Drugs in Sports

[commiecrusader]

I think sports-people should be allowed to use drugs same as anyone else. If they used performance enhancing drugs, it would just mean that they could do more amazing feats, and in my opinion the faster/higher/whatever these people do, the better it is to watch.

[Pawn Power]

If they used performance enhancing drugs, it would just mean that they could do more amazing feats, and in my opinion the faster/higher/whatever these people do, the better it is to watch.

Yea, how about mandatory steroid injections.

[bunk]

I voted any drugs but people should be made aware of the dangers of these drugs as performing enhancing drugs have side effects, although most people would be aware of these and decided young sportsman or children aspiring to play sport could not understand it fully.

[Raisa]

I put recreational drugs.
You want to smoke some weed, okay. But I dont think athletes should use steriods, it totally misses the point.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

The point of watching athletic pursuits for entertainment is to see the amazing capabilites of the human body unaided - it's a real wonder to see people doing things that you yourself would be able to do if you tried hard enough.

However, I do not see the point of denying athletes access to thing like marijuana, as they're sportsmen not ascetics.

[Vallegrande]

I think there is something called the world olympics that already does this. Athletes around the world take drugs from things we wouldnt even know and go out there and pull off some crazy records. Its not in America but there is a world sport where this is true. That means all drugs are legal, both man made and earth made.

[dso79]

Allowing athletes to use performance enhancing drugs would create a situation where you can only be successful in sports if you’re prepared to destroy your body with shit like steroids, so I voted 'recreational only'.

[commiecrusader]

Perhaps if the drugs were legal though, there would be more incentive to create new ones which don't damage athletes bodies?

[dso79]

Steroids are still widely used, so there’s always a lot of demand for less damaging alternatives. Such alternatives are constantly being developed and many have already been brought on the market. A lot of athletes use legal supplements such as Tribulus Terrestris, which is a herb that supposedly raises testosterone levels like steroids do, but without the side effects, and creatine and HMB, which are also said to stimulate muscle growth. The problem is that even if such claims are true the results are far less impressive than the results of steroid use, so steroids remain popular.

[che's long lost daughter]

If you are talking about drugs that enhance athletic performance, then the answer is no. Being a good sportsman or being good at a sport is a gift or a talent and using drugs to have "superhuman" abilities in sports defeats its real meaning. I agree thogh that like any ordinary person, sports people can use recreational drugs like weed because they have the right to do so. But that is not to say that I am for the use of such drugs.

[Hate Is Art]

I voted Recreational only, the use of steroids in sport would defy the object or competition, if someone has access to a better perfomance enhancing drug then it wouldn't be fair. It would become a competition of who can develop the best drugs not who can run the fastest, jump the highest etc

[Xvall]

The problem is that too many people give a fuck about sports.

[apathy maybe]

I don't care what the fuck people put into their bodies. But I do care that sports people are paid so much and the prestige is so great that they feel the need to use performance enhances.

So I voted anything, but it needs a rider that says, but not in the current sporting system.

[Stupid Cappie Bears]

Whats the point of any sporting competition if the athletes are going to use performance inhancing drugs, it destroys the whole comcept of competition.

If they wish to use recreational drug well thats fine by me its not as if smoking dope is going to make you run faster. When it comes into conflict with the act of competition it should be banned. The fact they are payed so much should mean they shouldn't have to use these special drugs to perform to a higher standard.

[Xvall]

Why are we arguing in favor of competition in the first place? Why are athletes paid so much in the first place? What does their ability to run really fast give to society that warrents such exorbitant amounts of money?

[commiecrusader]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 16 2005, 11:22 PM
Why are we arguing in favor of competition in the first place? Why are athletes paid so much in the first place? What does their ability to run really fast give to society that warrents such exorbitant amounts of money?
I dont think anyone is suggesting maintaining how much they get paid. Simply the principle the thread was started about.


Whats the point of any sporting competition if the athletes are going to use performance inhancing drugs, it destroys the whole comcept of competition.
No it doesn't. Everyone is still on a level playing field, there's just more variables about who is willing to use drugs to win etc.

