MY STREET UNDER SIEGE!!

[IrishRepublican]

My house is under siege as is my street we are not aloud to leave our homes..

Why do you ask?
Because secterian parades are aloud to march into catholic areas playing their secterian music to intimadate catholics and to show their superiority.. i shall be updating this threads when somthing happends if you have any questions to ask just ask.

[liderDeFARC]

what ?

[IrishRepublican]

We Broke the curfew and we roited the police reposended with water connons the roiting is still going on

[revolutionary spirit]

fuckin' peelers

[IrishRepublican]

Well things have calmed but the protestant are hurling petrol bombs and pipe bombs over the peace line and the RUC (Now Renamed PSNI) are not doing anything to protect the catholic community.

[IrishRepublican]

Ok, things seem calm now but there is unease

[tyronelad]

why don't you move?

that's the thing i don't understand about the interface areas- if catholics or protestants are living under constant attack then they should move to a unionist/nationalist/foreign area away from the trouble. sure people should not be made leave there homes, but surely your life and safety means more than where you live. both communities in interface areas be used by politicans- the holy cross dispute was a disgrace- instead of SF saying 'that's wile, you shouyld never expose your children to that' they think 'how can we exploit this to our advantage... i know; march innocent girls through a nightmare so we can say how bad the other side is...'

i say all decent people should be told they should leave the areas, after they do so remove the peacelines so the hardlads on both sides can battle it out, it has taken the republic nearly 80 years to mend akll the divisions after the civil war- and those two fractions arfe of the same religion and nationality!! i say it will be at least 200 years before peace is any type of reality in belfast.

[Red Revolution]

The Royal Ulster Constabulary are basicly a division of the British police, its only doing what TB tells it to do.
I may be English but I'm against the British in northern Ireland.

Keep fighting man, I think change is around the corner.

[IrishRepublican]

Why should we have to move?
When im out enough i'll fight for i cannot fail.

[revolutionary spirit]

yeah why the fuck should they move?It's a matter of principle,it ain't like our lads came in and threw people of their land and lived on it instead.

Same for huns,if they are being attacked by fenians they shouldn't be forced to move,only way you can have a united ireland is if u stand your neighbours.

[IrishRepublican]

i couldnt have said it better myself

[Reuben]

The orange men are a bunch of fuckers comparable in some ways to the Ku Klux Klan. I am ashamed that my government felt it legitimate to collectively punish the catholic population in the way described. and for what. For simply refusing to leave their homeland and abandon their Irish identity



(Edited by Reuben at 9:00 am on June 30, 2002)

[The Ax]

Hey,
This is a very unfortuanate war(or clash) that points out all the divisions that religion create.

The Ax

[revolutionary spirit]

The true nature of the conflict is not about catholic and protestant but of a class war dating back 100's of years.

[Reuben]

lsnt it also an ethnic conflict between the Scoish colonists and the Irish.

[revolutionary spirit]

Maybe but i think the media is trying to say what the whole conflict is about,protestants and catholics hating each other.People like Wolfe Tone and Connolly are never mentioned.A religious divide has been caused but it's roots still remain a class issue.

[liderDeFARC]

wow if i only knew what you guys were talking about....

[pastradamus]

the protestant Vs caothlic thing is just an excuse for more fighting.Its not religious differences that seperate us & them,but its the fact that they opressed us for the last 800 years.
And who's to blame for this shit? that fat **** henry VIII,I wish i cud turn the clock back a few hundread years and kill him,sure if it wasnt him sum other guy wud have attacked ireland.But that fat **** just started the whole protestant Vs Caothlic thing.

But its never been bout that,many protestants have fought for Irelands freedom,e.g wolfe tone

[Red Revolution]

Henry VIII actually had very little blame in the northern Ireland struggle. Until 1922 Britain controlled ALL of Ireland.

[tyronelad]

not all orangemen are bad- my neighbour is one, though he only marches in Donegal (all the hardlads would never dare cross the border). Many orange marchers take place in Wales and pass of peacefully- although it doesn't carry the same tension as ones in the north.
theres an orange march in my local town tonite- the bands usually stop outside the catholic church and beat thier drums for all they are worth.... if only they knew king billy was fighting for the pope

[Mazdak]

AS the ax pointed out, this is why religion should be of no concern to the government. It diveds people, both here, and in the middle east.

[Conghaileach]

The Catholic vs. Protestant angle is a lie used by the burgeoisie to keep Catholic and Protestant workers divided. Most people don't even realise the number of Jews, Atheists, Muslims etc etc who live in the Occupied Six Counties.

btw, where do you live IrishRepublican? It sounds like around the Springfield area, and I live nearby.

[BOZG]

Maybe everyone could take their heads out of their asses and see that religion and nationalism are evils which should be destroyed.

[pastradamus]

Maybe u should take ur head outta ur arse! religion dosent divide people. Ethnic differences divide people.
e.g paraguay Vs bolivia.Both are christian countries at the time the war started did this prevent it from happening?

[peaccenicked]

Aggression divides people. Orange fascism is out to destroy the peace process.

[BenJammin]

Quote from The Ax:

Hey,
This is a very unfortuanate war(or clash) that points out all the divisions that religion create.

The Ax


Don't be so general, you'll never see a Buddhist throwing a petro bomb :) Only certain religions have been aggressors, most have stayed tame and low-key, causing very little trouble over the millenia :D

[Conghaileach]

Religion, Ethnicity, Race, Sex... they're all used to divide the workers.

[Reuben]

(Edited by Reuben at 5:04 pm on July 3, 2002)

[revolutionary spirit]

I'm just goint to echo that this is a class war.Not all Catholics want to return to the Republic such as the middle catholic class.Not all protestants wish to stay with the UK.Wolfe Tone in the past but there has been many since his day and are still here today.Many a good protestant died for the 26 county Republic.It's the old Roman tatic of ''Divide and Rule''.Bastards!

[BOZG]

Religion doesn't divide people

Have you looked at N Ireland for the past 80 years? Have you looked at what's happening in India now?

Same ethnic background, different religion.

[pastradamus]

Yeah but India is a seperate issue,the hindu's have a long history of being attacked by the persians,saracens ect... from the west.

It started off by showing resistance to the invaders,then it was transformed into a religious issue afterwards.Both are now locking horns.