started it. I have seen the video and it isn't exactly a "vicous" beating like you make it out to be.

If you don't think some 6'4 250 pound cop slamming you face into a car and punching you directly in the face is a vicious beating then you're clinically insane.

Do you have any understanding at all of how the police force is supposed to work ? THE KID WAS HANDCUFFED !!! It DOES NOT MATTER what he did before this. He could've tried to murder the cop, it doesn't matter. Once he is restrained, which this kid was, you CANNOT assault them. It doesn't matter who "started it", the fact is, he's a cop and he can't retaliate if someone starts it. Unless of course he's in danger. Was this cop in danger ?

I cannot believe that you people are defending this kind of thing. This isn't a political issue, it's an issue of basic human rights. Cops cannot lose their temper and punch a SUSPECT in the face. That goes against everything civilized society is based on.
Yes I have said the cop should be punished for breaking the rules. Did you choose to ignore that?

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by NoiseUnited
You said yourself that the police are human. Meaning some have ethics, principles...

Of course they are human and have ethics and principles.

Unfortunately, their "ethics" and "principles" are those of fascism.

That's what being a cop means.


They very well could agree with progressive politics if they were exposed to that point of view.

When pigs learn to fly.


You must believe your cause will appeal to others, else you wish to force your will on others. Seemingly through an authoritarian despot[ism] if necessary. It's not a very compelling stance.

Perhaps you've run across the phrase "dictatorship of the proletariat". Here's what it means.

Ultra-democracy or better for the working class and its supporters.

Iron tyranny for the ruling class and its lackeys (including the police).

Think of it as "just the opposite" of what we have now.

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[TheKingOfMercy]

Of course they are human and have ethics and principles.

Unfortunately, their "ethics" and "principles" are those of fascism.

That's what being a cop means.#

So no police force of any form in a marxist state then ? Since they only understand the principles of facism, and that's what being a 'cop' is all about ?

[NoiseUnited]

In the link redstar2000 displayed as The Social Role of the Police (http://redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1082819752&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&) he presents his ideas to how a socialist revolution would employ a police force. I do find it an interesting view point, though to me it doesn't seem very practical and seems a bit authoritarian.

[TheKingOfMercy]

Oh missed that, thanks

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by NoiseUnited
I do find it an interesting view point, though to me it doesn't seem very practical and seems a bit authoritarian.

The "impractical" part comes from thinking within the constraints of class society.

But, having rechecked what I wrote, I don't see the "authoritarian" aspect at all.

In what way do you consider "The Social Role of the Police" to be "a bit authoritarian"?

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[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2005, 06:21 PM
Ahh Proffesor Moneybags, the guy who has still failed to address the questions asked of him.

Get too it proff.
No questions were asked.

(The "did the uppity nigger get what he deserved" nonsense was a troll. No answer was required.)

[Professor Moneybags]

Unfortunately, their "ethics" and "principles" are those of fascism.

So are yours, as you have repeatedly demonstrated, Mr. Censorship.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by Professor Moneybags
So are yours, as you have repeatedly demonstrated, Mr. Censorship.

Memo from redstar2000 to secret police: liquidate that bastard Moneybags!

:lol:

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[NoiseUnited]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 12:34 PM
But, having rechecked what I wrote, I don't see the "authoritarian" aspect at all.

In what way do you consider "The Social Role of the Police" to be "a bit authoritarian"?

There's a couple things I find to be a bit rule heavy, especially from something that seems to be against laws, and for justice. First you say you are not allowed to make a career out of being a police officer. That seems to be an unnecessary confinement, possiblly harmful in losing people good at that type of work. Another is the rule that an ex-cop can not become a cop in the new society. Tell me why you think that is a good idea, because to me it sounds very biased. I think you got it wrong to say that all cops are generally prejudiced, they are just human. So some are, just like some are not. It is basically my problem from the begining, that you are prejudice against all police. I'm sure alot of them abuse their power or demonstrate inadequate performance, the problem is those individual police officers. Those who demonstrate offensive behaviour even under orders deserves a share of punishment, but let that action happen before you damn him. The current problem is accountability, so the problem I see is with the courts.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

There is no prejudice in the notion that all cops are reactionary mercenaries of the ruling class. All cops are guilty, because they all made a conscious decision to be cops. That is what a cop is: a paid thug of the bourgeoisie. Why is it so hard for you to understand this?

As far as ex-cops are concerned, I reckon that anyone who sides with the socialists in the revolution will be treated like a normal citizen afterwards.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Professor Moneybags+Jan 24 2005, 03:03 PM--> (Professor Moneybags @ Jan 24 2005, 03:03 PM)
[email protected] 22 2005, 06:21 PM
Ahh Proffesor Moneybags, the guy who has still failed to address the questions asked of him.

