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king Royale
2nd January 2005, 22:09
Peru Gunmen Seize Police Station
January 02, 2005 12:56 PM EST
LIMA, Peru - Gunmen belonging to a nationalist group that seized a police station in remote southern Peru ambushed a police vehicle on Sunday, killing four officers and wounding several more, hospital officials said. One gunman was gravely wounded.

The shooting started before dawn on a bridge on the other side of town from the captured police station in Andahuaylas, 275 miles southeast of Lima, Radioprogramas radio reported. The station was seized Saturday by followers of Antauro Humala, a retired army major who, along with his brother, seeks to establish a nationalist indigenous movement modeled on the ancient Incan Empire. :)

The attackers demanded the resignation of President Alejandro Toledo. At least seven people were wounded in a shootout during the station takeover early Saturday and brought to Lima. Authorities said Humala was holding at least 10 police officers hostage.

"This is a military protest and we are willing to lay down our arms and surrender when Toledo resigns from office," Antauro Humala told Radioprogramas Radio from the captured police station in Andahuaylas on Saturday.

Toledo, who refused that demand, declared a 30-day state of emergency in the remote Andean province. He cut short a holiday trip to convene a Cabinet meeting on the crisis.

A state of emergency suspends basic constitutional rights such as freedom of assembly, permits authorities to enter homes without search warrants and authorizes the president to charge the armed forces with maintaining order.

Officials at two hospitals told Peruvian media the death toll from Sunday's ambush included a police captain, lieutenant and two officers.

"This was the result of an ambush of a vehicle that was on the colonial bridge of Andahuaylas heading to the airport, where three police died, a captain and two officers, all hit by bullets," Dr. Luis Altamirano, director of the state-run Hospital of Essalud in Andahuaylas, told Canal N television.

Altamirano also said the hospital received three wounded victims.

Dr. Leonides Mayma of the town's general hospital told Radioprogramas that a police lieutenant brought there was dead on arrival. He said his hospital also was treating a gravely wounded follower of Humala.

Prime Minister Carlos Ferrero said Humala and less than 100 of his followers, most of them army reservists, seized the police station Saturday after the police commander there refused to sell them weapons. He said police and military reinforcements were headed to Andahuaylas to restore order, but he declined to elaborate.

Humala is the brother of Ollanta Humala, an army commander stationed in South Korea whom the government retired last week.

In October 2000, Lt. Col. Ollanta Humala and his brother led 50 followers in a short-lived military uprising, a month before the collapse of former President Alberto Fujimori's corruption-ridden, 10-year regime. Antauro Humala had been forced to retire from the army three years earlier.

The revolt failed to spark the wider rebellion the brothers had hoped for in barracks across the nation to establish their nationalist indigenous movement.

Peru's Congress granted the brothers and their followers amnesty in December 2000.

While Ollanta Humala was transferred for overseas duty, Antauro Humala forged a small, but vocal, political movement in his brother's name that has accused Toledo of selling out Peru to business interests in Chile, a historic rival.

Ollanta Humala said in a telephone interview with Radioprogramas he was still in Seoul and that the military was delaying his departure with administrative matters.

Toledo, who took office in July 2001 with a popularity rating of nearly 60 percent, has tried to disassociate himself from a series of corruption scandals during the past year involving relatives and Cabinet ministers. His approval rating hovers at about 9 percent.

Colombia
3rd January 2005, 15:07
First major attack in a while. I don't think they will really surrender.

bolshevik butcher
3rd January 2005, 16:27
Sorry, I don't know much about the situation in Peru, what are both sides like, neither seems particular left wing from what I've read above.

bolshevik butcher
3rd January 2005, 16:28
sorry, double posted.

king Royale
4th January 2005, 01:59
I don't know much either but I dig anything that goes for indigenous rights and I like the whole idea of indigenous nationalism. Sounds a lot like something Che would say.

fernando
4th January 2005, 10:40
Mwah...this could be one of those military freak out moments, this guy maybe wants the power there himself :rolleyes:

Tupac-Amaru
4th January 2005, 10:58
This guy is totaly mental. He wants to turn Peru back into the Inca empire. He thinks he's the successor of Tupac-Amaru II, an Inca rebel who started a revolt against the Spanish during the 1700's (and yes i did name myslef after him).

"I don't know much either but I dig anything that goes for indigenous rights and I like the whole idea of indigenous nationalism. Sounds a lot like something Che would say. "

I dont even want to know what Peru would be like if his revolt suceeds, but it probably wont be very pretty. This guy is a crazy idealist with no real political views, Che would never have supported him.

I live here in Peru so i think its safe to say that i know the situation better than most of you...this guy is simply crazy...nothing socialist about him...in fact he reminds me a bit of Dr. Evil, but an Inca version.

bolshevik butcher
4th January 2005, 11:21
From what I've heard it sounds like he's just a nut head general. I mean surely it would be in the indigenous people's interest to work with the workers in Peru?

