Fox News is trash.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

A couple weeks ago they had on that show 'War Stories' with oliver retardouche or something like that and he was talking about Cuba and the Cold War and called the Bay of Pigs invaders 'freedom fighters'! Wow. Not to mention the countless other lies you will hear in listening to their programming for 5 minutes.

God Bless America, my friends!

<_<

[Professor Moneybags]

It&#39;s trash because it doesn&#39;t tell you what you want to hear ?

[RedAnarchist]

No, its trash because it tells you things that arent true. Its just a machine which mass-produces a daily dose of reactionary lies and biased conservative shit.

[Zingu]

http://logo.cafepress.com/1/168472.89951.jpg
:lol:

[commiecrusader]

It&#39;s trash cos Tricky Dicky Cheney has a lot of influence. That&#39;s why it&#39;s trash.

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2004, 01:32 PM
Its just a machine which mass-produces a daily dose of reactionary lies and biased conservative shit.
I was right; you consider it trash because it doesn&#39;t tell you what you want to hear.

[h&s]

No its trash because its blatantly biased yet claims to be a proper news organisation. If a news station were to set itself up as independant but just churned out communist propaganda, that (even though it would be true :P ) would be trash.

[Tupac-Amaru]

You guys ever heard of the FoxNews drinking game?

Start watching Fox, and take a swig of Vodka, Tequila (or any other type of liquor) every time you hear the words: "freedom", "democracy", "america", "liberty".

You are guarenteed to get fucked within an hour&#33; ;) :lol: :lol:

[NovelGentry]

You guys ever heard of the FoxNews drinking game?

Sounds like a much better way to get alcohol poisoning and die rather than just getting "fucked."

[Pawn Power]

I don&#39;t know of any news network on tv that is worth watching, I find the best way to get news is through the internet.

[encephalon]

CSPAN isn&#39;t bad, if you can stay awake. It&#39;s more like seeing the news coming out of the respective asshole&#39;s mouth than hearing someone else tell you how wonderful their bullshit is regardless.

[Latifa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 04:55 PM

You guys ever heard of the FoxNews drinking game?

Sounds like a much better way to get alcohol poisoning and die rather than just getting "fucked."
It&#39;s doubtful you&#39;d last long enough to poison yourself. Being Fox *yaaawwwn* :lol:

[Militant]

Isn&#39;t that show hosted by Ollie North? Iran-Contra scandal anyone?

Would you expect better from a man who&#39;s actions led to the death of hundreds of thousands? I don&#39;t. He should have been shot for treason. Reagen as well. :lol:

[Anarchist Freedom]

You know why fox is trash because of bill o reily "fair and balanced" my ass

[encephalon]

now now, don&#39;t give bill o&#39;reilly all the credit. There are enough fascist bastards touting their corporate-government (meaning FASCIST; didn&#39;t america once fight this?) propaganda with FOX news for them all to share the glory.

Besides, o&#39;reilly is probably just a diversionary tactic to disguise the network as a whole. He can take the slack while the network remains relatively unscathed and can continue the same bullshit operation. Little Bush has big friends--or should I say big cousins--in high places there. I don&#39;t really imagine that&#39;s by accident, either.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

Originally posted by Professor Moneybags+Jan 1 2005, 07:04 AM--> (Professor Moneybags @ Jan 1 2005, 07:04 AM)
[email protected] 31 2004, 01:32 PM
Its just a machine which mass-produces a daily dose of reactionary lies and biased conservative shit.
I was right; you consider it trash because it doesn&#39;t tell you what you want to hear. [/b]
I don&#39;t want to hear lies.

[encephalon]

I don&#39;t want to hear lies.

only biased conservative shit. And it isn&#39;t really actually conservative, but the new hijacked "neoconservative" stance. These "conservatives," strangely, want to change the world as much as communists do.. just in an entirely different way.

If you actually *want* to hear bias, then you want nothing more than something to re-affirm your own position and system of belief, and care little about its truth value. That&#39;s disturbing.

[commiecrusader]

If you actually *want* to hear bias, then you want nothing more than something to re-affirm your own position and system of belief, and care little about its truth value. That&#39;s disturbing.
And demonstrates a lack of faith in your own beliefs. It is quite hard to believe in NeoConservatism though so it is understandable that they need somewhere to go to see other people believe in this strange dellusion.

[Dyst]

All biased news is mind damage. Including leftist biased (although I rarely see any leftist biased news...)