Get too it proff.
No questions were asked.

(The "did the uppity nigger get what he deserved" nonsense was a troll. No answer was required.) [/b]
No proff, wrong: -

How do you feel about these two individuals being compensated with an obscene amount of money for beating a kid?

Or do you feel that that "uppity nigger" deserved what he got?

[NoiseUnited]

Joining the Police is not reason enough for me to punish anyone. If there is an occurance in which they have refrained from ethical behaviour for whatever reason, bring it before an unbiased court. The problem here is a biased court. I feel if that were fixed, alot of the problems of the police would be confronted. Simply being a police officer is not reason enough for me to judge someone

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by NoiseUnited
First you say you are not allowed to make a career out of being a police officer. That seems to be an unnecessary confinement, possibly harmful in losing people good at that type of work.

What exactly do you mean by "good at that type of work"?

Arrogant bastards who think a badge is a license to brutalize civilians is one of the things I don't want in any future society.

Since I notice that police become more and more arrogant as they age, my remedy is not to let them do that kind of work very long.

I'm trying to permanently disrupt the "blue culture".

That seems to me to be very much worth doing...in fact, it's vital to making sure our revolution doesn't degenerate into another shitty despotism.


Another is the rule that an ex-cop can not become a cop in the new society. Tell me why you think that is a good idea, because to me it sounds very biased.

It is "biased". My assumption is that all those who've been part of the "blue culture" have absorbed its fascist ideology.

Giving them any further opportunities to act violently towards the citizenry is just wacko!


I think you got it wrong to say that all cops are generally prejudiced, they are just human. So some are, just like some are not. It is basically my problem from the beginning, that you are prejudiced against all police. I'm sure a lot of them abuse their power or demonstrate inadequate performance, the problem is those individual police officers.

That's like saying that the problem with Nazism is the individual bad behavior of a few really nasty Nazis; that most of them are "human"; etc.

The whole Nazi outlook is one that elevates bad behavior...and the same is true of the police "blue culture". Sure, you can find individual cops who haven't beaten or murdered the defenseless...YET!


The current problem is accountability, so the problem I see is with the courts.

What good would a favorable court ruling do you if you had already been beaten or killed by the police?

The police probably lose hundreds of civil suits every year in the U.S. for excess force (whether the victims ever see the money is another question) -- cities now routinely put an allowance for this in their municipal budgets!

It doesn't make any difference. If you are a cop, then you religiously believe in your absolute right to use violence against the defenseless!


Simply being a police officer is not reason enough for me to judge someone.

For some folks, it's only first-hand experience that gets through to them.

I hope you don't get hurt too badly.

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[Invader Zim]

Arrogant bastards who think a badge is a license to brutalize civilians is one of the things I don't want in any future society.

Last time I heard that kind of talk someone had a parking ticket.

Don't you think your being rather harsh?

Your average village bobby probably hasn't ever even seen riot gear.

Though I imagine its different in big cities.

[NoiseUnited]

I've had first hand experience of the unjust rulings of police force trying to make their quota. Lying in court, the unquestioned testimony of the officer. As a matter of fact, my opinion of the police has been through first hand experience. I'm growing tired of this debate, through seemingly no progress is being made. You still judge these people based on their job, and justify this by comparing them to nazis. I do think the mention of lost civil suits is the strength of the last rebuttle, though I'm not convinced the penalties were as stern as it should be. In persuading me in the future, there is nothing more effective than facts.

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 05:55 PM
How do you feel about these two individuals being compensated with an obscene amount of money for beating a kid?

Depends how badly the kid injured them police. If it wasn't serious, then no, they don't deserve anything; scrapes like that come with the job.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I think it's really important to point out in this discussion the racist nature of the police in US history. Police brutality against black Americans is well-documented and very, very common.
police brutality archives (http://brownwatch.squarespace.com/police-brutality-archives/)
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL PRESS RELEASE (http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR511132002?open&of=ENG-USA)

I think it can hardly be contested that the US police is frighteningly notorious for racism.

To not only fail to police racism, but to award him money because he was accused of racism is to absolutely ignore the racist nature of the American police, and by doing so, yielding to racism.

[Discarded Wobbly Pop]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 02:28 AM
Arrogant bastards who think a badge is a license to brutalize civilians is one of the things I don't want in any future society.

Last time I heard that kind of talk someone had a parking ticket.

Don't you think your being rather harsh?

Your average village bobby probably hasn't ever even seen riot gear.

Though I imagine its different in big cities.
Luckily I haven't yet been beaten at a political demonstration. I have however been roughed up for being at the wrong place, at the wrong time, several times.

Yes, disscouraging the righteous atitude among those who "serve and protect" will make sure these things happen much less frequently.