Colombia
4th January 2005, 14:57
Has anyone heard of the recent Peruvian protests? Can anyone provide me with more info about it?

fernando
5th January 2005, 00:11
Originally posted by Tupac-[email protected] 4 2005, 10:58 AM
This guy is totaly mental. He wants to turn Peru back into the Inca empire. He thinks he's the successor of Tupac-Amaru II, an Inca rebel who started a revolt against the Spanish during the 1700's (and yes i did name myslef after him).

"I don't know much either but I dig anything that goes for indigenous rights and I like the whole idea of indigenous nationalism. Sounds a lot like something Che would say. "

I dont even want to know what Peru would be like if his revolt suceeds, but it probably wont be very pretty. This guy is a crazy idealist with no real political views, Che would never have supported him.

I live here in Peru so i think its safe to say that i know the situation better than most of you...this guy is simply crazy...nothing socialist about him...in fact he reminds me a bit of Dr. Evil, but an Inca version.
This might be off topic, but you are from Peru and are not one of my aunts who seem to be a bit too pro Toledo for my taste (being pro Toledo is something which I dont really agree with...but then again what are the options...)

But what I wanted to ask is, how do you see things there? Are there other (as in better) options instead of Toledo or this military mental who thinks he is the next Tupac Amaru?

king Royale
5th January 2005, 02:03
This guy is totaly mental. He wants to turn Peru back into the Inca empire. He thinks he's the successor of Tupac-Amaru II, an Inca rebel who started a revolt against the Spanish during the 1700's (and yes i did name myslef after him).

"I don't know much either but I dig anything that goes for indigenous rights and I like the whole idea of indigenous nationalism. Sounds a lot like something Che would say. "

I dont even want to know what Peru would be like if his revolt suceeds, but it probably wont be very pretty. This guy is a crazy idealist with no real political views, Che would never have supported him.

I live here in Peru so i think its safe to say that i know the situation better than most of you...this guy is simply crazy...nothing socialist about him...in fact he reminds me a bit of Dr. Evil, but an Inca version.


Thanks for the post, again I didn't know much about him. I just support in full the rights of indigenous people and what I meant by what I said about Che is that he had an ideal of an entire South American nation with no artificial boundaries and it reminded me of this which was said on his motorcycle trek after experiencing indigenous culture on his journey.

Tupac-Amaru
5th January 2005, 09:29
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 12:11 AM
But what I wanted to ask is, how do you see things there? Are there other (as in better) options instead of Toledo or this military mental who thinks he is the next Tupac Amaru?
Well i all i can tell you is that Toledo sucks ass! He is the worst prez EVER! i think he is even worse than Fujimori (he ruled us for 20 years, and then it turned out he wasnt even peruvian...he was japanese). Alan Garcia, from APRA, i think, wouldnt be a bad option. But realy, wot we need is a reformed communist party (or the creation to of a new socialist party) to try and fix the problems of corruption and inequality, and most importantly Imerialism; it pisses me off every time i walk around Lima, and see yank companies like AT&T in charge of our electricity or Spanish companies like Telefonica in charge of our phone lines!!! It's like they OWN us!!!! :angry: :angry:

fernando
5th January 2005, 10:57
I know Fujimori was in power for about 10 year...I mean 20 would mean he mean he came into power in the early 80ties...and then we had garcia if I recall correctly who ran away with all the money. But I agree with you that there has to be a new socialist party. Maybe not too "radical" yet so that everything could adjust to the changes and hopefully there wont be a military junta or something.

Tupac-Amaru
5th January 2005, 11:59
Fuji came to power in the mid 80s!
Garcia was before him, and the reason he ran away with all the money is cause he was young, stupid and inexperienced. He would do a better job than Toledo thow!

fernando
5th January 2005, 12:51
But wasnt it illegal for a president to be in power for longer than two terms, and each term being 5 years in Peru...right?

And still...I think there should be a totally new leader, no Toledo, no Garcia, not that military guy who thinks he is Tupac Amaru...

Colombia
5th January 2005, 14:44
All of Latin America except Costa Rica need much better leaders.

Tupac-Amaru
5th January 2005, 15:27
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 12:51 PM
But wasnt it illegal for a president to be in power for longer than two terms, and each term being 5 years in Peru...right?

And still...I think there should be a totally new leader, no Toledo, no Garcia, not that military guy who thinks he is Tupac Amaru...
It was illegal, and that's why some called him a dictator.

And i agree that we need TOTAL change.

fernando
6th January 2005, 00:24
In what way? Like Cuba? Like the USSR?

Tupac-Amaru
7th January 2005, 10:40
Cuba. But that's probably gonna be impossible. :(