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enigma2517
7th January 2005, 01:33
Somebody help me, I'm trying to figure out the best angle on this thing. So I'm starting up a club within my school about radical leftism. I know some bright young people that would be great for it, but unfortunetely they're democrats. Understandable of course, I was too before I discovered this area of revolutionary politics. The thing is, to come to where I am now, it was a slow and deliberate pace of learning and little revelations along the way. After reading numerous articles on reformism, observing historical precendents, and just generally engaging in debate about it, I realized what its flaws are. But how do I explain this to a person in a short amount of time. I can summarize my point that I want an egalitarian society and that revolution is the way to go and reformism is wrong, not because its peaceful but because it won't work!

After this though, I realized that I just really don't have any concise statement about the shape of our current politcal system. My talking points so far are as such.

1.) Demonstrate how class affects people. VERY important, often overlooked. What is Anarcho-Communism answered that one for me. Should go back and look. But basically, when people are divided into classes they similarily experience an inevitable division of interests. When our interests don't match up we have this concept of (unhealthy) "competition" which leads to war and waste. :( But thats a pretty good point to make...answers the whole why I do care so much. Maybe I can appeal to the bleeding heart liberal cognitive line of thought ;)

2.) Brief, easily explainable evidence as to why our current system is a sham. Break this down into two parts. Inability of reform to get rid of social ills, and voting. Reformism can't take care of its own problems or it creates problems of its own.

Voting is another important topic to cover when people say, well I can see where ur coming from but why not just vote it in. This goes back to some earlier points I guess, which is why its important for me to establish why a complete revolution is necessary. But once again, whats a brief statement I can make about why bourgeoise parliment is stupid and voting is "fake"?

Thanks guys.

Edit: Just found this two seconds later to posting

Some commentary from Redstar2000 (http://redstar2000papers.fightcapitalism.net/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1083335872&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)

Saint-Just
7th January 2005, 01:57
I previously though like you, and it was a painful and slow journey to where I am now. Many revelations.

Do take your time to say things to people. They may not agree the first time, but if you teach different points over and over again and are able to present more and more information to them you will eventually find some of them on your side.

If someone is told something time and time again by people they respect and believe in it takes a very long time to have them believe otherwise. It is possible though.

enigma2517
7th January 2005, 20:34
Perhaps you're right...perhaps there is no quick easy way to "convert" them to my side. It would almost be like lying because I couldn't possibly give them the whole story at once. But still....whats a good introduction :)

Rage Against the Right
12th January 2005, 17:24
There was a fellow a few years older than me that used to give talks on socialism. He didn't form a club or anything but every other week he would just talk about socialism or a certain socialist topic and let people ask what ever questions. He got a lot shit for it but he never got flustered and just kept answerin question best he could. Something like that would be a good segway into the formation of a leftist club. Also, find a hot girl to bring in members, I started a faction of the Students for a Free Tibet association and no one joined for almost a year, until a ultra-cute freshman girl joined, then they came in droves.