Bush is illegitimate

[belial]

Imperialism denies the the legitimacy of certain other governments, often based on an alleged lack of democracy, human rights violations, WMDs, etc.

Imperialism called this sort of operation psychological warfare.

Then the imperialism destroys the government whose ligetimacy it denies.

And the world seem to say, more or less " Oh, that destruction is OK, after all, that government really wasn't legit anyway, you know."

Now, the election-stealing regime is Washington has a potential legitimacy problem.

George W. Bush is not its president, but it's dictator because he stole both the 2000 and 2004 presidentail elections.

The debate over fraud in the 2004 election may be left to the experts, if you wish.

I not talking about talking about the 2004 election.

I'm talking about the valid and reasonable presupposition that fraud in the 2004 election invalidates and illegitimizes presidency of Bush without further discussion.

This presupposition and the election fraud are two very different things.

What's needed is an attack, that grows and spreads, on the legitimacy of the presidency of Bush by casually mentioning that Bush is a usurper or election thief or dictator or commander in thief or etc everytime an individual on the Left or in the Center ( there often isn't much difference between these two, except for the rhetoric) has occasion to refer to either the US government or to Bush until Bush leaves office.

So, if any of you ever find yourself involved in a discussion of something other than fraud in the 2004 election, and if for some reason you need to refer to the US government or Bush or someone else in the discussion refer to the US government of Bush, please, as a favor to me, mention casually, in some creative or even uncreative way, that Bush illegally occupies the Oval Office.

See, I just did it. Again. That wasn't so hard. "Bush" (the thief, you know) came up in the previous sentence, and, bingo, I got a lick in. Wow, I feel better.

Yes, it a very small thing, but if it grows and spreads, I believe the Left and the Center will discover that the effects of the campaign to illegitimize George W. Bush, the dictator who stole the 2004 election, are beneficial.

[belial]

This little polite gesture of verbally denying Bush legitimacy due to fraud may prove almost as effective as walking down the street in mass holding a piece of paper or, in other words, an "action."

[belial]

Hey, you all, here's an example of what I'm talking about.

What I'm talking about is a small thing, but nonetheless it's difficult for some people, especially, very young leftists. They will bitterly oppose the policies of Bush, the usurper, but they refuse or can't deny his presidency because, more than anything else, the lying cappie press displays an unanimity in annointing the 2000 and 2004 elections as free and fair.

So, what it amounts to from the infantile left is something like "No, daddy, I'm not gonna do dat," a combination of opposition and deference.

My suggestion calls the dropping of the deference... permanently.

Anyway, here's one example, remember my target or real tropic is not Iraq or Cuba, but the US dictator:

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Although the Miami Mafia along with the other GOPs loudly cheer in support of the oil-stealing aggression by the United States against the heroic people of Iraq, it appears that almost everyone in Iraq, save a few pro-US Iraqi traitors and despicable Iraqi quislings, resists the aggression and the American stealing with arms.

The so-called "Iraqi elections" set up for this month are more fraudulent that the US election of Nov 3 of last year, if such a thing is possible.

In principle, an election decides who will exercise state power for an upcoming term of office.

State power in Iraq now, on the so-called Iraqi "election" day, and after the so-called "election" day will remain in the hands of George W. Bush, the US dictator who also stole the US presidential election on Nov. 3, 2004. Mr. Bush commands 130,000 US troops fighting the Iraq people and controls the fabulous wealth that results from the sell of stolen Iraqi oil.

The proceeds from the sale of this oil are deposited in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Withdrawal from the Federal Reserve account, called the Development Fund of Iraq, require the consent of Mr. Bush.

In addition to the US troops fighting the Iraqi people, Mr. Bush commands 23,900 non-US "coalition" troops (the UK with 8,361 troops with the most and Norway with 10 troops the fewest).

On top of all this, Mr. Bush commands 17,000 mercenaries, (mostly Americans, who slyly called themselves "private security contractors"), now fighting the Iraqi people.

What's more, US commanders and advisors dominate the military and police forces of the puppet Iraq regime which the US installed or imposed after its invasion. Therefore, Mr. Bush commands those turncoat forces too.

This "election" in Iraq is about which puppet or traitor or quisling will front for Mr. Bush.

That's not an election. That's a democratic farce.

The winner of this so-called "election" will not exercise state power after his "victory" for the upcoming term of office, but will expose the impotence of the pro-US quislings under US military occupation, political domination, and economic exploitation.