Yes, I have run into a couple police officers who had previously served in small towns, and were not that bad of characters. Guess what? They were outcasted, and didn't stay long.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by NoiseUnited
I'm growing tired of this debate, through seemingly no progress is being made. You still judge these people based on their job, and justify this by comparing them to nazis...In persuading me in the future, there is nothing more effective than facts.

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[Xvall]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 24 2005, 02:09 PM

Unfortunately, their "ethics" and "principles" are those of fascism.

So are yours, as you have repeatedly demonstrated, Mr. Censorship.
The way you act on a message board isn't indicative of the way you would act if you were in a position of political authority.

I can argue that those people who kicked me out of their Starcraft games because I started swearing at them were facists, but it doesn't mean that anyone will take me seriously.

[Independants]

Well..

My dad is a police man. He's the kindest and most genrious man you could know. I'm not just saying this because he's my father. But the truth is, these police from LA - they get spit on, shot at, killed. You gotta be rough. It's easy to say this stuff when you are sitting in your air conditioned rooms.

[October Revolution]

They may get shot and spit on but they are meant to be officers of the law and so should act responsibly. Acting rough is all well and good if your under attack or something but what i can gather from this the poor guy was just beaten up becasue he was black and in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The fact the officers got money for damages and what not just shows how corrupt the US legal system really is.

[Discarded Wobbly Pop]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 05:25 PM
But the truth is, these police from LA - they get spit on, shot at, killed.
Good :D

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 05:25 PM
Well..

My dad is a police man. He's the kindest and most genrious man you could know. I'm not just saying this because he's my father. But the truth is, these police from LA - they get spit on, shot at, killed. You gotta be rough. It's easy to say this stuff when you are sitting in your air conditioned rooms.
My father is also a police officer - but no matter how kind he is, in his role as police officer, h'es still the violent arm of the state. I wish there were another proffession that would allow him to do the parts of the job he loves, without all the bullshit, BUT - when he willing acts as enforcer for the state, it only makes sense that he's going to get what's comming to him. It is the disturbing truth, and part of why I hate the institution so much. Nobody should be put in that position.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 06:25 PM
Well..

My dad is a police man. He's the kindest and most genrious man you could know. I'm not just saying this because he's my father. But the truth is, these police from LA - they get spit on, shot at, killed. You gotta be rough. It's easy to say this stuff when you are sitting in your air conditioned rooms.

Oh boo fuckin hoo! They made that choice. They'll just have to deal with it.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 29 2005, 07:56 AM
Oh boo fuckin hoo! They made that choice. They'll just have to deal with it.
Though I definitely agree with the notion that all cops are literally 'paid thugs'. I do admit that they are not evil, death seeking, monsters. Many of them don't even understand the class struggle, and joined the police force thinking it was the best way to do good.

Its hideously close minded and bias to dismiss 'cops' as evil. Though I have no sympathy for them, in joining the police force, I respect individuals incentives to join up, despite it begin a terrible choice; that can be put down to a lack of understanding. The police force is nothing more than an oppressive band that do the states dirty work. I can't help but smile when I watch some fucking thug get taken down by them...that's probably just my sadistic side talking.

[Forward Union]

So are yours, as you have repeatedly demonstrated, Mr. Censorship.

Unfortunately this board does a better job of shutting up people that disagree with its aims than the police does of the state.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by Anarcho Rebel
Unfortunately this board does a better job of shutting up people that disagree with its aims than the police does of the state.

To quote The Anarchist Tension: Oh boo fuckin hoo!

I'm beginning to lose patience with this kind of generalized whine.

Who has been "shut up" without justification?

There are plenty of message boards on the internet where bozos can "write" any incoherent crapola they please...and everyone accepts that because they have their own incoherent crapola to post.

It's a bozo festival.

This is a different kind of board -- one that takes seriously the possibility of transforming the world.

If all you want to do is piss and moan, take it someplace else.

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[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2005, 02:06 PM
To quote The Anarchist Tension: Oh boo fuckin hoo!


How would you react if our political opponents, the bourgeoisie, returned our argument with such a comment?

[STI]

How would you react if our political opponents, the bourgeoisie, returned our argument with such a comment?

They do... every day!

We fight them regardless.

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2005, 02:06 PM
There are plenty of message boards on the internet where bozos can "write" any incoherent crapola they please...and everyone accepts that because they have their own incoherent crapola to post.

It's a bozo festival.

This is a different kind of board
That's your opinion. :lol:

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by Professor Moneybags
That's your opinion.

Which, as it happens, is considerably better informed than your own...bozo.

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[Discarded Wobbly Pop]

How would you react if our political opponents, the bourgeoisie, returned our argument with such a comment?


They have and do!