Prince Harry

[Hate Is Art]

Prince Harry is being urged to apologise in person for wearing a Nazi costume to a fancy dress party.

Full Story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4170623.stm)

What a cock, I dunno what he was trying to achieve with this? It isn't funny, it isn't ironic, it isn't in the least bit tasteful.

[The Feral Underclass]

How on earth could he have honestly thought that was acceptable. Either he is incredibly incredibly extremly fucking stupid or he doesn't think there is anything wrong in it, which would lead you to believe he harboured some very disgusting ideas.

What an idiot!

[Elmo]

The dude just wore a Nazi uniform he didnt bomb kuwait, is this really at the top of your agenders?

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2005, 08:10 PM
The dude just wore a Nazi uniform he didnt bomb kuwait, is this really at the top of your agenders?
You dont think there is anything wrong with wearing a swastika arm band?

And please remember, this is a message board. Its where we talk about things.

[Ele'ill]

Yeah it was wrong that he did it and this is where this should end. There are more terrible things to be worrying about.

[monkeydust]

To be fair, it was a fancy dress party. It's not as if he was saying "I'm a Nazi", he was more likely actually making fun of the National Socialist movement in a light-hearted way. It wasn't exactly a serious clothing statement. And he's never gonna be King.

Buy, yeah, I can see why so many people get offended by it.

[Funky Monk]

A fancy dress party where the theme was "colonials and natives". Thank god the upper classes aren't as mindless as popular culture suggests......


Well, it seems like foot in mouth disease only skipped one generation. To be honest, this is a big issue. The monarchy is meant to be the figurehead of the country, it doesnt look good to see him dressed as a Nazi, i'm not suprised that so many British Jews are upset.

[Rage Against the Right]

I didn't realize the prince smoked crack.

[PRC-UTE]

taken from an English Republican site:


Harry in Military Uniform Shocker (http://www.throneout.com,/)

Prince Harry has caused outrage after pictures of him dressed as a British soldier emerged last night. In the photos, he is seen wearing a British Army uniform and even giving a British Army salute while smiling and appearing to be enjoying himself.

His actions were instantly condemned by angry representatives of communities around the world that have suffered at the hands of the British Army in Ireland, India, Africa, China, the Middle-East and throughout the Americas.

For hundreds of years until the latter half of the 20th century, Britain fought and occupied numerous countries around the world in brutal fashion. During this time, the British Army was the tool of British aggression and dictatorial control over the locals. Atrocities such as the 'Black Hole of Calcutta' symbolized to many the uncompromizing tactics of British imperial occupation.

Attacks were invariably launched on bogus grounds, a tactic still used by the British Government to this day when seeking to launch wars in pursuit of valuable resources that the target country possesses.

Many hundreds of thousands of people died under British occupation, overseen by the notorious British Army.

Buckingham Palace has apologized for the photographs and made clear that the Prince very much regretted his actions and would visit many of the countries previously violated by the British Army while taking luxury holidays at the tax payers' expense over the rest of his lifetime.

They also stressed that dressing up as a pretend member of the British military was nothing more than harmless fancy dress, just as it was for previous royals including Prince Phillip, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward, Prince Charles, as well as Harry's own father.

If there was any justice they'd just shoot the inbred scum.

[Elmo]

I belive the situation is being blown completely out of porportion.

1) "inbred scum" - look up inbred, prince harry isnt it
2) The colonials were oppressers, you do not know this wasnt a statement that all imperealism such as the british empire is just as bad as the national sociolsts of germany act (nazism).
3) ITS FANCY DRESS!


Im not condoling the actions of Prince Harry but for god sake its hardly this important.

[PRC-UTE]

I belive the situation is being blown completely out of porportion.


Shut up, monarchist-nazi apologist.


inbred scum" - look up inbred, prince harry isnt it

The Monarchy are inbred you ridiculous tosser.


The colonials were oppressers, you do not know this wasnt a statement that all imperealism such as the british empire is just as bad as the national sociolsts of germany act (nazism).


Ffs what is your point here?


ITS FANCY DRESS!

What? He was wearing a swastika armband, not a dress.


Im not condoling the actions of Prince Harry but for god sake its hardly this important.

You're right. Turning the worst regime in history into a socialite joke is Ok. The fact that the Monarchy is ethnically German makes a sick punchline.

[Elmo]

Well to start what colourful language. It makes you oh so hard to provoke a reaction in a internet forum, where you cant be found.

I think its very easy for the interlectual inferior to pick the nazis out as the "worst regime" but have you never considerd Vlad Dracules reign over Romania in the 15th centuary. Surely hundreds of thousands of peasents being squered on wooden spikes slowly and painfully to quench a dictators first for pain of others, matches up slightly. Or the campaign on Ghenkis khan wich killed a quarter of the earths population at the time.

When people say "fancy dress" it dosent mean there wearing a dress....you prick. It means there dressed in unusual and rare clothing.

I would love to hear this inbred royal theory of yours and the facts youve based it on because the british monarchy system in place can be traced back to the 19th centuary with a miraculous 0 amount of inner relation births.

My point if you could read at a year 5 level is that hes intenstions for wearing the uniform have not been made clear by himself or any of hes representative. This could be a statement that all imperialsm is wrong wether its the colonials tradionaly thought of as british heros, or nazis.

And condole means to let pass, and condem means disagree publicly with. And i said i was NOT condoling hes actions, so your sarcasm makes me wonder wether im talking to a child below the age of 3.

So in conclusion, "you ridiculas tosser". I am happy to say that the slander against me being nazi apologist makes me laugh more then offends me.....TWAT!

[synthesis]

You're right. Turning the worst regime in history into a socialite joke is Ok. The fact that the Monarchy is ethnically German makes a sick punchline.