After this so-called "election" and after the phony democracy is propped up in Iraq, George W. Bush will illegally rule Iraq as he now illegally rules the United States and Iraq.

And this is exactly what the depraved Miami Mafia and the corrupt Venezuelan renegades want for Cuba and Venezuela, jointly and respectively.

[Cal]

Fair enough but a lot of the things you've said aren't true.

[belial]

With the New York Times disclosures of the recollections of the US interrogators and ACLU documents from visiting FBI agents, all giving statements and testimony about inhuman and degrading torture at the US concentration camp at Guantanamo (Cuba), the allegations of torture at the concentration camp are now conclusively proven.

Of course, GOPs ... who are congenital liars ... will continue to insist that they know more about what happens at the US concentration camp in Cuba than the US interrogators who themselves torture POWs and visiting FBI agents who observe the torture.

So, notwithstanding, the overwhelming evidence, these congenitally lying GOPs will continue to deny that torture occurs there.

But GOPs of this sort are so contemptible, neither we nor anyone else (including other GOPs) should take them or their so-called "knowledge" seriously. It's important however to look at the reaction of the "other GOPs" who acknowledge grudgingly that the United States tortures its POWs. The reaction of the "other GOPs" is frankly "I couldn't care less."

One reason that the "better GOPs or the other GOPs" can look upon the plight of the POWs at Guantanamo with indifference is that many of them are Afhgan and Iraqi patriots and Al Qaeda suspects.

Neither the GOPs nor the US public in general, today or yesterday, holds these peoples in esteem.
The same thing can be said about the four peoples US imperialism most wants to add to population of the concentration camp -- Iranians, North Koreans, Venezuelans, and Cubans.

The fact that the United States in April 2002 tried to (or did, for a short time) overthrow Venezuelan democracy shows that Venezuela is now at the top of the list of sources of new torture victims for the US human rights disgrace at Guantanamo.

So that there can be no doubt about Venezuela's prominence as a source for fresh torture victims, US imperialism revives the ferocious and demented running dog, Otto Reich, to head the US State Department section on western hemisphere affairs.

Clearly, the right, left, and center of the political spectrum expect in 2005 stepped up US aggression against the Venezuela, Cuba, and the people of Colombia.

So, even with the better GOPs -- the "other GOPs" -- you'll find a thick and stubborn ethical degeneracy and perversity that contaminates their politics. This explains why GOPs - both the better and the worse -- steal elections, including US presidential elections.

What, in the main, Americans are unable to see at this time is that if the POWs at the US concentration in Cuba or somewhere else were fellow Americans, tortured with same savagery as the foreign POWs today, the reaction of the "other GOPs" -- the better GOPs -- will be the very same "I couldn't care less."

Under the USA Patriot Act (which would be more aptly called the "USA Dictator Act") powers given to the regime of George W. Bush, the election thief and American dictator, it's very easy to strip Americans of their constitutional rights, label them "terrorists or terrorist supporters" and thus turn them into ordinary "detainees" who are to be tortured and degraded like the foreign "POWs" today.

A terrible rot has emerged and now spreads within American democracy.

To a GOP, the supreme good or the only good is GOP power and GOP ideology.
Whether this injustice has actually happened or is happening to Americans is beside the point. The point is the GOP regime of Bush, the commander in thief, has the authority under the USA Patriot Act to make it happen. And neither this usurper of American democracy nor anyone else should have this power.

The key thing at the current stage of the democratic, human rights (anti-torture), and anti-imperialist struggle is to see, the truth, that George W. Bush is not the president of the United States.

Bush is a dictator who has stolen the office.

The year 2005 will see the publication of a number of erudite studies that will demonstrate statistically, legally, and empirically that the 2004 US presidential election (like the one in 2000) was stolen.

The bias that George W. Bush is the president of the United States arises, more than anything else, from the unanimity of the lying capitalist press in anointing the November 3 presidential election as free and fair.

A large sector of the American people already doesn't see it that way.

This sector ... thankfully ... is neither startled nor swayed by the unanimity of the capitalist press.

[belial]

"Fair enough but a lot of the things you've said aren't true."
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In the opening post of the thread I wrote "I believe the Left and the Center will discover that the effects of the campaign to illegitimize George W. Bush, the dictator who stole the 2004 election, are beneficial."

The implication of this belief is that the Right will not discover that the effects of the campaign are beneficial.

Belial

[belial]

PHILISTINE: I hate Bush, but he's still president. What can I say?

WORKER: You are groveling before Bush, deny that he's president, then it doesn't matter whether you hate him or whether you're in love with him.