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[Red Revolution]

All leftists using this forum are all fighting for the same cause. Here we have people from all the corners of the earth.

Why dont we act!

Words that do not match deeds are unimportant
- Ernesto 'Che' Guevara

[Revolution Hero]

Waiting for the revolutionary situation.

[liderDeFARC]

ahh, but we have Argentina. Perfect place time and "climate" for a revolution. I want to go there this summer, but im underage and so i have to go with somebody else and nobody wants to go with me from my fam. so i guess it wont be happening.

[Nickademus]

Quote: from Red Revolution on 10:13 pm on June 27, 2002
All leftists using this forum are all fighting for the same cause. Here we have people from all the corners of the earth.

Why dont we act!

Words that do not match deeds are unimportant
- Ernesto 'Che' Guevara


some of us are acting, in the way we feel is currently appropriate.

[Red Revolution]

Many African countries have a good situation for a revolution most noticably Zimbabwe. The main problem is starting up a rebel faction. Mabye we can put Che's guerrilia tactics to good use?

[Dhul Fiqar]

Unfortunately, we are not all in agreement over what to do, when to do it, how to do it or even WHY to do it! :(

--- G. Raven

[Engel866]

im defintely willing to fight there, outside his palace hes powerless, just hijack his convoys and dig up the ammo in the middle of nowhere ,plently of area to do raids, but, haha im 13 i can't

[Engel866]

im defintely willing to fight there, outside his palace hes powerless, just hijack his convoys and dig up the ammo in the middle of nowhere ,plently of area to do raids, but, haha im 13 i can't

[ILoveShrub]

Personally I'm waiting for america to enter another sort of vietnam. Currently in america our rights and liberties are stolen daily. This makes the American Government stronger.But they can only go so far. When the America peolpe get fed up with it. My guess is within roughly ten years or so. The time will be ripe. Because America with have to wage war on two fronts, On its own people and on us.Divide and Conquer . It is our only chance. for revolution anywhere in the world without(let's hope) U.S. interference or at least strong interference. So our front right now is to support any civil liberities movement.

[Erazer]

Israel is in perfect climate for revolution, i am ready to fight.

we need to gather people from the arab countries to fight the religion there also.

[Red Revolution]

I would have thought that many palestineians would be willing to fight for a revolution in the region? The problem they have is that they need to be organized into one rather than lone guns. Also Israel has quite a powerful military+US backing.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Israel systematically splinters any Palestinian movements, and of course their incredibly technically superior army is hard to face in any way.

Basically, the Great Satan needs to fall before the Lesser Satan.

--- G. Raven

[jimr]

This all seems abit odd to me. As i really don't think you can organise any sort of revolution over the internet. However I believe that civil war will soon come to Venezuela its enevitable. Chavez is doing all he can with his current powers but a country needs to go through a period of dictatorship to stabilise the country and institue social reforms without any hassle from private sectors or business elitists. Defending Venezuela and establishing a true socialist state on main land South America could lead to large scale revolution through all of that continant.

At the moment my own goals are to study Social politics at university and improve my knowledge to be ready to act when the time comes. The revolution will need a spark, it will need a catalyst to show the masses of the world the true disgusting form of the current regimes.

[kingbee]

i agree- it cant be done over the internet. human, not digital, contact must be had.
not everywhere wants revolution- its a good idea saying lets go and start in say bhutan, but there is always going 2 be opposition.
israel? zimbabwe? theyre possibly the hardest places- mugabes thugs, the mossad, american support- theres pretty slim chance.
its all very nice talking bout it- but to be honest, this way isnt the way to start it, no offence meant 2 anyone

[RGacky3]

There are many Communist/socialist organisations that don't do anything, they just sort of........exist. What we need to do comrads is spread propaganda, let people know what communism really is. Then we will have the support opf the people, who will either vote communist, or a revolution will be organized. but first propeganada. (propaganda is not a negative term unless its FALSE propaganda)

[sypher]

I agree with R. Gacky

I can start the propaganda at my school in september but I'd like to find a great pamphlet. something easy to understand but is very deep. something that lets them know that the system the believe in is corupt but dosen't attack them. is there anything you can show me like that?

I think the Internet is very usefull in the revolution. The internet is the perfect place to educate the public. We just need to find better ways to get to everyone...is it possable to get a banner ad that shows some facts that are pro Socialist and anti capitalist?

[RGacky3]

Quote: from sypher on 7:31 pm on July 2, 2002
I agree with R. Gacky

I can start the propaganda at my school in september but I'd like to find a great pamphlet. something easy to understand but is very deep. something that lets them know that the system the believe in is corupt but dosen't attack them. is there anything you can show me like that?

