Nazi Occupation Not Brutal?

[fuerzasocialista]

Fascists up to their usual bullshit

take a look (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FRANCE_LE_PEN?SITE=1010WINS&SECTION=INTERNATIONAL&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

[dso79]

People should stop paying attention to guys like Le Pen. Those shocked reactions only give him free publicity, and may actually increase his popularity.

[RedAnarchist]

"People" like Le Pen seem to live in some fantasy world. They do not and cannot see the truth because it is detrimental to their persona. Le Pen is so shallow that he can only be defined by his politics, and his politics are detestable and full of hate.

[Funky Monk]

Nazi occupation wasnt brutal to those who would appease them and who weren't entirely undesirable to their society.


So bottom line, for pricks like La Pen, the Nazis werent bad.

[refuse_resist]

Le Pen, just like every other fascist out there, will eventually get what's coming to them.

[Xvall]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2005, 08:52 PM
Le Pen, just like every other fascist out there, will eventually get what's coming to them.
Bullets to the head, right? I just want to make sure you and me are on the same track here.

[fuerzasocialista]

Bullets to the head, right? I just want to make sure you and me are on the same track here.

Damn Right

[xx_refused_xx]

all of them should play follow the leader:) and shot them self!

[POFO_Communist]

An assasins bullet to the head would solve all our problems in regards to this demented character.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I thinks it's time to inject a little reality here - The only people who really had to worry in occupied France where the Jews and the Resistance. The Nazis had no reason to hurt their 'aryan brothers' In fact, toward the end of the occupation relations between soldiers and civilians had begun to thaw.

[seraphim]

Le Pen is just another missguided fuckwit unfourtunately freedom of speech alows him to spout mindless drivel. Luckily it also allows me to call him a cock sucking, yellow, small minded, facist wanker.

[praxis1966]

It wouldn't surprise me if this guy was some low level Vichy official. Fuckin Nazi collaboraters. He is old enough, after all. What is amusing to me is how some modern fascists like him either deny the Holocaust occured or downplay its extent. Seems to me that if Hitler's regime wasn't extraordinarily brutal, then his rhetoric would have been a load of bullshit. "Alot of hard talk but not a whole lot of follow through" as Edward Norton Jr.'s character in American History X would've put it.

Anyway, I agree with dso. Freaking out about it only gives him the attention he was after in the first place.

[RedAnarchist]

Maybe we need some sort of French "Baader-Meinhof" Nazi-slaying group in that country - just to help clean up the remains of the cancer.

[h&s]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 08:46 AM
I thinks it's time to inject a little reality here - The only people who really had to worry in occupied France where the Jews and the Resistance. The Nazis had no reason to hurt their 'aryan brothers' In fact, toward the end of the occupation relations between soldiers and civilians had begun to thaw.
Yes, but the fact remains that if you expressed an opinion contrary to the Nazi ideology you would be killed. It may not be as bad as the occupation of Poland or Russia, but it still is brutal.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Is the overt oppression of the Nazis somehow worse than the more subtle manipulation of the modern western nations?

[Dysfunctional_Literate]

Nevermind

[h&s]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 03:35 PM
Is the overt oppression of the Nazis somehow worse than the more subtle manipulation of the modern western nations?
Yes.

[bolshevik butcher]

What could possibly be less brutal than rounding up everyone who disagreed with you, or was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and having them all worked to death or experimented on or gassed?

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by h&s+Jan 15 2005, 08:45 AM--> (h&s @ Jan 15 2005, 08:45 AM)
[email protected] 14 2005, 03:35 PM
Is the overt oppression of the Nazis somehow worse than the more subtle manipulation of the modern western nations?
Yes. [/b]
I'm not so sure, maybe in terms of brutality but how many people have been worked to death and brutally killed in "democratic" countries or because of their "peacemaking" actions?

The benefit of a nation being openly fascist is that you can point it out and not be ridiculed (at least for being wrong). I think it might be better to have it known.

[h&s]

I'm not saying that 'democratic' countries are not brutal, far from it. I'm not denying that they are bad, but to say that they are as bad as Nazi occupation is going a little bit too far. At least under capitalism we have some rights. If we want we can protest wherever we want, the protest may be brutally controlled by the police, but at least we have the right to do it. Under the Nazis they'd probably open fire on us.
Imperialist occupation is disgusting, but is it as bad as the Nazi occupation on the Eastern front? In just 3 years the war had killed over 20 million people, and thats not including the death camps.
People should be wary of comparing the current system to fascism, there may be similarities, but they are not the same.

[B_T_N_H]

Le Pen is delusional,

I think even George Lincoln Rockwell said same thing, that the NAZI's werent brutal and they never had any Gaschambers.

Bealfan aka AK-94u

[bolshevik butcher]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 03:35 PM
Is the overt oppression of the Nazis somehow worse than the more subtle manipulation of the modern western nations?
Yes, we do have freedom to protest, even form political parties. It certainly isn't perfect, but it's better than a facist dictatorship.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Mmmm. We have it a good deal better than we would under Nazi occupation - because we've won those rights, and pushed back capital and the ruling class. Fascism represents the extreme situation where the ruling class pushes back . . . hard.

(Keep an eye on that American backlash, eh?)