[bur372]

BBC news is very good non-biased. As redstar2000 put it
It&#39;s often frustrating to read their all-too-brief and cryptic accounts of popular uprisings...that go completely unmentioned every place else.

But yes fox news do lie (you can&#39;t deny it professor moneybags) they said that the BBC was going to get sued by the goverment over the Hutton report - which is complete bollocks.

[Pawn Power]

BBC news is very good non-biased.
I would not say BBC news is completely non-biased.

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 04:22 PM
All biased news is mind damage. Including leftist biased (although I rarely see any leftist biased news...)
News from a socialist perspective cannot be biased since socialism is the truth. Our analyses of society are correct.

The BBC is bourgeois rubbish, full of lies and bourgeois ideological taint. It is filth that makes me sick, and sicker than FOX &#39;News&#39; when I hear comrades say they think it is the truth.

My father, a bourgeois cretin, worked for News corp., the entity that owns FOX &#39;News&#39;.

[Latifa]

Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 3 2005, 07:20 PM

The BBC is bourgeois rubbish, full of lies and bourgeois ideological taint. It is filth that makes me sick, and sicker than FOX &#39;News&#39; when I hear comrades say they think it is the truth.

Would you like to back this up? <_<

[commiecrusader]

Easy Chairman. No-one said BBC was free from bias, just that it was the best and most informative news available on TV. Take a chill pill :P

[Saint-Just]

When I spend time on this site I also spending a lot of time backing things up, unlike many people here. Unfortunately I cannot do this all the time - because it is really boring.

In this particular case it would be very time consuming.

I would recommend some BBC articles. There is not necessarily a very strong &#39;party line&#39; within the BBC, and so what is often represented is the view of a single journalist. As such you get some very impressive articles. However, you also, not surprisingly (since most people in the UK are not revolutionaries), get some rubbish articles.

[Pawn Power]

Easy Chairman. No-one said BBC was free from bias, just that it was the best and most informative news available on TV.

If it is the best on tv, maybe you we should stop watching tv and start getting news from another source.

indymedia (http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml)
Challenge (http://www.plp.org/cd05/cd0105.html)
buzzflash (http://www.buzzflash.com/)

[Zingu]

Why the hell did they name it "Fox News"?

As sneaky as a Fox maybe?

[Purple]

Does anybody know if CNN is biased? it is hard to say, but its the only news channel i get, and would be nice to know as i havent watched it too much. but they doesnt seem to dillude the world, as other channels, that america is the only place on the planet.

[Hiero]

News from a socialist perspective cannot be biased since socialism is the truth. Our analyses of society are correct

What about news from Trotskyites, or anarchist. You say this is to unbiased?

[Dyst]

News from a socialist perspective cannot be biased since socialism is the truth. Our analyses of society are correct.
For some reason I found that statement quite funny. "Socialist news" would most likely be biased for it would target at capitalism as the wrong doer, something which often is the case, but not always. As long as you can say &#39;something&#39;-news it WILL be biased. As the name indicates, it IS biased. And socialism is a point of view that doesn&#39;t apply to everything so in some cases it will be biased (which is a bad thing.) Therefore I think the best news source is the one where you have an amount of socialists and an amount of cappies that represents the real amounts of each as it is in the population as a whole (or local population, depends on type of news source.)

[BlackHandRedStar]

Funny thing, many "neo-conservatives" are former New Left communists.

[Zingu]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 11:50 AM
Does anybody know if CNN is biased? it is hard to say, but its the only news channel i get, and would be nice to know as i havent watched it too much. but they doesnt seem to dillude the world, as other channels, that america is the only place on the planet.
I remember in the attempted coup against Chavez in Venezuela CNN was turning the sitituation around, trying to say that people were rising against the government and they were the majority; they showed all this crap of "government soldiers" shooting at unarmed civilians.
It was the oppisite; the "Uprising" sputtered out with a lack of support, only carried by employers and some military elements. The working class rallied to the government&#39;s side.

American media makes me sick.

[truthaddict11]

I watch Fox News all the time, first how is it "fascist" and how is it any different from any other media outlet? Do you think that CNN or The New York Times are any bit less biased than Fox News? Or is it only that they are "biased" or "fascist" when they present viewpoints that you dont agree with.

[commiecrusader]

I think possibly at the moment Fox is more biased yes, because Cheney has an important role in the U&#036; government and in Fox News. However, if Cheney wasn&#39;t in the government and wasnt looking for a role in the government, then I don&#39;t think Fox would necessarily be any more biased than CNN or whatever.