I thought they were ethnically French.

[PRC-UTE]

It makes you oh so hard to provoke a reaction in a internet forum, where you cant be found.


What's that to mean? Sorry but I have difficulty understanding your pidgin English. Are you suggesting I'm afraid of some teeny bopper? :lol:


Well to start what colourful language.

Sorry if I offend your gentile sensibilities. Funny that it would bother you when Nazi garbed monarchs don't.


I think its very easy for the interlectual inferior to pick the nazis out as the "worst regime" but have you never considerd Vlad Dracules reign over Romania in the 15th centuary. Surely hundreds of thousands of peasents being squered on wooden spikes slowly and painfully to quench a dictators first for pain of others, matches up slightly. Or the campaign on Ghenkis khan wich killed a quarter of the earths population at the time.


Right. . . and Ghengis Khan gassed nine million folks, and launched an invasion that killed tens of millions of Russians? No, not even close.

I have no tolerence for the Brit imperialists.


I am happy to say that the slander against me being nazi apologist makes me laugh more then offends me.....TWAT!

You defended him. I said 'monarchist-nazi apologist' and that's what you did!


I thought they were ethnically French.

No, there name was changed to the House of Windsor during WWI because of anti-German sentiment at the time.

[Elmo]

I see you decided not to argue with the arguements i raised in prefernce to how i raise them.

And ghenkis Khan killed every one who raised an eyebrow at him between mongolia to hungary, witch is quiet a lot of people.

And realising your enthusiasm to the republic of ireland independence. If prince harry farted im sure youd want him shot.

And as for your signature US UK - OUT OF IRAQ AND IRELAND. I struggle to remember the us platoon in ireland....because there not there.

Harrys not a nazi, hes some idiot who wore a nazi uniform as a joke.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Wearing a nazi uniform is ok, because Genghis Khan was (probaly) a worse dictator?

[pedro san pedro]

for the love of god guys, get a grip. sure, its in bad taste, but it was a fancy dress costume. he hardly came out and said that hey thought hitler was the man. turn off the computer, go outside and play some hacky sack. it'll help put things in perspective.

[POFO_Communist]

This issue does not warrant precious forum bandwidth. People can wear whatever the hell they want at a fancy dress party, the fancier the better.

It's really sad that some people are so offended.

[Big_Don]

Originally posted by Digital [email protected] 13 2005, 06:59 PM
Prince Harry is being urged to apologise in person for wearing a Nazi costume to a fancy dress party.

Full Story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4170623.stm)

What a cock, I dunno what he was trying to achieve with this? It isn't funny, it isn't ironic, it isn't in the least bit tasteful.
Who cares? There must be more pressing stories to write about rather than a about a prince who wore the wrong kind of costume at 'normal' a fancy dress party! He's twenty for crying out loud! Give the boy a chance!

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

No!

I will not give him a rest. He is a member of the royal family, each blunder that they make has to be used to the maximum, in order to weaken the position of the royal family. Spread salt in the wounds comrade!

[RedAnarchist]

apparently, it was a "natives and colonials" party. :blink:

Just shows that the British "Royal" Family are for the most still stuck in the 19th Century.

The Monarchy are out of date anyway - the more damage done, the better!

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 08:30 AM
Harrys not a nazi, hes some idiot who wore a nazi uniform as a joke.
What's funny about wearing a Nazi uniform?

Prince Harry has, unfortunately for him, a responsibility that means he cannot make stupid "jokes" like that. Nazism and fascism in general is an extremely serious risk in society, so I beg to differ on the seriousness of what he is did. It was very serious.


And ghenkis Khan killed every one who raised an eyebrow at him between mongolia to hungary, witch is quiet a lot of people

You cannot make a comparison like that. Genghis Khan lived 800 years ago when entirely different to how it is now. Yes he may have murdered tens of thousands of people but they were, quite frankly, barbarians.

The Nazi regime [attempted to] systematically exterminate an entire race of people, and that was only 50 years ago. The "final solution" was not the act of mindless barbarianism it was methodically and systematically planned and organised right down to the train times. They had time tables for when thousands of people would be transported to their death.

They had gas chambers designed to maximise the amount of people killed in one day. They had targets, and they did all this based on genetics. They murdered ten million peoeple in 12 years because of the belief that the Aryan race was genetically superior to the Jewish race.

Prince Harry wore on his sleeve a symbol that says that this was right.

[RedAnarchist]

Its such a shame for Hitler that the Aryans are an Iranian people, not his ideal of lanky, blondy blue eyes - and how many Germans are like that anyway? Most i've seen are mainly average height with brown eyes and brown hair.

[trex]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 10:10 AM
Its such a shame for Hitler that the Aryans are an Iranian people, not his ideal of lanky, blondy blue eyes - and how many Germans are like that anyway? Most i've seen are mainly average height with brown eyes and brown hair.
Mostly because that's native German for you. Blond hair and blue eyes is an import from the chilly Northern Europe.

Harry should not be excused for his ignorance and stupidity, and possibly a sense of wanting attention. hell, if George Bush, Tony Blair, or Nelson Mandela went to a party dressed as a Nazi, I'm sure he would get all the attention he'd ever need.

Someone's going to burn at the stake for this wardrobe malfunction, and it's not going to be royalty.

[RedAnarchist]

I live in Northern Europe myself - the United Kingdom - and most people arent blonde haired in this country - in fact, you are more likely to find people with red or black hair and blue eyes. Thats probably native British though.

Anyway, didnt anyone tell Hitler blonde people are stupid? :lol:

[bolshevik butcher]

Genghis Kahn didn't try to wipe out entire races and as has been mentioned earlier was a barbarian.