I think the Internet is very usefull in the revolution. The internet is the perfect place to educate the public. We just need to find better ways to get to everyone...is it possable to get a banner ad that shows some facts that are pro Socialist and anti capitalist?

I've been looking around for some, most of the literature I find is long and complicated, Can any one suggest something?

[AladdinSane]

Quote: from RGacky3 on 8:36 am on July 3, 2002

Quote: from sypher on 7:31 pm on July 2, 2002
I agree with R. Gacky

I can start the propaganda at my school in september but I'd like to find a great pamphlet. something easy to understand but is very d
eep. something that lets them know that the system the believe in is corupt but dosen't attack them. is there anything you can show me like that?

I think the Internet is very usefull in the revolution. The internet is the perfect place to educate the public. We just need to find better ways to get to everyone...is it possable to get a banner ad that shows some facts that are pro Socialist and anti capitalist?

I've been looking around for some, most of the literature I find is long and complicated, Can any one suggest something?

Yeah, that stuff is pretty complicated, but I'll make propaganda films!!! Weeeeee! Okay, seriously, information (NOT propaganda, that's a dirty word) should be spread presenting a different perspective on capitalism- also, I find that the term Marxist/Marxism strikes better with people than communist/communism, as those terms have carried a bad legacy in the US.

[Kilian]

Could you tell more about the situation in Venezuela. I know little about it

[Kilian]

I have been thinking and came up with an idea of an organization which would be funded by private donations and rock concerts. I think bands like ratm would join the revolution . with this money we could pay for the travels to countries like Indonesia and Argentina where we could teach the workers about communism and revolution.We should also use the net to tell the truth to people in Europe, America and other continents as well. And eventually we could unite the workers of the world against their oppressors. This is not just talk I'm serious. Tell me what do you think of my idea

[Revolution Hero]

Talks, talks and nothing more. Go and act , you will be killed. I see you are all smart ones here. CIA will be after you and they will surrender you like they have surrendered Che in Bolivia.
We better wait for the right moment, when all people will act, not just few revolutionary romantics.

[Kilian]

if you think like that revolution hero your wait will be quite long.
How long can we let injustice happen!? We must act.

[Revolution Hero]

You are right. We have to act, but still using different methods, not the violent ones. We should spread propaganda and educate the masses.
Believe me the time will come, just be patient. If you take Kalashnikov together with some of your followers now, your mission will fail.
We have to work and wait for the moment to start with.

(Edited by Revolution Hero at 9:04 pm on July 3, 2002)

[Lardlad95]

No Revolution Hero we should spread knowledge not propaganda.

PRopaganda is evil in all forms we aren't trying brainwash people.

People need to think for themselves. When they see that we are right then its time.

[Kilian]

I didn't speak about guns. Lack of education creates oppression. Guns should only be used if it is absolutely necessary. If we educate peole they realize that they don't have to stand the oppression. If CIA wants to fight against education I don't think rest of the world will let that happen. We must act.

[j]

sypher-a pro socialist ad bannder would be a really good idea. Anyone know how to go about setting one up? How much do you think it would cost?

Also, spreading information is the only way to make people realize that they do not have to live in these conditions. This little girl got shot over the weekend on my street in what was apparently gang crossfire. People need to know that things like this can be prevented if we only had true EQUALITY OF RESOURCES!!!!!! The family is not stressed out over financial matters. The family doesn't fret over medical costs. Mental illness is treated. People don't have to hustle because that is the only way they can make money. If wealth were equally distributed then all this shit would end!!!!!! This is the type of stuff that people need to hear!!!!!

j

[Red Revolution]

Educating people definately is important. After all a revolution cant succed unless the people of the area want it and support it. Remember...

...The guerrilla fighter needs full help from the people of the area. This is an indispensable condition. . - Ernesto Che Guevara

[antieverything]

Remember, propaganda doesn't have to be lies...it is just something that supports a certain cause.

Alot of you are talking about waiting for the right time...THERE IS NO WRONG TIME. The revolution will not be fought with guns but with education. It will be fought in the streets by us organizing...get involved in your community and stop fantasizing about taking up arms cuz we all know that isn't going to do shit.

[Revolution Hero]

Peaceful revolution will not bring us anything either. Revolution has to protect itself and you will not avoid the civil war. Still there is the need to use violent means of coming into power.
If you are all peaceful, counter - revolution will kick you out of the governing.