[cormacobear]

For a drop in the bucket analysis of right wing bias in American news media, I recommend Al Frankens Book "Lies, and the lieing liars who tell them".

Fox news just got approved by the Canadian government to start a news channel here. Which is very sad. But at least there is precedent for prosecuting news agencies for knowingly printing or broadcasting lies presented as news. So hopefully they&#39;ll be bankrupt in a year. :D

The BBC has an obvious capitalist bias, however it is generally accepted around the world as credible. They seem to take this reputation seriously and their editors tend to be far more carefull about what they publish than any American news agency i&#39;m aware of.

Canada currently faces a similair problem to tha in the U.S. with media empires monopoly of information. At least the CBC is still aliveowned by the government it is subject to far stricter guidelines regarding bias than our other media outlets. However it too is being sued along with the other Canadian networks for it&#39;s biased refusal to air, Adbusters commercials. i hope they win.

[cormacobear]

Sorry Moneybags I know you hate being wrong, but we don&#39;t hate Fox and CNN "because they don&#39;t tell us what we want to hear", we hate them because they lie to our faces and call it news. Plenty of news networks told ust the U.S. was invading Iraq and none of us wanted to hear that, but we didn&#39;t speak out against the news we were watching "because they told us something we didn&#39;t want to hear", because it was an unbiased truth.

Fox Lies

March 14: On The Fox Report anchor Shepard Smith reports that Saddam is planning to use flood water as a weapon by blowing up dams and causing severe flood damage.

March 19: Fox anchor Shepard Smith reports that Iraqis are planning to detonate large stores of napalm buried deep below the earth to scorch coalition forces. Fox Military Analyst Major Bob Bevelacqua states that coalition forces will drop a MOAB on Saddam&#39;s bunker [&#33;&#33;] and give him the "Mother of All Sunburns."

March 23: The network begins 2 days of unequivocal assertions that a 100-acre facility discovered by coalition forces at An Najaf is a chemical weapons plant. Much is made about the fact that it was booby trapped. A former UN weapons inspector interviewed on camera over the phone downplays the WMD allegations and says that booby-trapping is common. His points are ignored as unequivocal charges of a chemical weapons facility are made on Fox for yet another day (March 24). Only weeks later is it briefly conceded that the chemicals definitively detected at the facility were pesticides.

March 24: Oliver North reports that the staff at the French embassy in Baghdad are destroying documents. [How could he know this?]

March 24: Fox and Friends. Anchor Juliet Huddy asks Colonel David hunt why coalition forces don&#39;t "blow up" Al Jazeera TV. [The context of the discussion makes it clear that she doesn&#39;t know the difference between Al Jazeera and Iraqi TV&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; Juliet Huddy is a beautiful woman but not very bright.]

March 28: Repeated assertions by Fox News anchors of a red ring around Baghdad in which Republican Guard forces were planning to use chemical weapons on coalition forces. A Fox "Breaking News" flash reports that Iraqi soldiers were seen by coalition forces moving 55-gallon drums almost certainly containing chemical agents.

April 7: Fox, echoing NPR, reports that U.S. forces near Baghdad have discovered a weapons cache of 20 medium-range missiles containing sarin and mustard gas. Initial tests show that the deadly chemicals are not "trace elements."

April 9: The crowd around coalition troops toppling the Saddam statue in Baghdad looks strangely sparse despite the network&#39;s assertions to the contrary. The perspective is always in close and even then there is no mob storming the statue to hit it with their shoes. Just a handful of people. It&#39;s constantly asserted that there&#39;s a huge crowd. [I&#39;m perplexed. Where&#39;s the huge crowd?&#33;]

April 10: Fox "Breaking News" report of weapons-grade plutonium found at Al Tuwaitha. [In the coming weeks this "discovery" was expeditiously shoved down the Memory Hole as well.]

April 10 (2:59 EDT): A report noting with surprise "how little" the Iraqis were celebrating the coalition invasion. [An interesting contradiction of the allegations of widespread celebration just the day before with the toppling of the Saddam statue.]

April 10 (3 p.m. EDT: Reporter Rick Leventhal) Fox "Breaking News" report: A mobile bioweapons lab is found. Video of a tiny tan truck—about the size of the smallest truck that U-Haul rents – which had its cargo bed and fuel tank shot up with bullets after a looter tried to drive it away. Repeated assertions that this is most definitely a "bioweapons" lab. A graphic sequence is shown of a large Winnebago-type vehicle that is massive compared to the tiny truck found. The irony of this escapes the Fox newscasters and defense "experts."