The queen mother was a nazi, it wouldn't surpriseme if Harry wasn't either. The royal family are a waist of time and money.

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN IT'S A FACIST REIGEME

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

it's:

God save the Queen! The fascist regime!

Lyric:

God save the Queen
the fascist regime,
they made you a moron
a potential H-bomb.

God save the Queen
she ain't no human being.
There is no future
in England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need.
There's no future
there's no future
there's no future for you

God save the Queen
we mean it man
we love our queen
God saves

God save the Queen
'cos tourists are money
and our figurehead
is not what she seems

Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
all crimes are paid.

When there's no future
how can there be sin
we're the flowers
in the dustbin
we're the poison
in your human machine
we're the future
you're future

God save the Queen
we mean it man
we love our queen
God saves


God save the Queen
we mean it man
there is no future
in England's dreaming

No future
no future for you
no fufure for me

[Hate Is Art]

The queen mother was a nazi

Really? I find that hard to believe, but if you can find some proof then I'll keep an open mind.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Does anyone alse apart from me so not give a shit?

So someone wore a nazi uniform to a fancy dress party. Ho-hum, pass the salt.

Is he somehow special because he's royalty? had he been a normal person he might have got the attention of the local rag, but nothing more.

The next party I'm going to I will wear a Hazmat suit, no don't worry there aren't really dangerous chemicals around... (Passerby runs screaming) never mind.

[guerillablack]

It's like him wearing a KKK uniform. He knows paparizzi is going to take pictures. Kid wants attention bad.

[Elmo]

DOES THIS MATTER?!?! WHY DO YOU ALL CARE SO DAMN MUCH!

[T_SP]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 05:54 PM
DOES THIS MATTER?!?! WHY DO YOU ALL CARE SO DAMN MUCH!
Because these royal assholes are representatives of our country! They have brought shame and disrepute time and time again and yet our taxes finance these asses!!
Harry shoulda fucking know better, his royal aides shoulda know better!
This story hit the news in many other countries and Christ knows what other countries are thinking of us now! How are we supposed to bring about a global Socialist revolution if they think we're nothing more than Nazi sympathysers? To be honest if you aren't outraged by this then you are just that!

[FriedFrog]

DOES THIS MATTER?!?! WHY DO YOU ALL CARE SO DAMN MUCH!

Because I can vouch that 99.9% of us on this board are entirely Anit-Fascist and believe that any 'joke' to do with the worst and most tyranical regime ever know to man, which turned out some of the most horrific crimes the world will ever know, should NOT be taken lightly.

Nazism is NOT big, NOT clever and it is most certainly NOT funny.

This man could potentially be the 'ruler' of Britain one day. I think he should represnt us with a little more respect.

[Elmo]

So you two accept that the monarchy represents you as a individual?

I personally belive the monarchy is a sodding waste of time, and i take no notice of what they do as it dosent affect anything important apart from perception.

I live in England yet im independent enough to not worry about how people think of me just because of the "representatives" of this country. When i bend over for the capatilist scum at the top of this country and can be classed a capatalist Brit, ill worry about what they do to represent me. But until then find something more important to get all huffy about.

[Elmo]

"How are we supposed to bring about a global Socialist revolution if they think we're nothing more than Nazi sympathysers?"

Last time i heard, prince harry isnt heading the sodding revolution HELL he has buggar all to do with it. Stop me if im wrong but hes a fuckin capatalist!

[Invader Zim]

I am I the only one who finds it hugley ironic that you guys are quoting from the sex pistols as an attack on the monarchy. In this specific instance its even more potant because the critisism is specifically that a royal wore a Nazi costume. The great irony comes into play when you consider that Johhny Rotton and Sid Vicious both at one stage wore Nazi symbols on their cloaths.

So your using people who wore Nazi cloathing to attack someone who wore nazi cloathing. God I love you guys.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 04:54 PM
DOES THIS MATTER?!?! WHY DO YOU ALL CARE SO DAMN MUCH!
I think the question is: Why dont you?

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 06:33 PM
Stop me if im wrong but hes a fuckin capatalist!
I think naivity is playing a very large role in your bizarre opinion. Was it acceptable for him to ware that armband or not?

[Elmo]

So if i were to dress as kipling to a fancy dress party, youd make me publicly apologise? I dont care because its not changing anything whatever he dress's as in some shit party wiv hes mates. If anything you should have a go because of the qulity of hes uniform, it was just a ordinary shirt with bits stuck on and "next" cargo pants and a armband, by wearin that armband is he actually killing anyone? is anyone suffering because of it? is this seriousley the best thing you have to discuss?

And my bizzare opinion is that he does buggar all and gets shit loads of the green. That isnt leading any socialist revolution.

[FriedFrog]

I live in England yet im independent enough to not worry about how people think of me just because of the "representatives" of this country. When i bend over for the capatilist scum at the top of this country and can be classed a capatalist Brit, ill worry about what they do to represent me. But until then find something more important to get all huffy about.

All right then.

First, I dont think the opposers to what he has done are getting all "huffy" about it. We just disagree with what he did.

Second, like I said, I think he should show more respect. Wether you like it or not, the monarchy, unfortunately, does represent Britain AND it's people. That's one of those idiotic arguaments people use for keeping them around, and it is true, to an extent.

They may not represent individuals like you and me, but as long as they are here and representing everyone else, I think they should show more respect AT LEAST to people in the ethnic and Jewish communities, who know first hand the terror that is associated with the swastika.


I personally belive the monarchy is a sodding waste of time, and i take no notice of what they do as it dosent affect anything important apart from perception.

If you believe they're a waste of time, surely you should be seizing opportunities, no matter how small they are, to bring them into disrepute?

