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DayGloSunshine
30th December 2004, 02:27
I was talking to my uncle at a family gathering about the situation between China and Tibet. This conversation turned into an argument about China's political stance and my uncle seemed to think that because the communist party is in power that the country is communist. Just because the name communist is used does not mean that communism is the government system in place. Now my question is why does the majority of the american people still take the governments Cold War version and not take the time it read to form a reasonable understanding, even if they do not agree.

Please correct me if I am wrong. Ive read a lot about communism and embrace it, but as for the debating I havent had much practice.

Zingu
30th December 2004, 03:21
Point out the fact that all because the Democratic party is in power makes America a Democracy, vise versa when the Republicans are in power, it does not automatically make America a republic.

Alot of the old Cold War generations just have taken it in since of the Cold War threat when the world was divided into two camps; face it, not a majority of people are intellectual, they are going to take for granted what people tell them, the media always calls such countries "Communist", so to them, they must be "Communist", finer points of detail are left out sadly; thats why we have a terrible stain on the word Communism. <_<

Karl Marx's Camel
30th December 2004, 03:29
I was talking to my uncle at a family gathering about the situation between China and Tibet. This conversation turned into an argument about China&#39;s political stance and my uncle seemed to think that because the communist party is in power that the country is communist. Just because the name communist is used does not mean that communism is the government system in place. Now my question is why does the majority of the american people still take the governments Cold War version and not take the time it read to form a reasonable understanding, even if they do not agree.

Please correct me if I am wrong. Ive read a lot about communism and embrace it, but as for the debating I havent had much practice.



You are absolutely right. What could be called socialism in China died with Mao. Communism was never in practice in the country either, nor did it ever claim to be.



Point out the fact that all because the Democratic party is in power makes America a Democracy, vise versa when the Republicans are in power, it does not automatically make America a republic.



You mean "does not make America a democracy", right?

Saint-Just
30th December 2004, 13:37
If you look at the speeches and works of Deng Xiaoping, Ziang Jiamin and Hu Jintao it is obvious that China has been developing a capitalist economy since 1976.

We must understand theoretically that the difference between capitalism and socialism is not a market economy as opposed to a planned economy ~Xiaoping, Deng., WE SHALL CONCENTRATE ON ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, (September 18 1982), available at:http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/dengxp/vol3/text/c1030.html

China today has a free market economy, one often more ruthless than that of the U.S. My ex-girlfriend&#39;s favourite film, her being from mainland China, was American Pie and American Pie 2, in a communist country that would be absurd.

Here is where you can access some of the works of Deng Xiaoping and Jiang Zemin, and also some of the works of Chairman Mao. What Chairman Mao says is in stark contrast to what the other two say, particularly look at what they say about the economy:
http://app1.chinadaily.com.cn/highlights/party16/leader.html

Djehuti
31st December 2004, 05:44
Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2004, 02:27 AM
his conversation turned into an argument about China&#39;s political stance and my uncle seemed to think that because the communist party is in power that the country is communist.
Tell them that the real name of North Korea is "Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea" and ask them if that name makes North Korea a democratic state.

Or tell them that you can&#39;t be a atheist if your name is John, because John means
"God is Gracious" in hebrew.


Really, such reasoning is silly. You do not need much reflection to realize that.

Dysfunctional_Literate
8th January 2005, 08:43
Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 30 2004, 01:37 PM
If you look at the speeches and works of Deng Xiaoping, Ziang Jiamin and Hu Jintao it is obvious that China has been developing a capitalist economy since 1976.


isn&#39;t that about the same time Nixon visited?