( skipped 15 lies here cause i&#39;m lazy)

June 11: Fox reports a bus blast in Jerusalem caused by Hamas, killing 15 and wounding at least 100. [Looks like the real reason for war according to O&#39;Reilly (Israeli-Palestinian peace) has also disintegrated, but don&#39;t expect O&#39;Reilly to admit it.]

(This is from one page first hit of millions on google)

CNN
During the first week of the war, according to the normally conservative Editor and Publisher magazine, these reporters put out no less than 15 stories that have since proven false. They are:
Saddam Hussein killed or severely wounded on day one (March 20)
Iraqi command “decapitated.” (March 22)
City of Umm Qasr captured (March 22)
Iraqi soldiers refuse to fight – Surrender in droves (March 22)
Iraqi citizens greet Americans as liberators (March 22)
Entire division of 8,000 Iraqi troops surrenders (March 23)
Banned Scud missiles launched against Kuwait (March 23)
Fedayeen militia are few in number and pose no threat (March 23)
City of Basra captured (March 23)
City of Umm Qasr captured for real (March 23)
Captured chemical plant in Najaf produced banned weapons (March 23)
City of Nassiriya captured (March 23)
City of Umm Qasr really really captured for real (March 24)
Major anti-Saddam rebellion occurs in Basra (March 24)
Republican Guard convoy of 1,000 vehicles heading south to engage US troops (March 25)

(this all took ten minutes to find)

[trex]

Did you know that Fox, despite being "fair and blalanced"(by which I mean leaning right), has the highest ratings over any other news channel?

Many people I know who watch Fox laugh as they say &#39;fair and balanced&#39; becuase they know it&#39;s not, but they&#39;re conservative, and nothing makes them madder then the left-wing spin of CNN. Viewers of Fox know how fair it is, they just are entertained by it, too.

[the_godless_communist]

True, FOX has the highest ratings but I have a hunch why. Most newspapers are left-leaning so maybe the conservatives watch FOX and the liberals read the New York times and Washington Post.

[cormacobear]

I can&#39;t think of a single American news source that is left leaning. Centrist perhaps. Since when are American liberals left. Canada&#39;s conservative party would be considered left of the American demacrats. I think to have an accurate perspective of American news, you need to live in a seperate country where at least half your news is from non-american sources. I consider Canada&#39;s Globe and Mail news paper to be centrist and unbiased yet compared to american news papers it dramatically left. While the National Post (whose paper boxes we write fascist post on) would be about the same as the NY Times.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 05:55 PM

You guys ever heard of the FoxNews drinking game?

Sounds like a much better way to get alcohol poisoning and die rather than just getting "fucked."
Good one, that made me chuckle.

[trex]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 08:18 PM
True, FOX has the highest ratings but I have a hunch why. Most newspapers are left-leaning so maybe the conservatives watch FOX and the liberals read the New York times and Washington Post.
this is true. I can&#39;t really think of any right-leaning newspapers like those two, on that scale of importance, either.

People listen to what they want to hear.

[Jersey Devil]

*Brings the thread back from the dead*

I was going to create another thread regarding what people here read/watch for information but then I saw this and decided to bring it back.

Personally I watch PBS (especially the Frontline documentaries), C-Span I and II, the BBC Worldnews via PBS, and another news show called "The Journal" broadcast from Berlin in English via public broadcasting. Sometimes I watch cablenews, but rarely for real information. I see it as more of a joke, as they play gossip news 24 hours a day. I was watching an interview with Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and some other members of the Supreme Court last time and the person giving the interview asked why Scalia objected to video from the Supreme Court cases being sent to news networks, and even he said the same thing, to paraphrase "the cablenews networks will just do what they do with other news and give soundbites without proper context and give a false image of how the Supreme Court operates." This is indeed the truth.

As for publications, I regularly read The New York Times, The Economist, and National Review. Sometimes however, I do browse though Christian Science Monitor, The New Republic, and for local news The Star-Ledger.


this is true. I can&#39;t really think of any right-leaning newspapers like those two, on that scale of importance, either.

Not "newspapers" but two influential conservative magazines would be National Review and The Weekly Standard. Furthermore, I would not call the aforementioned newspapers "liberal", unless you are referring to the editorial pages, for which that label is questionable as well.