I quote Non-Sectarian Bastard!:


I will not give him a rest. He is a member of the royal family, each blunder that they make has to be used to the maximum, in order to weaken the position of the royal family. Spread salt in the wounds comrade!

[Elmo]

Yes how correct that is, the best way to bring the fall of the royal family is for a bunch of left wing guys that already hate the monarchy to sit in a forum and ***** about him. FOR THE REVOLUTION!

How do you manage to lead a normal life with all this rebeling i mean crikey, im waisting time.....prince harry is a prat.....NOW IM A PROODUCTIVE MEMBER OF THE REVOLUTION!

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 07:02 PM
So if i were to dress as kipling to a fancy dress party, youd make me publicly apologise?
No. The entire country doesn't care what you do.


I dont care because its not changing anything whatever he dress's as in some shit party wiv hes mates.

The swastika symbolises the systematic extermination of ten million people.


If anything you should have a go because of the qulity of hes uniform, it was just a ordinary shirt with bits stuck on and "next" cargo pants and a armband, by wearin that armband is he actually killing anyone?

No. But he is promoting Nazism.



is this seriousley the best thing you have to discuss?

I don't see what relevance that has. This is a message board where we debate all kinds of things. That's the purpose.


That isnt leading any socialist revolution.

No one is claiming that it is.

[FriedFrog]

Yes how correct that is, the best way to bring the fall of the royal family is for a bunch of left wing guys that already hate the monarchy to sit in a forum and ***** about him. FOR THE REVOLUTION!

How do you manage to lead a normal life with all this rebeling i mean crikey, im waisting time.....prince harry is a prat.....NOW IM A PROODUCTIVE MEMBER OF THE REVOLUTION!

What do you expect me to do? I can't start a 'revolution'. It would be a pathetic, non popular, waste of lives against a vastly superior enemy and would be quashed within no time.

I use this forum to discuss and argue my points in DEBATES, like this one.

And if you have a problem with me arguing my point of view, why did you join a DISCUSSION forum in the first place?

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 07:07 PM
Yes how correct that is, the best way to bring the fall of the royal family is for a bunch of left wing guys that already hate the monarchy to sit in a forum and ***** about him. FOR THE REVOLUTION!

How do you manage to lead a normal life with all this rebeling i mean crikey, im waisting time.....prince harry is a prat.....NOW IM A PROODUCTIVE MEMBER OF THE REVOLUTION!
I'm beginning to lose my patience with you. Accept that this is a forum for senible, calm debate. I have already spoken to you about this.

[Elmo]

NMNP -

"What do you expect me to do? I can't start a 'revolution'"

you did say "If you believe they're a waste of time, surely you should be seizing opportunities, no matter how small they are, to bring them into disrepute?" so how is this helping you achieve this destruction of the royal family.



TAT - "How are we supposed to bring about a global Socialist revolution if they think we're nothing more than Nazi sympathysers?"

I got the indacation from that, that what he did reflected the revolution, wich it obvoisley does not.

If i wear a big suit in the form of a genital warte on stage at a gig, am i promoting herpes? If so QUICK PETER GABRIEL, AHHH THE GHASTLY GHASTLY FIEND!

[T_SP]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 07:33 PM
"How are we supposed to bring about a global Socialist revolution if they think we're nothing more than Nazi sympathysers?"

Last time i heard, prince harry isnt heading the sodding revolution HELL he has buggar all to do with it. Stop me if im wrong but hes a fuckin capatalist!
At what point in your fucked up logical understanding did you come up with the fact that I said Harry was leading any revolution? At least argue about something that makes sense otherwise piss off somewhere else! I recommended stormfront! :lol:

[Elmo]

No but you did say "if they think WERE more" so you implied prince harry was one of us. now in a wierd twist YOU PISS OF YA MORON!

[FriedFrog]

you did say "If you believe they're a waste of time, surely you should be seizing opportunities, no matter how small they are, to bring them into disrepute?" so how is this helping you achieve this destruction of the royal family.

OK. Point taken.

But I said "to bring them into DISREPUTE". And, like I said, I can't start a revolution, for obvious reasons, so I cannot DESTROY the royal family.


If i wear a big suit in the form of a genital warte on stage at a gig, am i promoting herpes? If so QUICK PETER GABRIEL, AHHH THE GHASTLY GHASTLY FIEND!

No, thats just disgusting. As is dressing up like a Nazi...

[Elmo]

I wont gloat to as not re-spark dumb, dumber and just plain moronic again. He fucked up leave it at that.

[T_SP]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 08:42 PM
I wont gloat to as not re-spark dumb, dumber and just plain moronic again. He fucked up leave it at that.
If your use of the english language was any good I and many others maybe offended by your mindless twaddle!!



No but you did say "if they think WERE more" so you implied prince harry was one of us.


Is this even a sentence?


now in a wierd twist YOU PISS OF YA MORON!
Or this?



I wont gloat to as not re-spark dumb, dumber and just plain moronic again. He fucked up leave it at that.

This is just bollox!!

[Elmo]

Stop arguing about how the argument is structured and IF you belive theres any point focus on the actual argument

[T_SP]

T_SP
This story hit the news in many other countries and Christ knows what other countries are thinking of us now! How are we supposed to bring about a global Socialist revolution if they think we're nothing more than Nazi sympathysers? To be honest if you aren't outraged by this then you are just that!

Just for the moron,

The 'we' in this sentence was the collective term for 'us revolutionaires' who are serious about bringing about a Global Revolution. Something everybody else grasped but you Elmo!!

From your understanding I firmly believe you are your namesake! That fluffy red dude from sesame street :lol: :lol:

[Elmo]

And how does the actions of prince harry reflect the collective "we". How does what he does make others think of the revolution as nazi sympathysers?

[Intifada]

The Royal family does have connections with Nazi Germany.

