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USAcommunist
13th January 2005, 00:45
America's globalization of it's industry and technology jobs are being out-sourced to other countries which has left no good jobs for Americans, the federal, state, and local goverment are about the only decent paying jobs left, the medical jobs, school teachers, and lawyers have good jobs but, they are all out of touch with whats been happening to the private sector jobs in america, these jobs are being exploited by capitalist company owners with low pay, no health insurance, and no pension ect.. This has/is creating a underclass in america that is feed up with american capitalisim, the young people today see whats happening and more and more young people are looking to the left for answers. This is a good thing because it will grow the ranks of all leftist organizations in America, the down side is more and more people will go into poverty and the left doesn't have a real political voice in America. The capitalist democrates and republicans are selling out the future generations of Americans because they don't have a clue on how to deal with the globalization of U.S. jobs.American capitalisim has failed in many ways and this is a great example of it, private sector jobs being lost and the ones left can barely support one person much less a family.

fuerzasocialista
13th January 2005, 03:00
Actually, the more people start looking to the Left, the more support it will gain thus strengthening the voice of the American Left. The current trend of outsourcing jobs to Third-World countries for the benefit of the capitalist companies is going to be one of the fuses that will explode and thrust the US into what will hopefully be a revolution in which the Proletariat will regain what it has lost through all the years of capitalistic reign. Its not clear how much time it will take for this to occur but one thing is certain in my point of view, we are beginning to see the crumbling of the US empire.

USAcommunist
13th January 2005, 03:35
Macorix, I agree, I think there is a good possibility that will happen, the problem will be the capitalists in america control all the politics and they will never allow this country to have a socialist constitution which is what the people need to make America a socialist democracy, capitalists have always found ways to defuse any socialist movement in America and I'm sure they will try to do it again. The Smith Act scared most americans away from the left in the 1950's-60's. The Patriot Act that the american congress passed will do the same to some people, maybe that was the real reason for the Patriot Act in the first place.

Kobbot 401
13th January 2005, 15:29
The Patriot Act was emplimented to "protect" America, and in America there has allways been fear of the left, so that is a reasonable assumtion USAcommunist. The Patiot Act is implace because America knows its goverment and all is hated by both the people and other contries, so they are trying to protect their intrests, and not those of the people.

eQuaLiTy
13th January 2005, 16:44
Im just learning so dont call me an idiot, but what was the Patriot Act? Was it that thing that they can arrest terrorists or some shit?

fuerzasocialista
14th January 2005, 04:42
Macorix, I agree, I think there is a good possibility that will happen, the problem will be the capitalists in america control all the politics and they will never allow this country to have a socialist constitution which is what the people need to make America a socialist democracy, capitalists have always found ways to defuse any socialist movement in America and I'm sure they will try to do it again. The Smith Act scared most americans away from the left in the 1950's-60's. The Patriot Act that the american congress passed will do the same to some people, maybe that was the real reason for the Patriot Act in the first place


Correct USAcommunist, however, because the cappies are in control is precisely the reason as to why there can't be a peaceful revolution in the states. No matter how much public support Socialism receives, the crooks in Washington and elsewhere will never let this country adopt Socialism because they would all go bankrupt. There will be a need for armed struggle, there is no doubt in my mind about that.

The "patriot act" is a blatant attack on civil liberties. The government has the right to get any kind of info on anyone from mrdical bills to a list of the books you take out of the library. Again, making it easier for the government to act swiftly by keeping tabs on any group of people advocating social change.

USAcommunist
14th January 2005, 13:52
Macorix, your exactly right about the Patriot Act, and don't fool yourself about the internet, the FBI monitors as much of the world internet as the can, they even set up fake websites which, this could even be one. I don't think this one is but, you never know, yes, under the Patriot Act you don't have any rights, they can arrest you and detain you, imprison you, suspend all your rights under the bill of rights (US constitution), more or less you don't have any rights, they can wiretap you, infiltrate this website and gather information about everyone here, they can go to your internet server and they have to provide all your personnal information if they request it. I really don't care if the FBI is here on this site, they already know me and I know what to say and what not to say on a public forum like this. The point is they can do anything they want to do under the Patriot Act and you don't have any privacy what so ever under this american law. The law was challenged in the U.S. Supreme Court and the court did send down an opposing desision on the due process parts of this law, but, the Bush administration has appealed it and nothing has changed in it yet. I would advise any American on this site to be careful of exactly what you say because they probably are monitoring this site. As far as I'm concerned they know I don't give a fuck and the FBI can kiss this americans ass, I do know what not to say.