[Stupid Cappie Bears]

Yes and the ones who want to win the most will use the most drugs to do so and yet the naturally gifted athletes may be left behind because they are not willing to abuse their bodies.

Ot all comes down to winning in the end which shouldn't be the main aim of competative sport.

[commiecrusader]

hmmm... I can see where your argument is coming from. However, I do think it would be call to see athletes just doing everything to be as insanely good as possible including using drugs.

[Big Boss]

No to steroids. What is the point on competing if you have the help of a drug that will make facial hair appear on women and grow tits on men and on top of that it will give cancer to those taking it? There isn't. Either you are a good athlete or not.

[apathy maybe]

I think that if we can remove the rewards that makes it so attractive to win, then drugs should be allowed.

Compare training to drugs, should people be forbidden to train at high-altitudes? It trains the body to carry more oxygen in the blood, so when they compete at lower altitudes they have more oxygen then other people. Or the whole training full time. Amateurs just can't compete, so training full time should be abolished yes no?

[Jesus Christ]

i accidentally voted for No drugs at all
change that to recreational only

i dont believe any performance enhancing drugs should be allowed in sports

[ComradeChris]

My opinions have been expressed by the largest percent of the people (voting-wise). And some verbally.

If we allow performance enhancing drugs, sporting events will become less about the training and practice, but about who has the best enhancing drugs. People will try to rely on science to do the performance for them (so to speak).

Someone earlier said that it's about the "human body unaided." I completely agree with that statement.

However, non-performance enhancing drugs shouldn't really matter.

Is cough medicine in anyway a performance enhancer?

[Xvall]

Ok. I'll go with this...

I don't think steroids make a difference, because every drug has the potential to enhance performance to a certain degree. Various occupations (specifically those linked to creativity) have come to progression in their field of experience as the result of compounds such as tetrahydrocannibanol and various psychedellic drugs.

Even drugs that societies have no problem with have a vast potential for enhancing performance. Don't believe me? Take two opposing teams, deprive them both of sleep for a day, and hold a match the next morning. Give one team a large amount of caffinated beverages and the other absolutely nothing; see who wins.

[commiecrusader]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 17 2005, 06:00 AM
Ok. I'll go with this...

I don't think steroids make a difference, because every drug has the potential to enhance performance to a certain degree. Various occupations (specifically those linked to creativity) have come to progression in their field of experience as the result of compounds such as tetrahydrocannibanol and various psychedellic drugs.

Even drugs that societies have no problem with have a vast potential for enhancing performance. Don't believe me? Take two opposing teams, deprive them both of sleep for a day, and hold a match the next morning. Give one team a large amount of caffinated beverages and the other absolutely nothing; see who wins.
So are you in favour of drug use Drake Dracoli? Or against it? I don't really understand the point you are trying to make. Are you saying drugs should be used because they make a difference? Or shouldn't for the same reason? Or something else? Im probably just being stupid lol.

[apathy maybe]

Nobody has replied to my question about high-altitude training and training in general. It has the same effect as drugs, should it too be abolished?

[ComradeChris]

Originally posted by Apathy [email protected] 17 2005, 10:26 PM
Nobody has replied to my question about high-altitude training and training in general. It has the same effect as drugs, should it too be abolished?
See high-altitude training could just be a environmental thing. Wasn't there some controversy back in teh day about a long-distance runner who came from a mountainous region. It was because of that advantage they believe he won. Honestly, blood doping and things like that AREN'T natural, and shouldn't take part in the game. It'd be kind of difficult to determine the altitude case.

[Xvall]

I never actually pointed out what I say saying, so I'll do so now: either bad the use of all drugs, regardless of how miniscule and unimportant they may seem, or allow all drugs. I think the main thing to go for here is consistency.

[ComradeChris]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 18 2005, 02:26 PM
I never actually pointed out what I say saying, so I'll do so now: either bad the use of all drugs, regardless of how miniscule and unimportant they may seem, or allow all drugs. I think the main thing to go for here is consistency.
This is why I asked earlier wether things like cough syrup affected performance. If anything I think it would only have negative affects in sports (ie. drowziness). But if a competitor has a cough, they wouldn't be allowed to take that medicine without others being allowed to pump themselves full of steroids?