The Duke of Windsor, the abdicated King of England, Edward VIII, met Rudolph Hess in 1937.

He also met Hitler.

At that time, many right-wing fucknuts supported fascism and leaders such as Hitler to act as a barrier to the spread of Communism from the USSR.

Anyway, the fact that it's the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, makes Harry look even more stupid and irresponsible.

[T_SP]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 08:56 PM
And how does the actions of prince harry reflect the collective "we". How does what he does make others think of the revolution as nazi sympathysers?
Oh jezusssssssssssssssssssss!!
The statement I made was thus:

To be honest if you aren't outraged by this then you are just that!

I.e, and this is for the last time!! If we as a country and individuals do not show our outrage at this we are as good as Nazi sympathysers!! Have you got it yet?? Are you intentionally acting stupid to get my back up??
Fuck atleast read and understand a post before replying to it!! :(

[Elmo]

Listen moron im going to make this as easy as possible

YOUR ARGUMENT IS TIT, AND NOW YOUR SQUIRMING AND CHANGING YOUR DAMN STORY!

[T_SP]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 09:07 PM
Listen moron im going to make this as easy as possible

YOUR ARGUMENT IS TIT, AND NOW YOUR SQUIRMING AND CHANGING YOUR DAMN STORY!
Yeah righto! I quoted from my original post! How did I change my story?? Or am I just a FASCIST :lol: :lol: I feel it is you who is squirming and headed for a restriction for flaming everybody you come across because you can't hold up a debate!

[Dysfunctional_Literate]

You cannot make a comparison like that. Genghis Khan lived 800 years ago when entirely different to how it is now. Yes he may have murdered tens of thousands of people but they were, quite frankly, barbarians.
That's the kind of ethnocentric thought that is held by people like Hitler and the KKK.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 08:15 PM

You cannot make a comparison like that. Genghis Khan lived 800 years ago when entirely different to how it is now. Yes he may have murdered tens of thousands of people but they were, quite frankly, barbarians.
That's the kind of ethnocentric thought that is held by people like Hitler and the KKK.
What?

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 08:07 PM
Listen moron im going to make this as easy as possible

YOUR ARGUMENT IS TIT, AND NOW YOUR SQUIRMING AND CHANGING YOUR DAMN STORY!
Debate atleast civlized.

What is your point anyway?

That we should stop debating on "pointless" matters?

If you really believed that, you would stop this debate immediatly and spent your "worthy" time on which are revolutionary enough for you.

Don't make this in a flamethread.

[NovelGentry]

That we should stop debating on "pointless" matters?

I don't see this as his argument at all. Unless he said it somewhere else and I didn't notice. He's very much making an argument. I would say he has made such a strong argument, that his second argument about the flaw of the other guys argument is valid.

Certainly you may disagree.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Im not condoling the actions of Prince Harry but for god sake its hardly this important.


The dude just wore a Nazi uniform he didnt bomb kuwait, is this really at the top of your agenders?


DOES THIS MATTER?!?! WHY DO YOU ALL CARE SO DAMN MUCH!


How do you manage to lead a normal life with all this rebeling i mean crikey, im waisting time.....prince harry is a prat.....NOW IM A PROODUCTIVE MEMBER OF THE REVOLUTION!

sheep!

[NovelGentry]

Hardly. Granted his METHOD of arguing is not the best. It's derived from sarcasm and agression, the argument, however, is valid. This is the type of threads I personally have gotten sick of. Maybe if the thread was "Prince Harry admits to bein a Nazi" it would be a little different. The fact remains WWII is a huge an undeniably influential part of history, regardless of the rights and wrongs, it changed the world.

The importance, however, of whether Prince Harry wears a Nazi uniform to a costume party or whatever the hell it was is minimal. About as minimal as finding out Prince Harry wears women's clothing. I guess the next logical step from caring about his costume is persecuting children who dress a certain way for halloween. "What are you little boy?" "I'm the President" "Oh, you think that's interesting do ya? I think it's about time I kill your counterrevolutionary ass!"

I suppose WWII buffs should not collect anything Nazi related as well. Maybe you should ban me from the board because I bought a replica nazi pocket knife for my friend who is interested in WWII. Better yet, maybe I should make an apology and then be ridiculed by supposed revolutionaries.

Reality tells me very simply that what Prince Harry wore has little to do with our cause, unless of course, once again, in some way it reflected his beliefs. So put down the tabloids and pick up something that could really make a difference for once.

Edit: In case you're going to say "if you're sick of these threads why are you responding." The only reason I came across this thread is because Elmo has been suspended over his posts here and he was looking for an explanation as to why he was suspended.

[PRC-UTE]

I see you decided not to argue with the arguements i raised in prefernce to how i raise them.

What are you talking about? I can only understand about half of what you post mate, the rest is rubbish.


And realising your enthusiasm to the republic of ireland independence. If prince harry farted im sure youd want him shot.QUOTE]

Well I generally don't wish my enemies well; do you? Since Prince Harry's father is head of the Parachute Regiment, the reg that committed Bloody Sunday, I have no love for the little bastard.

We've always referred to the British army, RUC, UDR, etc as the CROWN FORCES. They are the enemy and if you'd been at war ya wee tike you'd know what I mean by that.

If he has a shred of humanity he'd abdicate when he gets older so he isn't one day held responsible for the massacres that have been committed in Ireland in his name, or the oppression of Iraq.

[QUOTE]No!

I will not give him a rest. He is a member of the royal family, each blunder that they make has to be used to the maximum, in order to weaken the position of the royal family. Spread salt in the wounds comrade!


Well said.


The great irony comes into play when you consider that Johhny Rotton and Sid Vicious both at one stage wore Nazi symbols on their cloaths.

So your using people who wore Nazi cloathing to attack someone who wore nazi cloathing. God I love you guys.


Is Johnny Rotten in a position of power, or in line to be on the Throne of England? Comparing the prince to entertainers is ridiculous logic.


And ghenkis Khan killed every one who raised an eyebrow at him between mongolia to hungary, witch is quiet a lot of people

Ghengis Khan was motivated by different things than the Nazis, including revenge against the wealthy people that had murdered his father. He wasn't motivated by race, and as TAT pointed out, he was a barbarian maurader. That was sorta the way the dark ages were. He wasn't violating a previously established protocol like Hitler and it wasn't nearly the same scale or cruelty.

[bolshevik butcher]

Originally posted by Digital [email protected] 14 2005, 03:24 PM

The queen mother was a nazi

Really? I find that hard to believe, but if you can find some proof then I'll keep an open mind.
Sorry that's a bit strong, but it's well known that she sypathised with the nazi cause, as did much of the british aristocracy at the time.

[Stupid Cappie Bears]

Pillock out and out Pillock. He should be sent to the gallows.

[Dark Exodus]

Originally posted by Clenched Fist+Jan 15 2005, 11:07 AM--> (Clenched Fist @ Jan 15 2005, 11:07 AM)
Digital [email protected] 14 2005, 03:24 PM

The queen mother was a nazi

Really? I find that hard to believe, but if you can find some proof then I'll keep an open mind.
Sorry that's a bit strong, but it's well known that she sypathised with the nazi cause, as did much of the british aristocracy at the time. [/b]
Likely becuase the royal family had some distant relatives in upper class germany.

[Invader Zim]

I would love to remove the royal family, but unfortunatly I can't. So while weve got the buggers, milk them for all their worth, then when the time is right, have the queen work as school dinner lady, and send the princes into the mines. Don't treat them unfairly, just treat them like everybody else in society.

[h&s]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 01:56 PM
I would love to remove the royal family, but unfortunatly I can't. So while weve got the buggers, milk them for all their worth, then when the time is right, have the queen work as school dinner lady, and send the princes into the mines. Don't treat them unfairly, just treat them like everybody else in society.
Yes, we must treat them the same as we treat all the other rich scum who we hate.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by h&s+Jan 15 2005, 02:57 PM--> (h&s @ Jan 15 2005, 02:57 PM)
[email protected] 15 2005, 01:56 PM
I would love to remove the royal family, but unfortunatly I can't. So while weve got the buggers, milk them for all their worth, then when the time is right, have the queen work as school dinner lady, and send the princes into the mines. Don't treat them unfairly, just treat them like everybody else in society.
Yes, we must treat them the same as we treat all the other rich scum who we hate. [/b]
You've got it all wrong, I dont hate them, and only an idiot would. I hate the institution not the people. It's not their fault who their parents are, which is why people who suggest we just pack them off to tyburn are idiots.

[T_SP]

I hate them!! Most of em are racist! Princess Micheal of Kent and Prince Phillip to name just 2.

[FriedFrog]

I hate them!! Most of em are racist! Princess Micheal of Kent and Prince Phillip to name just 2

Some of the thing;s ive heard prince Phillip say are awful.
There is one, however, that made me chuckle, just at the pure idiocy of him:

Prince Phillip: "What do you want to be when you're older?"
Little Boy: "An Astronaut!"
Prince Phillip: "HA! You're too FAT to be an astronaut!"

No idea if the kid was obese or overweight or something, but it made me laugh all the same.

[T_SP]

The whole 'slitty eyes' comment was fucking outrageous, what a wanker!! :angry:

[trex]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 02:38 PM
The whole 'slitty eyes' comment was fucking outrageous, what a wanker!! :angry:
Very good reps of their country, huh? Well, as long as you have them, my British firends, you also have Canada. How cool is that!? it's like a psuedo-representative monarchy!

Yes, now's the appropriate time to call the royal family bloody wankers.

[T_SP]

I've said it before but the French got it right when dealing with Royals!!

[Invader Zim]

What replace them with an absolute military dictatorship?

I'd rather have the queen than Napoleon thanks.

[T_SP]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 05:07 PM
What replace them with an absolute military dictatorship?

I'd rather have the queen than Napoleon thanks.
Who said anything about a Military dictatorship??
I just meant cutting there heads off! :D

[Stupid Cappie Bears]

:lol: cutting off their heads now that would be good fun we could parade them up and down the counrty great fun :lol:

But seriously do they especially Phillip realise that what they are saying most of the time. They are meant to represent the nation to the rest of the world but they just end up making us look like a bunch of upper class biggots.

[Karl Marx's Camel]

This story hit the news in many other countries and Christ knows what other countries are thinking of us now! How are we supposed to bring about a global Socialist revolution if they think we're nothing more than Nazi sympathysers? To be honest if you aren't outraged by this then you are just that!


False.

I don't care very much what clothes he is wearing.

I think having a monarchy in a capitalist society is positive. It goes to show how outdated the capitalist ideology is.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by Enigma+Jan 15 2005, 03:09 PM--> (Enigma @ Jan 15 2005, 03:09 PM)
Originally posted by h&[email protected] 15 2005, 02:57 PM

[email protected] 15 2005, 01:56 PM
I would love to remove the royal family, but unfortunatly I can't. So while weve got the buggers, milk them for all their worth, then when the time is right, have the queen work as school dinner lady, and send the princes into the mines. Don't treat them unfairly, just treat them like everybody else in society.
Yes, we must treat them the same as we treat all the other rich scum who we hate.
You've got it all wrong, I dont hate them, and only an idiot would. I hate the institution not the people. It's not their fault who their parents are, which is why people who suggest we just pack them off to tyburn are idiots. [/b]
Yes, but the wonderfull thing is, they can quit being a royal. They can use their fame and money for the socialist cause. But they don't, instead they keep on contributing and strenghtening the monarchy as an institution. Therefor - I hate the royals!

I think that the worst punishment possible for these parasites is putting them in a position as everyone else. Working 8 hours a day, merely being able to survive. Chopping their head off sounds more cruel, but it's an easy way out for them.

[T_SP]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 05:53 PM

This story hit the news in many other countries and Christ knows what other countries are thinking of us now! How are we supposed to bring about a global Socialist revolution if they think we're nothing more than Nazi sympathysers? To be honest if you aren't outraged by this then you are just that!


False.

I don't care very much what clothes he is wearing.

I think having a monarchy in a capitalist society is positive. It goes to show how outdated the capitalist ideology is.
What was False?? It was a statement of fact, not fiction my friend! If you don't oppose this it makes you as bad as him!

[commiecrusader]

I think the reaction is possibly a bit over the top, but at the same time, he was a bellend for doing it in a position of such responsibility (supposedly anyway). Anyone in such a position should think far more carefully about their actions and what they are condoning than he does.

I also think he should apologise publicly. I think this would go a fair way in repairing the damage he has done.

[trex]

'member when the news in AMerica showed Paletenians celebrating in the street after 9/11 attacks? that was an old reel from about 10 years ago. I have a feeling Britan's popularity is going to take a blow now that their Prince and future king is a Nazi , or so they will hear.

:) :) :)
[----[----[
put thier heads on a stake!

[commiecrusader]

They dont need to dress as Nazis to let everyone know theyre dicks. They should of had their heads put on stakes a looooong time ago rather than leaching off taxes. Exactly what the fuck good does it do for England to have a royal family? Fuck all.

[Skeptic]

Didn't Prince Harry's relative work for the Nazis in England or was a Nazi sympathizer before WWII, like they way Joseph Kennedy (JFK's Father) worked for the Nazis as an embassador to Scotland?

Prince Harry Ordered
To Visit Auschwitz
By Peter Griffiths in London
1-15-5

Prince Charles has ordered his son Prince Harry to visit Auschwitz after he caused outrage around the world by wearing a Nazi uniform to a party, the Sun newspaper reported today.

The paper said heir-to-the-throne Charles was "incandescent with rage" with the 20-year-old grandson of Queen Elizabeth and wants him to make a private trip to the concentration camp to learn more about the holocaust.

Jewish groups had demanded Harry go the camp in south-west Poland to make amends for wearing a swastika armband and an army shirt with Nazi regalia at a costume party on Saturday.

The Sun, which broke the Nazi gaffe story yesterday, quoted an unnamed royal source as saying that Charles also told his older son, William, to travel with Harry to Auschwitz.

"There will be no publicity and they will go with a Jewish charity," the source was quoted as saying in the Sun.

"Their father has visited Auschwitz himself and believes Harry and William would both benefit by grasping a greater understanding of the horrors by actually visiting."

The paper said William, 22, accepted part of the blame because he was present when Harry picked the Nazi costume in a hire shop before the private party in south-west England.

A royal spokesman said he would not comment on any private conversations between Charles and his sons.

"We wouldn't rule it out, we wouldn't rule it in," he said.

Prince Harry's behaviour drew a storm of protest from around the world, coming two weeks before the January 27 events to commemorate 60 years since the liberation of Auschwitz.

The Nazis murdered six million Jews and millions of others including Poles, homosexuals, Soviet prisoners and gypsies. Millions more were imprisoned or forced to work as slaves.

Harry, son of the late Princess Diana and third in line to the throne, said he was sorry if he had caused any offence.

"It was a poor choice of costume and I apologise," he said.

His apology failed to take the heat out of the row, which led television news bulletins and dominated front pages of British newspapers today.

The mass-market Daily Mail demanded in a huge page one headline "Come out and say sorry properly!", while the downmarket Daily Star branded Harry "The Fool in the Crown".

The voice of the establishment, The Times, dismissed his apology as "feeble" and said he had fallen in with "a dubious group of self-indulgent young men who are apparently content with a life of pointless privilege".

The Guardian noted: "This young man could one day be our king. That is a sobering thought to many, if not yet to Prince Harry himself."

The Mirror was kinder, reminding readers he was young when his mother Diana died in a Paris car crash in 1997 and "deserves a little understanding".

[apathy maybe]

Without having read all the posts before this one, I will give my opinion.

If he was a private individual I would find nothing wrong with this. But as a Prince, I think he and the rest of his clan should be shot and killed. But only 'cause they are monarchy. (To think that Australia is going to have Charlie as king, help!)

The fact that the British public paid for this is even worse. I hate monarchy.

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by Apathy [email protected] 18 2005, 02:44 AM
But as a Prince, I think he and the rest of his clan should be shot and killed. But only 'cause they are monarchy.
Nice



Anyway, WHO CARES!?!?!?!? We already know that they stand for fascism, but still this is not like he said "Jews should be killed" or something. It's just that he is a royal.

The royals suck anyway. How come you Brits haven't overthrown them and cut their heads off and throw them to the Tamesis yet?
They are unnecessary parasites. Oh, and that Queen jubilee show sucked.

[octovia]

There's only one thing i have to say to all americans that think hes a cock.YOU SUCK DICK!!!!!!! I openly admit i hate the bastard because someday he'll be the ruler of my fucking country,only if his brother and dad die some how quite fast.Anyways i hate it how the americans have to interfere in our fucking business like Diana's private life.God if i was in power i'd have torn that fucking memorial fountain right down and replaced it with a more better memorial such as a statue! Don't get me wrong,i'm not anti-american,there's plenty of that on our streets already preaching hatred .Just please think,Harry lives in a playboy lifestyle,ok he and his brother are no Uday and Qusay but what the hell,they're enjoying life and it has nothing to do with you lot!!!!!!!!!
thank you all
Octovia.

[Reuben]

speaking as a british internationalist i would like to say that the idiot octovia who like to say that the idiot who just posted - octovia - does not represent us. To say that americans do not have the right to take a position or express an opinion on members of our ruling class dressing up in nazi uniforms is ridiculous. I dont have to tell the educated members here that the struggle for social justice is one that crosses borders and that it is absurd to say that people from one country dont have the right to spak or agct against the oppressive ruling class of another . Would you say, octovia, that british people shouldnt have fought in the spanish civil war because it had nothing to do with them or that those brits who dislike the french conservative 'suck cock' (to directly quote a phrase which makes obvious your stupidity. The fact that your national loyalties with harry and william who you appear to be defending overcome your political loyalties to comrades in america who are legitimately attacking the monarchy makes me wonder what the fuck you are doing on the site at all.

[Zingu]

Originally posted by Non-Sectarian Bastard!@Jan 14 2005, 09:24 AM
No!

I will not give him a rest. He is a member of the royal family, each blunder that they make has to be used to the maximum, in order to weaken the position of the royal family. Spread salt in the wounds comrade!
Thats the spirit! :D

Anyways, even though as much as I hate the monarchists, you have to admit, we all make stupid mistakes when we're young, and he happens to be scrutinized every action he makes by the media. I think its an incredibaly petty issue.

[PRC-UTE]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 11:36 PM
speaking as a british internationalist i would like to say that the idiot octovia who like to say that the idiot who just posted - octovia - does not represent us. To say that americans do not have the right to take a position or express an opinion on members of our ruling class dressing up in nazi uniforms is ridiculous. I dont have to tell the educated members here that the struggle for social justice is one that crosses borders and that it is absurd to say that people from one country dont have the right to spak or agct against the oppressive ruling class of another . Would you say, octovia, that british people shouldnt have fought in the spanish civil war because it had nothing to do with them or that those brits who dislike the french conservative 'suck cock' (to directly quote a phrase which makes obvious your stupidity. The fact that your national loyalties with harry and william who you appear to be defending overcome your political loyalties to comrades in america who are legitimately attacking the monarchy makes me wonder what the fuck you are doing on the site at all.
Damn, well said there. I'd add that it's funny for a person in Britain to cop that attitude when your ruling class, (like americans to be fair) have such a tendancy to send your soldiers to other countries.

Workers of the world, unite!

[octovia]

Ok ok,i apologise.I din't say i liked the monarchy,i just hate it how people from different countries get too involved and start telling lies,turning things around.I read afew months back that some american paper was printing that a member of the royal family had lung cancer! just why do they do this? As much as i hate the royal family,theres nothing anyone can do,they're a disease that feeds off our tax!!!

Yes,Harry shouldn't have chose that costume,but there's loads of celebs that have done the same,Freddy Star in one who use to come onto the football pitch dressed as hitler....i hate it why people rub it into him because he's a young prince.i'm only really defending him because i know it'll be unlikely he'll be sitting on the throne.
my deepest apologies for my last post
Octovia. :)

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Non-Sectarian Bastard!+Jan 15 2005, 07:51 PM--> (Non-Sectarian Bastard! @ Jan 15 2005, 07:51 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by h&[email protected] 15 2005, 02:57 PM

[email protected] 15 2005, 01:56 PM
I would love to remove the royal family, but unfortunatly I can't. So while weve got the buggers, milk them for all their worth, then when the time is right, have the queen work as school dinner lady, and send the princes into the mines. Don't treat them unfairly, just treat them like everybody else in society.
Yes, we must treat them the same as we treat all the other rich scum who we hate.
You've got it all wrong, I dont hate them, and only an idiot would. I hate the institution not the people. It's not their fault who their parents are, which is why people who suggest we just pack them off to tyburn are idiots.
Yes, but the wonderfull thing is, they can quit being a royal. They can use their fame and money for the socialist cause. But they don't, instead they keep on contributing and strenghtening the monarchy as an institution. Therefor - I hate the royals!

I think that the worst punishment possible for these parasites is putting them in a position as everyone else. Working 8 hours a day, merely being able to survive. Chopping their head off sounds more cruel, but it's an easy way out for them. [/b]

Well they aren't socialists why would they possibly want to do that?

Jesus you guys are so naive.

The aim of a socialist revolution is not to punish the pervious rulers but to create economic equality, killing a meaningless figure head with no actual part in the running of the institution, is not what socialism is all about.

[RJH-Music]

Everybody does dumb shit once and a while and though this is rrrreally dumb this should be the end of it. He obviously knows that he fucked up but their are people doing much worse things in the world and the media is having a freaking field day with this!!!! Of all things this stupid incident!!! I for one don't care about this anymore if I ever did in the first place.

[octovia]

thank you thank you

[RevolverNo9]

I'd add that it's funny for a person in Britain to cop that attitude when your ruling class, (like americans to be fair) have such a tendancy to send your soldiers to other countries.


Now now, curb the nationalism. One might as well say that it's ironic for an Irishman to feel disgusted at polarised wealth-gaps in capitalist countries or lingering theocracy. As it is however, such statements are absurd.

[PRC-UTE]

That's not nationalism, comrade. I blame their ruling class, not the workers of Britain.


Now now, curb the nationalism. One might as well say that it's ironic for an Irishman to feel disgusted at polarised wealth-gaps in capitalist countries or lingering theocracy. As it is however, such statements are absurd.

You're spot on that the free state was a theocracy, but the nothern british state was even worse and he we fought in arms against both states.